Openreach line checker 80-20

I believe the openreach line checker is due to change next sunday (29th jan) to reflect the 80 - 20 speeds. Would be interesting if people in enabled fttc areas could post line check results before and after the change...

Edited by Ripley (Sun 22-Jan-12 23:02:18)

Taken 23/01/2012 @ 00:20

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 33.4Mbps and upstream line speed of 12.3Mbps.

Taken 23/01/2012 @ 06:52

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 33.3Mbps and upstream line speed of 11.9Mbps.

Taken at 23/01/2012 at 06:56

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 36Mbps and upstream line speed of 12.9Mbps.

Taken at 23/01/2012 at 08:48

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30Mbps and upstream line speed of 5.7Mbps.

It has moved from 24Mbps downstream within the last 2 weeks, so may have been updated already.

I will check again after 29th.

EDIT:
FYI, it moved from 14.6Mbps downstream to 24Mbps a few days after the switch to the 17a profile at the end of October.

Edited by deleted (Mon 23-Jan-12 08:53:45)

You entered: 01********* (XXXXXXXX telephone exchange)

Broadband speed*:30.5Mbps download (12.1Mbps upload)


I get that for both my enabled line and the non-enabled voice only line. Current sync ... 38716 and speeds around 36Mbps

Taken 23/01/12 @ 10:00

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 35.4Mbps and upstream line speed of 13.6Mbps.

I think you've unfortunately asked the wrong question.

The estimator has already been updated for 17a, just capped at 40Mbps. All the replies so far are under 40Mbps, even though they may be connecting at that speed - like me on a 28.9 estimate, but my upstream estimate is now above 11Mbps whereas before the estimator change it was well below 10Mbps.

In my opinion the people who have replied so far aren't going to see a further change. Only those with a 40Mbps estimate will.

What anyone connecting at 40Mbps, whatever their estimate, will see is an increase in actual speed. Though maybe not until they upgrade, if that is how their ISP approaches the matter.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In my opinion the people who have replied so far aren't going to see a further change. Only those with a 40Mbps estimate will.

I don't believe so, I'm around 200m from the cabinet and the modem reports max speed of over 100Mb. Also have friends who live within 50m of Cabinet and they get downstream results all under 40Mb on the checker.

I think everyone's speed on the checker will rise next weekend.

You're correct.

I think BT has done something very odd with the checker.

Under the 8c profile I was "estimated" at 33.5 down and 8 up.

I have constantly got 40/10 with max obtainable speeds at 50 down and 25 up.

Under 17 a the "estimated" figures are 33.5 down and 14 up.

I still am hitting the 40/10 cap with max obtainable speeds at 92 down and 32 up

I am about 100 meters from the cab and the line checker looks like they are still estimating the same on the downstream and a small increase on the upload.

The trouble is that people may be making purchasing descions on having reliable figures and although BT are showving very conservative numbers it isn't helping anybody when people get hooked up only to find they were way off.

The cost of getting reliable figures per line is probably too high.

The pressure is on to under estimate, after five years of press pressure over the ADSL estimates that were generally over generous for many people.

Maybe everyone is correct.

The checkers are so variable, that without precise inside information it is hard to say anything for sure.

Well my actual rates are better than estimated and the BT guy said I could get 140/30 max so I'm gonna get 80Mb without a doubt as I'm maxing it out at 40Mb.

My current estimate is exactly 40Mb.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 10.9Mbps.

Not so. My estimate is 30, I sync at max and get 36-37 throughput (39 on the BT Beta test).

The last technician visit showed hi 60s and my modem indicates around 66 so I would hope that the checker will rise. Having checked my number and that of several neighbours - all closer than me including one with a line length of around 50m, they are all showing 30.5 down but upstream from 12.1 and up as the line gets shorter.

There are differences between the BT Residential and BT Business checkers. The Res' gives an upstream max of 10Mbps for the lines around here whereas Bus' gives 12.1 and I did find one with a downstream differences too

Taken 12:11 23/01/2012

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 17.8Mbps and upstream line speed of 3.7Mbps.

Currently getting 33Mb down and 5.5Mb up

23/01/12

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 14.6Mbps.

My d-side cable length is 89m. I'm expecting to get the full 80. I'll let you know soon as I'm due to go on the trial in the next couple of weeks

Interestingly, i also get a full 40Mb estimate, yet I won't see anything near 80. Maximum attainable is currently sitting at around 59.

