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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 17-Dec-11 09:26:11
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By way of celebrating Virgin Media's 100Mb rollout how about joining this speed wave....if you dare!!

SPEED WAVE
Standard User djfunkdup
(committed) Sat 17-Dec-11 10:21:25
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82.23 Mb/s 5.99 Mb/s done smile

That result is without triple firewalls disabled.... results are usually slightly higher when tested with security disabled....

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(deleted) Sat 17-Dec-11 11:39:28
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Joined though not logged in me with the 5ms ping smile

vinnywave

No idea why its says hove, im based in kent!

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Standard User djfunkdup
(committed) Sat 17-Dec-11 11:44:49
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Could you do me a favour please m8 and do a test to the Paris or Rotterdam sever

been some talk on a different forum/website that the london server has been knackered last couple of weeks

cheers smile


edit :Lol can i ask why you did a BT speed test on this speedwave ? .lol i thought the whole point of this speedwave was to map VIRGINMEDIA 100Mbps connections..now this speedwave is pointless..

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(deleted) Sat 17-Dec-11 12:12:22
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lol sorry saw other isp's had taken part frown
Standard User djfunkdup
(committed) Sat 17-Dec-11 12:16:41
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lol it's kool man it's not my speed wave smile and yea i also noticed that smile

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(deleted) Sun 18-Dec-11 15:37:00
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Good to see folk joining the wave. It's OK for non-Virgin testers to join. We all get to see various ISPs performing in one place.

Interesting to see VM pings much higher than most others. This probably indicates that although VM is getting consistently high speeds, the network is stretched and is probably not that good for gaming in some cases.

Any other observations?

Testing with speedtest.net is probably better than thinkbroadband. TBB is very inconsistent. I always use speedtest.net London / NAMESCO server. .

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Standard User djfunkdup
(committed) Sun 18-Dec-11 16:42:07
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lol,i can see where you are coming from,but the whole point of a speedwave is to map the performance of a single connection,or to map the performance of multiple connections all from the same ISP and on the same product (package).yes you can have more than one person adding information to the speedwave.but if they are from a different ISP then the speedwave is pointless,further more if you have people using the same ISP adding information but they are on a different product as the person starting the speedwave this also makes the speedwave pointless..

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Sun 18-Dec-11 16:49:29
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In reply to a post by roughbeast:
Testing with speedtest.net is probably better than thinkbroadband. TBB is very inconsistent. I always use speedtest.net London / NAMESCO server. .


Perhaps it shows the VM to TBB link is inconsistent, sometimes very full, sometimes not, like the high pings on the wave.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 18-Dec-11 23:08:02
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Also the algorithm used by ookla has a tendency to show a good result even when a link is congested

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Mon 19-Dec-11 12:44:37
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You would have thought after all this time the TBB and VM could have arranged for a better connection given that accurate results are in everybody's best interest.

I am assuming, of course, that accurate VM stats are in TBB's best interest.

Re speedtest.net. I guess if the OOKLA's algorithm shows everybody off at their best, that is at least a level playing field for all ISPs.
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(staff) Mon 19-Dec-11 12:54:07
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Ookla can suffer from peering issues too, and often it is harder or impossible to get feedback, as least with us Seb and John can investigate the network, and has shown in the past that by alterating routing things can be improved on a temporary basis.

Virgin is more than welcome to put some private peering in place, the odd thing is that it does not affect all Virgin users equally, i.e. we do see people getting good speeds.

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Standard User Bobby_Valentino
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 19-Dec-11 13:50:16
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Ookla can suffer from peering issues too, and often it is harder or impossible to get feedback, as least with us Seb and John can investigate the network, and has shown in the past that by alterating routing things can be improved on a temporary basis.

Virgin is more than welcome to put some private peering in place, the odd thing is that it does not affect all Virgin users equally, i.e. we do see people getting good speeds.

Iv also noticed thar flash based speed tests arnt as accurate has java based tests.

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 19-Dec-11 19:36:13
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Iv also noticed thar flash based speed tests arnt as accurate has java based tests.


It might depend who programs the flash test, I have no problems with this flash one for example:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/broadband.html

If people are getting different speeds on the TBB Flash and Java testers that shows an issue either with the link from TBB to their ISP, or from their ISP's border routers to the customer.

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 19-Dec-11 19:40:34
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Also the algorithm used by ookla has a tendency to show a good result even when a link is congested


Yes that's interesting. I had a chance to play in the US last month (family over there). They subscribe to Time Warner Cable's highest speed service - 50mbps download, 5mbps upload.

Using a wired connection to their ISP required all in one box (same idea as VM) they achieve 50mbps download and 5mbps upload from the local speed tester (ookla powered) at Time Warner, and using one about 500 miles away from a big competitor Comcast. Almost all the independent testers were pretty awful around 10mbps max!! (I didn't try thinkbroadband, as generally the UK connectivity is slow, I'd anticipate 5mbps on a good day).

Wireless (N with WPA2) was always poor, only 30mbps download, and kept stuttering - inSSIDer showed lots of local networks but all low enough they shouldn't affect it. I think its a really poor wifi unit. The stuttering showed up browsing on phones (Android and/or iPhone) and iPads, and on desktop PC showed in "outlook as lost connection" messages. Annoying.

But that is the max they can get, their entire housing estate (neighborhood) can't get DSL, too far from the CO (exchange) and so Time Warner have a captive market!

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
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(staff) Mon 19-Dec-11 21:13:03
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Many are not aware of the lack of choice for most US residential customers and often the same in Europe particularly with the new fibre solutions.

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 19-Dec-11 22:42:06
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Agreed; I work with people across europe. Mostly similar as US, where distance means DSL would be 128kbps at best :-/ Some however have multiple providers over cable-tv coax; something VM should offer. (e.g. more "pro services" with fixed IP etc).

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
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