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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Feb-12 02:13:25
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FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Hi Can anyone please supply any information
I am on the Knottingley Exchange MYKNO postcode WF11 0JZ no sign of any work done on the nearest cab ( number 2 ) to me which is 400 yards away And BT checker says nothing new.
Most of knottingley is 90% done also another street near by with new homes built around 4 years ago shows nothing on the BT checker also postcode is WF11 0LE


Thanks
David

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Standard User burakkucat
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Unfortunately the December 2011 document says "No" to the postcode WF11 0LE --

MYKNO,KNOTTINGLEY,WF110LE,{MYKNO}{P2},0,100%,,,,


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(deleted) Wed 01-Feb-12 09:07:44
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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What about Postcode WF11 0JZ that i am on

Looked on the December_2012_PCP. can not find and mention of CAB number 2thats near me.
How do i find out if i have a direct line to the telephone Exchange if i am not on that Cab
Also my street was built in 1937

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 01-Feb-12 10:04:01
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Yes, that post code is cab 2. It's in Part 2 of the two csv files. Not on the schedule at all.
"Blanks� = Not part of a phase / untargeted cabinet


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Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Wed 01-Feb-12 12:42:06
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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What about Postcode WF11 0JZ that i am on

Looked on the December_2012_PCP. can not find and mention of CAB number 2thats near me.
How do i find out if i have a direct line to the telephone Exchange if i am not on that Cab
Also my street was built in 1937
Identical to the above --
MYKNO,KNOTTINGLEY,WF110JZ,{MYKNO}{P2},0,100%,,,,


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Feb-12 22:03:03
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Thanks for the reply's
I Have the December_2012_PCP.csv but can not see page 2 showimg the postcode's not in use.
Goes from 100 to 500 showing the cabs in use
Where would i get Part 2 of the two csv files
Also what does 6b mean ?


thanks David

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 01-Feb-12 22:08:00
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Post the link to what you are looking at please smile.

The original spreadsheet appears to have been split into two, as it had too many rows. CSVs were created from those, that many of us have downloaded and imported into Excel.

Some kind soul created a multi-page single fusion document, and maybe they didn't include the exchange-only rows. That may be what you have.

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(deleted) Wed 01-Feb-12 22:10:14
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Here's what i have
https://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?snapi...

thanks

David
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 01-Feb-12 22:20:45
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Yes, that's the "kind soul" document I referred to.

It looks as though he has omitted lines that have the "blank" info. See the posts from burakkucat showing all the "commas" signifying empty cells, and my earlier post with the "Blank = ....", which is from the descriptive texts at the beginning of the raw csvs.

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Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Wed 01-Feb-12 22:26:44
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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The document header reads --
NGA
Whilst BT has endeavoured to ensure accuracy of the information contained in this document it cannot be guaranteed. BT cannot accept liability for any inaccuracies contained within this document.
Caveat; This list is only a current indication of cabinet to post code service correlation and may be subject to change in the longer term if re-routing of network connections is required at any time
Issue Version 1.0 (15th December 2011) Part One
PLEASE NOTE: Postcodes which map to Exchange Only Lines are not shown in this report.
Please do not forward

Openreach reserves the right to modify delivery criteria and delivery dates.

© British Telecommunications plc 2011
The ten fields, for each record, are as follows --
(1) SAU_ID
(2) Name
(3) Postcode
(4) SAU_NODE_ID
(5) Exchange Only Flag
(6) Percent Lines
(7) Uplift
(8) Phase
(9) Deployed
(10) FTTC or FTTP
The "6b" is the phase of a particular deployment.

[Edit: Ten fields per record, not nine.]

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Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Wed 01-Feb-12 22:35:19
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Bob,

As I don't use any Redmond based Company's software, I downloaded both parts, concatenated them, converted the line endings from DOS to Unix, stripped off the heading, sorted the entire file and then re-inserted the heading.

When I perform a look-up, I just grep the file for the item in question.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Feb-12 22:38:11
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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so it looks like no fibre broadband yet for me then
or do you think bt may update it later on
can you please give me a list of postcodes on cab no 2
to see how many homes are in the same boat .
If enough people are affected maybe bt may finish the job.
It worked back in 2003 to get broadband for knottingley


thanks again for your help

David

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Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Wed 01-Feb-12 22:58:32
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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In reply to a post by dparr59:
so it looks like no fibre broadband yet for me then
or do you think bt may update it later on
Possibly, yes. But who can rationalise the actions of "The Evil Empire" of 81 Newgate Street, London, EC1A 7AJ?
can you please give me a list of postcodes on cab no 2
to see how many homes are in the same boat .
Certainly . . .
[ajb@Duo2 Postcode_to_PCP_December_2011]$ awk -F, '$4 ~ "{MYKNO}{P2}" { print $3 }' *.csv | sed 's/10/1 0/'
WF11 0HR
WF11 0HY
WF11 0JG
WF11 0JZ
WF11 0LA
WF11 0LE
WF11 0LG
WF11 0LT
WF11 0PF


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(deleted) Wed 01-Feb-12 23:42:31
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Thanks for posting the list around 200 - 250 homes
plus 4 firms are using Cab 2 .


thanks Again

David
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(Unregistered)Thu 02-Feb-12 10:31:49
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Morning All,

I managed to find my postcode on the December 2011 Part 2 where it appears as below.