Edit: actually its probably just my 17a estimate capped to 40Mb.

Edited by reddev86 (Mon 23-Jan-12 12:51:11)

BT Infinity Fibre optic broadbandYou can get fibre optic broadband with speeds of up to 40Mb now.

30.9Mb download
10.0Mb upload


It came up with this but could do as unlocked modem says.

Line Status Help



Downstream Upstream
Attainable rate (kbit/s) 69460 23928
SNR margin (dB) 14.6 29.8
Line attenuation (dB) 0 0
Output power (dBmV) 12.4 4.4


Goes at full speed. 38.5 normally on speedtest.

modem say Line rate (kbit/s) 39998 1999 0

Hi there,

Points to note. Although Openreach will be updating their checkers, Openreach customers may cap their line check results to you until they are prepared for the 80/20 product varients. You may see a slight jump but not more than 40Mbps advertised for now. Worth considering if you are trying to get a view of the uplift for everyone in the short term.

Regarding speed estimates. These are usually conservative as they consider what the eventual uptake of FTTC will be in the cab and the impact of cross-talk. This is typically why speeds experienced are higher than advertised.

Thanks,
Brian

Today 23/1/12

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 36.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 14.1Mbps.

23/01/2012

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 23.5Mbps and upstream line speed of 8.6Mbps.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I think you've unfortunately asked the wrong question.

The estimator has already been updated for 17a, just capped at 40Mbps. All the replies so far are under 40Mbps, even though they may be connecting at that speed - like me on a 28.9 estimate, but my upstream estimate is now above 11Mbps whereas before the estimator change it was well below 10Mbps.

In my opinion the people who have replied so far aren't going to see a further change. Only those with a 40Mbps estimate will.

What anyone connecting at 40Mbps, whatever their estimate, will see is an increase in actual speed. Though maybe not until they upgrade, if that is how their ISP approaches the matter.

We will see at the weekend what happens. I am assuming the line checker reports the current stats from a database that contains the uplift ratio from the pcp to postcode spreadsheet.Maybe after sunday there will simply be a different uplift ratio which openreach have formulated.

Hi Brian,

So would that mean using an ISP's checker the results may be capped to 40 but usings the BT Wholesale checker you may see an upcapped result?

before:-

Sorry, you're not currently able to get BT Infinity. This may be because your area has not been enabled yet, or your individual line does not support super-fast broadband. Register your interest and we'll let you know if this changes.

and i'm sure after the 29th the result will be:-

.... the same

23/01/2012 @ 2352 hours.

Using my neighbours number (with his consent) as my line is LLU'd.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 12.6Mbps.

In reply to a post by 5km:

before:-

Sorry, you're not currently able to get BT Infinity. This may be because your area has not been enabled yet, or your individual line does not support super-fast broadband. Register your interest and we'll let you know if this changes.

and i'm sure after the 29th the result will be:-

.... the same

???
That's the BT Retail checker, which doesn't display estimates below 15Mbps, as that's the minimum for Infinity. I assume at some stage you have tried the BT Wholesale one, which is what all the other quotes are from?

There is FTTC available from BT Broadband for Openreach estimates as low as 5Mbps - usually producing a much higher actual. It just isn't called Infinity. ADSL24 and Aquiss also have customers on the 5Mbps+ product. Possibly other ISPs also do by now.

Doesn't matter which checker I use.

BT are not enabling the cabinet I connect to. Stupid city centre conservation area (even though it's a new build).

Taken 24/01/12 @ 00:50 for 2 lines:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 35.2Mbps and upstream line speed of 13.3Mbps.

Hi Ripley,

I would suggest that you will see the capped result from BT Wholesale for now. As most ISPs user their checker, the cap will be passed through.

Cheers,
Brian

In reply to a post by 5km:

Doesn't matter which checker I use.

BT are not enabling the cabinet I connect to. Stupid city centre conservation area (even though it's a new build).

BT are not OR most likely, the local authority will not allow them to!

Yes you can thank Harigay and StAlbans Councils for OR's cold feet when it concerns conservation areas.

They made BT move all the Fibre cabinet several feet and made them put the Fibre and Normal phone cabs in custom made blackcabs with ornate bits.

Apparently cost BT over £250,000 just to do that.

So getting burnt that early has made them very wary.

and ultimately, who pays? You, me, and every other user.

