FTTC Migration

Has anyone migrated from one FTTC supplier to another recently? Does it still require an OR engineer visit?

So long as ISP does not mess things up (Robertos) then it should not require a visit is the consensus.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

So long as ISP does not mess things up (Robertos) then it should not require a visit is the consensus.

Thanks. My migration is due to take place tomorrow and at no point has an engineer visit been mentioned but I wasn't sure if OR insisted on an engineer attending to swap a couple of Ethernet cables.

Edited by deleted (Thu 02-Feb-12 15:49:19)

Normally just like a standard migration with a MAC.

Simply changing the user/pass (and IP if req) in the router is all you need to do.

Matt

Hi griff,
I have migrated twice and neither required an engineer visit.

Cheers for the confirmation.

You must have been a really early FTTC user to have migrated twice already!

Not that early no. I think it was the same time as you (ish), and correct me if I am wrong but we were both with BE* ( I think we had this discussion on the BE forum...if you were not with Be then apologies).
I went from an Entanet FTTC reseller, to AAISP FTTC and then to BT Infinty which I am currently with.

I was with Be, if we've spoke on there then my apologies for forgetting.

You must have left Be earlier than me as I've only been on FTTC for just under 18 months (only enough time to migrate once with the 12 month contracts in force).

It was a brief conversation on the forum a long time ago, so no apologies required.
I think I had FTTC a month or two after you ( a lot has happened since then lol)
I got out of both contracts with those previous companies while still being in contract but that's a different story .

In reply to a post by colesy10:

I got out of both contracts with those previous companies while still being in contract but that's a different story .

Aah.. Makes sense now!

In reply to a post by colesy10:

I went from an Entanet FTTC reseller, to AAISP FTTC and then to BT Infinty which I am currently with.

Did you have to pay the normal installation costs to the new ISP, or was it a free migration?

I'm still sitting here with a MAC burning a hole in my InBox.

Have you been with Idnet a year already? Or have you managed to negotiate your way out of contract too?

Migrated in 18 Feb. So need to decide very soon.

I paid a small contribution to end my contract with the original Entanet reseller, but then I paid a £1 admin fee to join AAISP. I didn't pay any other installion fee (which was usually around the £75 to £100 ball park figure with AAISP).
I left AAISP for free and joined BT without any installion fee, but also had £25 back I think via topcashback. I also had a discounted rate for 3 months (Infinity option 2- unlimited with 10Mb upload.)

Thanks again.

This conversation makes me realise the postcode lottery of fast the internet rollout. While some have had affordable access to superfast broadband for nearly two years, others still limp on with first gen DSL of a couple of Mb.

Appreciate it guys!

Did you have a 12 month contract with AAISP?

Still a few exchanges that dont even have ADSL some 12 years after they started

I wish i could have got near half of your current speed for 6 years, i fact 1/8 of it for 4 years, prior to that costing a fortune on dial up to 2005 as adsl wasnt available to me without a severe push to BT, think yourself lucky. Probably paying same price to, now tell me its a lottery.
Balls on the other foot now.

Which leads me on to, who should i go with next.
Phone contract ends this month and on a rolling contract should i go BT or any where else.

There's a phrase that springs to mind involving Norman Tebbitt and his bicycle, or at least a paraphrased version of it: Just move yourself to where there *is* faster broadband.

On balance, though, you can't just wait until someone gives it to you. You have to go out and make sure it comes to you: By moving, or by community involvement, or by council funding.

The rollout follows the economics: BT put it where it is of benefit to its profit margin. All you have to do is either move yourself into BT's target crosshairs, or make BT decide that your community is going to be profitable after all.

Is isn't a lottery. And there is something you can do about it.

I certainly appreciate being lucky to get ADSL in the very first trials - but I'd have moved very swiftly if I didn't. And when I did move recently, I made sure it was to a fibre area, within a good distance of the cabinet. It was the only exchange in the county at the time, which made it pretty critical.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Still a few exchanges that dont even have ADSL some 12 years after they started

20 in the Western Isles of Scotland, 3 in South-East England, and 3 in Eastern England (including 1 in London's docklands with 12 subscribers).

Most had 100-200 subscribers, so I guess we're talking 3000-4000 properties?

Yes I did. But they made to change to the monthly allowance and a small price increase and it was their decision that they would allow people to leave. Which to be fair was very decent of them.

Ignore the docklands one, its a corporate customer type cab.

Western Isles had wireless option for some time. Hence my saying a few.

Your previous message piqued my interest, so I went to have a look. An exchange that still doesn't have ADSL is obviously off the list for a reason... and it seems that these exchanges have fewer subscribers than your average suburban cabinet.

In the end, it isn't about whether an exchange supports ADSL, it is whether a subscriber can get to the internet by any means - and wireless is indeed probably more appropriate in the Island cases. I imagine the backhaul is the tricker aspect, anyway.

In reply to a post by hareng:

I wish i could have got near half of your current speed for 6 years, i fact 1/8 of it for 4 years, prior to that costing a fortune on dial up to 2005 as adsl wasnt available to me without a severe push to BT, think yourself lucky. Probably paying same price to, now tell me its a lottery.
Balls on the other foot now.

Speedtest.net tells me that 52% of the UK population has a faster connection than me. So I'm fully aware that I'm better off than many people. I was actually thinking more about those people who still have sub megabit connections when I wrote my post. As mentioned on other forums the real world impact of going from your speed to FTTC speeds should be lifestyle altering. For me it will mean peak bandwidth per person in my home would increase 10x which would make a difference to my online behaviour.

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

Is isn't a lottery. And there is something you can do about

The lottery part of my statement applies in many ways. Distance from cab for FTTC, distance from exchange for ADSL, OR going with FTTP instead of FTTC, RF interference killing bandwidth, proximity to a 3G mast for wireless access, the list goes on...

Also not everyone has the flexibility to move where the Internet access is better. I moved to my current home 6 years back when Fibre was nowhere. As you say when I next move it will be up there in my list of requirements!

Edited by deleted (Sat 04-Feb-12 11:45:00)