LSCLPM,SOUTH CLAPHAM,SW178AJ,{LSCLPM}{M_A},1,100%,,,,

I believe this indicates our cabinet is not due for the Rollout however I am confused by our Cabinet ID. What does the M_A stand for?
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(deleted) Thu 02-Feb-12 10:44:12
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Directly fed from the exchange. No cabinet in the line=no FTTC
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 02-Feb-12 10:57:27
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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In the cabinet id of "{M_A}", it seems that the "A" can be a letter of the alphabet - A, B, C, D etc have been seen. Everything seems to get the "M" label, but I haven't seen anyone say what this means yet.

I guess it might identify the MDF that the cable comes from, or the exchange manhole that it runs through. Any other ideas?
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(Unregistered)Thu 02-Feb-12 11:19:34
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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Thanks for the quick reply.

You can't have FTTC without the C!

We are about 1Km from the exchange with 3 cabinets fairly close to us 400m being the closest and the other two at 600m. Within 300m from us there are houses that are serviced by LSBAL that will be or are already getting FTTC.

The current connection can't really be described as terrible. I am currently connected to a VPN in the Czech Republic and getting around 3Mbps down but my other machines are getting around 5Mbps down with everything connected at the same time. Occasionally I do see the speeds going up to as much as 10Mbps down.

It's just frustrating having cabinets so close that are FTTC enabled!

I wish BT were a bit more forthcoming with their explanations.
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Re: FTTC enabled but not on my cab yet MYKNO


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I wish BT were a bit more forthcoming with their explanations.


hear hear!!

I don't know why they think the truth will hurt us.....

If anything, if btopenreach/bt had a list of where current work is going on, and where its due next, i know a lot of people that would start getting the sausages in for the nice openreach mans tea and sarnies smile
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In reply to a post by Moradin:
I wish BT were a bit more forthcoming with their explanations.


hear hear!!

I don't know why they think the truth will hurt us.....

If anything, if btopenreach/bt had a list of where current work is going on, and where its due next, i know a lot of people that would start getting the sausages in for the nice openreach mans tea and sarnies smile


Heck I'd take a couple of days off work and be the tea boy if OR fitted out my line with FTTP...
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(deleted) Fri 03-Feb-12 19:23:14
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Question on December_2012_PCP


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Could someone help me to understand the ten fields for each record in December_2012_PCP

(1) SAU_ID - In my case NDRAM for Ramsgate in Kent OK

(2) Name Ramsgate OK

(3) Postcode CT118EG OK

(4) SAU_NODE_ID {NDRAM}{P17} That's the cabinet that I am on ?

(5) Exchange Only Flag 0 Here I am lost

(6) Percent Lines 100 Still lost

(7) Uplift 3.66 ???

(8) Phase 8a I presume this just indicates the order in which roll out will be done ?

(9) Deployed Yes ???

(10) FTTC or FTTP FTTC It will be fibre to the cabinet and not to premises.

Thanks in advance if you can enlighten me.

David
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 03-Feb-12 19:46:34
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Yes.
Cab 17

Percent lines, the percentage of lines in that post code that are fed from that cabinet. 100 = all.

Exchange only flag 0 means this is a cabinet data line for this postcode. Flag 1 would be if the percent figure was less than 100, say 60, and there was another line somewhere for the same postcode with percent 40 and data for those. There could be more entries, so maybe 60 cab 17, 30 some other cab, 10 exchange.

Uplift 3.66 means multiply your current speed by 3.66 and that's about what you can expect.

Deployed Yes means it is planned to be done. These days it can also mean is done, but you would know if it was.

Yes, Phase 8a is just to do with the job sequencing. None of us have any ideas of dates.

Yes, in this case FTTC.

Edit - exchange flag is unclear above. It is only set to 1 on the data that is the feed from the exchange. If there is/are one or more cabs also serving the postcode, they will have flag = 0.

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Edited by RobertoS (Fri 03-Feb-12 19:48:46)

Standard User burakkucat
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In reply to a post by WWWombat:
In the cabinet id of "{M_A}", it seems that the "A" can be a letter of the alphabet - A, B, C, D etc have been seen. Everything seems to get the "M" label, but I haven't seen anyone say what this means yet.

I guess it might identify the MDF that the cable comes from, or the exchange manhole that it runs through. Any other ideas?
Just to add to the confusion, I have collated all the entries not of the "{Pnumber}" format that appeare in the "SAU_NODE_ID" field. They are --

Text
1
23
45
67
89
M_A         PE11        PE3         PE93        PP125T      PP52T
M_B         PE12        PE30        PFCC1       PP127T      PP53TM_C         PE13        PE31        PHOW        PP145T      PP5T
M_D         PE16        PE4         PMDF2       PP18T       PP61TM_E         PE18        PE5         PP108T      PP1T        PP6T
M_F         PE19        PE6         PP109T      PP2T        PP7TPCMUX1      PE2         PE7         PP117T      PP43T       PS1
PE1         PE20        PE8         PP118T      PP49T       PS2PE10        PE21        PE9         PP124T      PP4T


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Edited by burakkucat (Sat 04-Feb-12 02:58:27)

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Thanks a lot . I am getting about 13 Mb/s download on my ADSL+ annexM so I work that out to be about "up to 47 M/bs". So now I will have to wait and see what I get when it becomes available to me, Thanks again.

David
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