BT try to get it right and reasonable and do discuss them cabinets with the local authorities first but some LAs are just awkward.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 15Mbps.

I'm on Infinity and according to the engineer installing get a 40/10 sync. I'm interested to see what the Openreach estimator will be giving me when it's upped next week.

Taken 24/01/2012 @ 11:30

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 19.4Mbps and upstream line speed of 4.2Mbps.

Edited by deleted (Tue 24-Jan-12 11:31:54)

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 37.5Mbps and upstream line speed of 14.6Mbps.

My max attainable last time i looked was 132008kbps down 35734kbps up

My line currently states:

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 28.2Mbps and upstream line speed of 11.7Mbps.

More interesting perhaps will be seeing what happens to some friends who currently have:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 15Mbps.

I have had fibre on two lines:

Line 1 (650 metres):
----
8C Profile, mid 2011:
Original estimates: 30.1 Down, 6.1 Up.
Actual: 36 Down, 10 Up.
----
17A Profile, from Nov 2011:
Current estimates: 30.1 Down, 11.3 Up.
Actual: 40 Down, 10 Up
Modem's "Max Attainable": 65 Down, 15 Up.
----

Line 2 (450 metres):
----
17A Profile:
Current estimates: 29.2 Down, 11.9 Up.
Actual: 40 Down, 10 Up.
JDSU "Max Attainable": 85 Down, 25 Up.
Modem's "Max Attainable": 90 Down, 25 Up.
----

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed between 30.6 to 40 Mbps and upstream line speed between 12.6 to 15 Mbps.

although the cabinet is right outside my bedroom window.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 28.9Mbps and upstream line speed of 11.5Mbps.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40 Mbps and upstream line speed of 15 Mbps.

Cabinet so close you can almost touch it lol

The 20Mbit upload is showing but nothing more than 40Mbit for the download.

Looks like the update is in progress.

Our estimate has upped from 32.2 to 40 and upstream from 12.6 to 20 so far.

It seems the download speeds have been capped to 40 meg. Here are the before and after results on the line i was watching.

For Telephone Number 012464106** on Exchange DRONFIELD

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 31.3Mbps and upstream line speed of 11.7Mbps.
Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 15.7Mbps.

As reported elsewhere, a change has occurred.

Taken 28/01/2012 @ 21:57

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Mine has changed from 23.5/10.5 to 34.6/5.9. The actual sync speed I've had for months is 40/10, with the modem showing an attainable 55/18.

Edited by deleted (Sat 28-Jan-12 22:17:05)

My predicted speed has gone from 32.7/? to 40/18

My exchange has not reached RFS yet. Indeed the cab still hasn't appeared......

Edited by deleted (Sat 28-Jan-12 23:18:24)

The Openreach data has now been updated to show the 17a rates (my line now shows
20 up and 77.1 down) however it seems BT Wholesale have, for the moment, left the downstream cap on at 40Meg.

80/20 is not a product Wholesale actually offer at the moment outside of the ISP trials. It'll probably change when they're ready to release the 80/20 to the masses.

Edited by deleted (Sat 28-Jan-12 23:39:59)

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

I have had fibre on two lines:

Line 1 (650 metres):
----
8C Profile, mid 2011:
Original estimates: 30.1 Down, 6.1 Up.
Actual: 36 Down, 10 Up.
----
17A Profile, from Nov 2011:
Current estimates: 30.1 Down, 11.3 Up.
Actual: 40 Down, 10 Up
Modem's "Max Attainable": 65 Down, 15 Up.
----

New estimate: 40 Down, 10.9 up (Note this upstream estimate went down!)

Line 2 (450 metres):
----
17A Profile:
Current estimates: 29.2 Down, 11.9 Up.
Actual: 40 Down, 10 Up.
JDSU "Max Attainable": 85 Down, 25 Up.
Modem's "Max Attainable": 90 Down, 25 Up.
----

New estimate: 40 Down, 18 up (and this upstream estimate went up).

Where do you get the Openreach estimates?

You need to work for an ISP mate.

Taken 28/01/2012 @ 23:40

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 22.6Mbps and upstream line speed of 5.4Mbps.

I was not expecting much to change. I've had IP profile of 26520 (attainable = 26976) DOWN and 2000 (attainable = 6294) UP, so the checker does seem to be getting closer.

Why isn't the checker showing speeds above 40mbps for those lines that are capable of achieving above 40-80mbps speeds?

Looks like they capped the down stream but not the upstream

In reply to a post by Bobby_Valentino:

Why isn't the checker showing speeds above 40mbps for those lines that are capable of achieving above 40-80mbps speeds?

See my previous post.

mine was showing downstream of 22.5, the other day actual was 27mb until the 27th jan when it shot up to 37mb, now the checker shows

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre
technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have
received downstream line speed of 29.5Mbps and upstream line speed of
5.8Mbps.

if you go to link below and type in you phone number

http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/pls/adsl/ADSLChecker.Te...

This was mine before the update:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 29.9Mbps and upstream line speed of 12.1Mbps.

.....and now:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps

In reply to a post by lee111s:

The Openreach data has now been updated to show the 17a rates (my line now shows
20 up and 77.1 down) however it seems BT Wholesale have, for the moment, left the downstream cap on at 40Meg.

80/20 is not a product Wholesale actually offer at the moment outside of the ISP trials. It'll probably change when they're ready to release the 80/20 to the masses.

Who's your ISP? If I asked my ISP for the BTWholesale estimates, do you reckon they would cascade this to me?

In reply to a post by lee111s:

In reply to a post by Bobby_Valentino:

Why isn't the checker showing speeds above 40mbps for those lines that are capable of achieving above 40-80mbps speeds?

See my previous post.

Cheers.

In reply to a post by Bobby_Valentino:

In reply to a post by lee111s:

The Openreach data has now been updated to show the 17a rates (my line now shows
20 up and 77.1 down) however it seems BT Wholesale have, for the moment, left the downstream cap on at 40Meg.

80/20 is not a product Wholesale actually offer at the moment outside of the ISP trials. It'll probably change when they're ready to release the 80/20 to the masses.

Who's your ISP? If I asked my ISP for the BTWholesale estimates, do you reckon they would cascade this to me?

I work for an ISP so have access to Openreach data for our customers lines. The BT Wholesale data is what you'll be given by your ISP until BT Wholesale and ISP's roll out the 80/20 variant.

It makes no odds really knowing what you'll get. You'll get it anyway at some point. No idea on when it'll be rolled out...I don't think trials have been going on for very long so it could be much later in the year.

So I was wrong early in the thread, as shown by other posts since the change, and mine earlier in this thread:-

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 28.9Mbps and upstream line speed of 11.5Mbps.

compared with now

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 13.2Mbps.

What I don't understand is why there was the interim jump in the upstream from its original 6.4Mbps ?

In reply to a post by Johnct:

if you go to link below and type in you phone number

http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/pls/adsl/ADSLChecker.Te...

That's the BT Wholesale one - which is capping at 40Mbps. I wondered how to get to Openreach's specifically.

In reply to a post by Alnath:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 37.5Mbps and upstream line speed of 14.6Mbps.

My max attainable last time i looked was 132008kbps down 35734kbps up

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Same with mine

Before install

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30.3Mbps and upstream line speed of 7.1Mbps.

Around time when 17a activated I think?

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30.3Mbps and upstream line speed of 11.9Mbps.

And now

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 18Mbps.

Now Reporting 40 down 20 up ... on my current VDSL line, a PSTN and a couple of others very close by.

As others have said, it looks as if BT have updated the upload speeds but let the download ones at a max of 40MB

The line which previously estimated

downstream line speed of 28.2Mbps and upstream line speed of 11.7Mbps.

now says

downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 15.7Mbps.

and the one which said

downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 15Mbps.

now states:

downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps

How do I check if my cabinet will be enabled when my exchange goes live in march?

The BT checker says nothing about fibre but the talktalk fibre checks says I will be able to get 23mb download and 2mb upload?

Which one is correct and how can I get my postal code checked???

Thanks.

before

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 33.3Mbps and upstream line speed of 11.9Mbps.

After

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 18Mbps.

Max Attainable was 140/30

Was 31.2/12.1, now 40/20.

In reply to a post by Alex1M6:

... how can I get my postal code checked???

Post it here .

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by Alex1M6:

... how can I get my postal code checked???

Post it here .

I have private messaged it you ( :

Was 40/15 now 40/20

Mine is still showing a downstream line speed of 30Mbps and upstream line speed of 5.7Mbps.

It changed from 24Mbps downstream around 2 weeks ago, & was only 14.6Mbps downstream until the switch to the 17a profile back in October.

Mine was 31.6/12.5, now 40/20. However I have always had 40/10.

Mine is now showing as 40Mbps down and 20 Mbps up.

40/6.5 for me now. Was 27/10 previously

I actually get about 25/5

Still no cab, and no sign of one - checker has changed however:

Before - 8th Nov 2011

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st December 2011. Our test also indicates that
your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband
where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30.7Mbps and upstream line
speed of 11Mbps.

Today - 29th Jan 2012

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test also indicates that
your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband
where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line
speed of 6.5Mbps.

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

I have had fibre on two lines:

Line 1 (650 metres):
----
8C Profile, mid 2011:
Original estimates: 30.1 Down, 6.1 Up.
Actual: 36 Down, 10 Up.
----
17A Profile, from Nov 2011:
Current estimates: 30.1 Down, 11.3 Up.
Actual: 40 Down, 10 Up
Modem's "Max Attainable": 65 Down, 15 Up.
----

New estimate: 40 Down, 10.9 up (Note this upstream estimate went down!)

Line 2 (450 metres):
----
17A Profile:
Current estimates: 29.2 Down, 11.9 Up.
Actual: 40 Down, 10 Up.
JDSU "Max Attainable": 85 Down, 25 Up.
Modem's "Max Attainable": 90 Down, 25 Up.
----

New estimate: 40 Down, 18 up (and this upstream estimate went up).

Is your cabinet a fair distance from the exchange like mine is? As I mentioned a few posts back, my estimate changed from 23.5/10.5 to 34.6/5.9 (almost a halving of the upload speed).

Thankfully the modem shows an attainable 55/18.

I was previously getting a 40/15 estimate and now get the following

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

My modem gives an Attainable Rate of 61944 down and 24389 up.

Are the line checker results capped at 40 down and 20 up?

My line had something like 130Meg / 54meg u/l on jdsu - this tester still estimating only 40meg d/l. Suspetc we may need to try tomorrow or wait for an official announcement before they lift 40meg estimates?

Yes is defiantly different I got same like You
Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40 Mbps and upstream line speed of 20 Mbps.

BUT BT website show difrent
BT Infinity Fibre optic broadband Fibre optic broadbandYou can get fibre optic broadband with speeds of up to 40Mb now. 40.0Mb download
10.0Mb upload

Edited by deleted (Sun 29-Jan-12 16:23:34)

Before i was estimated 26.5 down and 8.6 up now im estimated 35.7 down and 5.9 up.

Does anyone actually know when these new speeds will be activated as they cant estimate these speeds if they are not yet achievable as they have capped the speeds at the old levels. Im still getting about 26-28 even though my estimated speed has gone up.

If i were BT, i would not enable the checker for the 80 MB product, until it was on offer to all exchanges.

In reply to a post by orly:

40/6.5 for me now. Was 27/10 previously

I actually get about 25/5

Have you tried a resync?

Yep. It's what our line is capable of.

Always floats around 25Mbit. Sometimes it'll be a little higher, sometimes a little lower.

In reply to a post by Moradin:

If i were BT, i would not enable the checker for the 80 MB product, until it was on offer to all exchanges.

This is exactly how it will be. BT Wholesale have capped the checker at 40meg as this is the only product they currently offer.

When ISP trials have provided sufficient satisfactory standards for the 80meg service, then it'll be rolled out and the checker cap increased to 80meg.

In reply to a post by CJ8:

23/01/2012

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 23.5Mbps and upstream line speed of 8.6Mbps.

29/01/2012

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30.9Mbps and upstream line speed of 5.9Mbps.

A nice increase in downstream, but not so nice to see 3meg lopped off the upstream estimate. Cabinet went live just over a week ago, having it installed next week.

In reply to a post by burakkucat:

23/01/2012 @ 2352 hours.

Using my neighbours number (with his consent) as my line is LLU'd.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 12.6Mbps.

29/01/2012 @ 1814 hours.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

how to re-sync without loose ip profile? Is any disconnect bottom option on modem software our soft restart so Dslam knew is not problem with the line?

System up time 23 days 14 hours 16 minutes 10 seconds
Mode VDSL2
Traffic type PTM
DSL synchronization status Up
DSL up time 2038483

Line Status
Help
Downstream Upstream
Attainable rate (kbit/s) 107876 37510
SNR margin (dB) 25.9 24.5
Line attenuation (dB) 0 0
Output power (dBmV) 12.8 -2.5

23-Jan-12 11:39am

In reply to a post by reddev86:

My current estimate is exactly 40Mb.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 10.9Mbps.

Oddly enough, mine hasn't changed. It was 40/10.9 then, and it's 40/10.9 now.

Edited by reddev86 (Sun 29-Jan-12 20:52:42)

In reply to a post by rhino7:

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

Line 1 (650 metres):

Line 2 (450 metres):

Is your cabinet a fair distance from the exchange like mine is? As I mentioned a few posts back, my estimate changed from 23.5/10.5 to 34.6/5.9 (almost a halving of the upload speed).

Both distances were in the bit you quoted. My upload didn't go down (either in estimate, or when actually switched to 17a), so I guess your line is longer than both (or involves more aluminium).

Estimate was 40/15, now it's 40/20

I'm right on top of the cabinet so no surprise, 50-100m maybe.

In reply to a post by Ripley:

I believe the openreach line checker is due to change next sunday (29th jan) to reflect the 80 - 20 speeds. Would be interesting if people in enabled fttc areas could post line check results before and after the change...

Rather a curious change for me. Went from 33/15 to 40/20. Cab is installed but not yet live. Cable length is about 500 metres.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

As reported elsewhere, a change has occurred.

Taken 28/01/2012 @ 21:57

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

This is what mine states now, it used to be 37 (Down)/12.5 (Up).

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

40/15 - Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th June 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 39.3Mbps and upstream line speed of 14.1Mbps.

80/20- Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th June 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

DS/US estimates for three lines (home, another house we own and my in-laws) based on checks in October, December and today:

1) 28.9/6.4 -> 28.9/11.5 -> 40.0/13.2
2) 13.0/5.2 -> 22.6/5.2 -> 26.9/5.6
3) N/A -> 27.1/11.3 -> 40.0/10.9

I have FTTC on line #1 and measure 37.6/8.8 Mbit/s with a 38716 kbit/s profile (i.e., full 40/10 sync), approximately 500m from the cabinet. Line #2 is at least 900m; line #3 length is unknown and is planned for FTTC service in March.

What checker are you using to provide this information out of interest?

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Still no cab, and no sign of one - checker has changed however:

Before - 8th Nov 2011

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st December 2011. Our test also indicates that
your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband
where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30.7Mbps and upstream line
speed of 11Mbps.

Today - 29th Jan 2012

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test also indicates that
your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband
where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line
speed of 6.5Mbps.

In reply to a post by Ripley:

What checker are you using to provide this information out of interest?

The one linked on the main part of this site:

https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html

Thanks

My exchange is meant to be enabled by 1st March. The checker for me doesnt mention FTTC, but for you it tells you that your cab is due to be enabled.

Maybe mine is further down the line than they say!

Possibly they only show that info when they are very close to completion

In reply to a post by Yaz:

Today 23/1/12

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 36.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 14.1Mbps.

Today 30/1/12

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

I had the BT Engineer here last Thursday to swap my faulty Modem and he plugged his gadget in and told me that when the speed changes I can expect 68Mbps Down and Up 18Mbps

That is very nearly double what I get now. I would be really happy with that when it arrives!!

Steve

Edited by stevepressman (Tue 31-Jan-12 04:02:47)

In reply to a post by Ripley:

My exchange is meant to be enabled by 1st March. The checker for me doesnt mention FTTC, but for you it tells you that your cab is due to be enabled.

My exchange was one of the first to be marked as FTTC - the cabs around me were done in 2010 and my cab was first due for end 2010, then 3 different dates in 2011, and now its March 2012.

If your exchange hasn't been done yet, that might explain why the checker doesn't bother showing the estimated date.

Please note that BT have now advised that the checker is incorrectly showing the upstream up to 20Mb even though at present they do not offer this service. So, on the 12th Feb they will be updating the checker to show the estimate capped at 10Mb up - so don't worry when you see the upstream estimate reduce - it's planned.

Of course once BT do launch the 80/20 product the checker will then show up to 80/20 respectively.

Thanks

James

They quote:

As preparation for the FTTC 80/20 Product Variant trial (currently underway) changes have been made to the BTW Broadband Availability Checker which may, for a short period, result in higher than expected speeds being displayed.

In particular, please be aware that the upstream rates currently being returned for FTTC could show as high as 20Mbit/s.

This is scheduled to be corrected on 12th Feb meaning only speeds up to 10Mbit/s will be displayed until the FTTC 80Mbit/s Downstream 20Mbit/s Upstream product variant is officially launched.

Edited by deleted (Thu 02-Feb-12 13:05:34)

hi there and thanks for your information you provide from time to time

as far i know from the 6th of feb-middle march will be trials for the 80/20 product?
i rang my provider TT to get on trial and they told me they will not make trial because their equipment is compatable
do you know there after the trial period when BT will have the service up and going official??
thanks for your time

In reply to a post by Ripley:

I believe the openreach line checker is due to change next sunday (29th jan) to reflect the 80 - 20 speeds. Would be interesting if people in enabled fttc areas could post line check results before and after the change...

Taken today 03 FEB 2012

"Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps."

Current speeds are 37.5 Mbps down 8 Mbps up

.

Edited by deleted (Fri 03-Feb-12 17:21:16)

the 20mb upload has already been activated on my line for some reason.

D/L around 25-26
U/L was around 6-7
850 (approx from cabinet)

[IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/1759004004.png[/IMG]"]

Wow nice.

Post deleted by nelix01

Can you show us your line stats please, I can't find your old posts, would be interesting to see.

Post deleted by nelix01

why delete?

I wasn't asked to sign a NDA, but thought it best to check with work if it was ok to post something about stats. Let's just say I am happy with speed increase.

In reply to a post by nelix01:

I wasn't asked to sign a NDA, but thought it best to check with work if it was ok to post something about stats. Let's just say I am happy with speed increase.

Same here..I'm on the 80/20 and speeds are outstanding but I don't want to post anything more than that

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40 Mbps and upstream line speed of 20 Mbps.

So you're line sync @ 80000/20000 ?

Lee,

Are you on a DLM Trial as well?

In reply to a post by nelix01:

Lee,

Are you on a DLM Trial as well?

That's me

And to the above yes I'm syncing at 80.0Mbps down and 20.0Mbps up.

Very good, seems we keep the same company lol. And I think you have also posted on the Business Assurance website?

Are you allowed to say what the DLM trial is for?

That's me Neil...came home tonight to no PPP session though...engineer tomorrow!

Unfortunately not Wombat bud.

Afraid not.

Care to PM me some stats?, NDA is my second name from what I remember we have similar stats.

Not good. What version of the modem do you have as I am not convinced the early models are ready to cope with higher speeds.

I'm using a netgear 3700...the PPP session dropped at 00:08 this morning (the same time the line profile changed from 40/10 to 80/20) all 3 of my hub 3's (don't ask lol) show a RED broadband light. It's something to do with the line type change. Thoughts seem to be an engineer reset of the port in the cab will sort it...shame this can't be done remotely!

The sync speed is there at 80 just gutted I can't use it! Haha

I'm using an early version of the Openreach Modem and Hub3. I thought there were some throughput issues yesterday but this seems to have settled down now.

Post deleted by lee111s

Where did you do the test?

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=13288...

Speedtest.bbmax mate.

Do a speedtester.bt.com and it'll tell you the profile for the line

Seems the Wholesale checker is being tinkered with today.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 69.3Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Checked it again and got:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 10Mbps.

In reply to a post by Yaz:

In reply to a post by Yaz:

Today 23/1/12

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 36.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 14.1Mbps.

Today 30/1/12

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Today 12/2/12

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 73Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Strange...

BT announced that they were going to add an upstream cap of 10Mbps this weekend, after last weekend's upgrade to show 17a profiles (where they kept the downstream cap at 40).

On my original line, this cap is now in place, changing from 40/11 to 40/10. It was predicting 30/11 before last weekend.

On my new line, the opposite seems to have happened, and the downstream cap has disappeared: It went from 40/18 to 55/18 today (and went from 29/12 in last week's change).

In reply to a post by nelix01:

Seems the Wholesale checker is being tinkered with today.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 69.3Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Checked it again and got:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 10Mbps.

Yup, it's changed again for me:

"Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 62.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps."

Yep, gone from 40/20 to 58.1/20 (which I'm hoping means at least 70/20 in practice!)

Tested mine twice. First time showed 40/10 then 77.1/20

Now showing as:


Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 69.6Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Old:
Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 12.6Mbps.

New:
Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 60.1Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Not unlocked my modem yet but I would hope I would see the full 80Mbps when it gets activated.

FTTC is coming soon in my area.

Before today the phone number checker showed not available, but the postcode checker gave FTTC expected speeds.

Now the postcode checker doesnt mention FTTC!

Looking good for our office when Openreach finally enable the cab:

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 80Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Now:
Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 72.3Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Before that: 40 down and 20 up.
Before that: 38.5 down and 8.5 up.

I'm pretty happy with that .

I

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 80Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

I'm happy with that

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th June 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 75.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps

Interesting.

In reply to a post by maniac886:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

As reported elsewhere, a change has occurred.

Taken 28/01/2012 @ 21:57

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

This is what mine states now, it used to be 37 (Down)/12.5 (Up).

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

12/02/2012 Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 65.9Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

I am happy with that.

It'll be an error and most likely changed in the next few days

Mine was reporting 40/18, now reporting 58.5/18.

They have clearly removed the caps and the results. I wonder if they are about to announce the availability of 80/20 shortly?

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/i/5000.html

A wider trial started last week, so no full launch, but take notice of the way that providers can limit results if they want

Mine is now showing 61/20, however my max rate on the modem is showing approx 101/35.

My line now shows a 80/20 estimate.

My modem however reports an attainable rate of 61/31. Is the modem taken to be reliable, I thought the checker would usually underestimate.

The cat's back in the bag. I checked mine late last night and again just now; it showed the uncapped results but has now been capped, down and up. Here are the estimates from October, December, late January, last night and this morning:

28.9/6.4 -> 28.9/11.5 -> 40.0/13.2 -> 51.7/13.2 > 40.0/10.0

Edited by deleted (Mon 13-Feb-12 08:45:26)

50-100m line:

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th June 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 80Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

In my case the checker does underestimate but I guess not in all cases. I would believe the modem over BTs estimates.

Same here. Checked this morning and thought the estimate was rather conservative with it showing 69Mbs and 20Mbs, where my modem showed 87522kbps and interleaving was in place.
I would have thought this has gone up since interleaving has been removed some what.

The checker has changed again and now states 40Mbs/10Mbs. This used to be 37.1Mbs until a few weeks back.

My line has had the following changes:
- originally 31.3/10.1
- then 40/20 (after the first change)
- then 40/10 (last night)
- now 57.8/20

Still waiting for the cabinet to be enabled though. I think it's Richmond council's fault.

Same for me.

I observed that no phone numbers provided predicated available for any of Basingstoke's in-fill cabinets until literally the day before they went active. The postcode check was the only way for residents to get any indication that their lines may be covered.

In my own case, the cabinet was installed last July but has yet to be powered. Roadworks scheduled this weekend, but they've been scheduled and cancelled three times already so I'm not holding my breath!

In reply to a post by Alnath:

In reply to a post by Alnath:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 37.5Mbps and upstream line speed of 14.6Mbps.

My max attainable last time i looked was 132008kbps down 35734kbps up

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

Now:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 76.6Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps

Which is disapointing given my max attainable rate is so high lol

Edited by Alnath (Mon 13-Feb-12 10:52:19)

Strange it is showing 40/10 again now.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 10Mbps.

BT is trolling.

Mine's back to 40/10 as well. All pretty random!

Issue is sorted.

In reply to a post by lee111s:

Issue is sorted.

What issue?

That was causing the speeds to be reported for the up to 80meg FTTC product.

In reply to a post by lee111s:

That was causing the speeds to be reported for the up to 80meg FTTC product.

Right, it was quite a useful "issue" to have for a while though!

I`m due to get Fibre in June according to samknows. It was announced as phase 6b but the spreadsheet shows it as 8a now.

I didn't have a phone line until last week so was using the unreliable method of the postcode checker where I got various results over recent months, the last one I recorded was:

"Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed between 29.1 to 33.3 Mbps and upstream line speed between 10.5 to 12.6 Mbps."

Anyway, the BTWholesale checker for the phone number doesn't give any mention of Fibre and the above has also been removed for the postcode. Really hope it's still on track for June.

Me too. 16:44 yesterday "51.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 13.2Mbps". Now 40/10.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Me too. 16:44 yesterday "51.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 13.2Mbps". Now 40/10.

Looks like our lines are still identical twins in whatever parameter space the checker uses. It'll be interesting to see how it turns-out. If I get around to finding a spare modem (I'm becoming more cautious with age) and hacking it , it would be good to compare attainable rates.

There is one on ebay at the moment. My replacement was re-flashed almost as soon as the Kelly Comms guy had left.