FTTC in Carlisle begins its rollout

Just seen this at my Cab, pcp82 at the carlisle exchange.....

Good news for their mid june completion date...

http://i43.tinypic.com/fn48et.jpg

Edited by deleted (Mon 06-Feb-12 11:39:39)

In reply to a post by gazter:

Just seen this at my Cab, pcp82 at the carlisle exchange.....

Good news for their mid june completion date...

http://i43.tinypic.com/fn48et.jpg

I have my doubts. The cabinets being done around here only take a day and you never see large rolls of cable. It's quite impressive really how quickly they install them. Leave for work in the morning and there's nothing there. Arrive home at night and the van has gone and there's a new cabinet. I'd also say that work being done now for June seems unlikely. They started here in late December for a March completion.

Edited by Andrue (Mon 06-Feb-12 12:27:15)

The openreach engineer said it was fibre roll out, they had just finished Penrith, he had worked on sunderland and parts of Lancashire.

According to the top guy in north west area for BT, they anticipate 80% of their cabs that are getting upgraded to be up and ready by mid june, with some ready in May.

In reply to a post by gazter:

The openreach engineer said it was fibre roll out, they had just finished Penrith, he had worked on sunderland and parts of Lancashire.

According to the top guy in north west area for BT, they anticipate 80% of their cabs that are getting upgraded to be up and ready by mid june, with some ready in May.

Oh well, it must be that then. Perhaps it just depends on the area. Maybe Carlisle has ducting issues that we don't. My brother lives in Carlisle (just off London Road) so he'll be pleased if they've started now.

Looks like blown fiber tubing (BFT) that the fibre bundles are blown through

The same thing happend about a month ago in my street

my cabs dated for end of june.

In reply to a post by gazter:

Just seen this at my Cab, pcp82 at the carlisle exchange.....

Good news for their mid june completion date...

http://i43.tinypic.com/fn48et.jpg

Old thread i know but if your still around gazter where about was this photo taken? looks a little like kingstown but i carnt place it, i live just off lingmoore road and our cab is due to be done but ive yet to see any hint of work, would love to see one of these fttc cabs myself

R.E.G.I.S.

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In reply to a post by gazter:

Just seen this at my Cab, pcp82 at the carlisle exchange.....

Good news for their mid june completion date...

http://i43.tinypic.com/fn48et.jpg

Old thread i know but if your still around gazter where about was this photo taken? looks a little like kingstown but i carnt place it, i live just off lingmoore road and our cab is due to be done but ive yet to see any hint of work, would love to see one of these fttc cabs myself

R.E.G.I.S.

This was on the corner of Wigton Road and Westrigg Road. A few weeks ago Openreach were also laying the black pipes (which the fibre is blown threw) up and down london road.

I have yet to see any new cabinets anywhere yet, i havent witnessed any further work at my cabinet since this photograph.

Kingstown by the way is *not* getting FTTC anytime soon.

Cheers, if i see anything up my way will post

R.E.G.I.S.

It looked like morton by Morton school. I have yet to see any new cabs tho :/ Not good. And just over a month to go before activation... I would like fiber as soon as its out . ( Jamie from Currock)

In reply to a post by gazter:

This was on the corner of Wigton Road and Westrigg Road. A few weeks ago Openreach were also laying the black pipes (which the fibre is blown threw) up and down london road.

That'll cheer my brother up then. His cab is number 72 near the traffic lights at B&Q.

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In reply to a post by gazter:

This was on the corner of Wigton Road and Westrigg Road. A few weeks ago Openreach were also laying the black pipes (which the fibre is blown threw) up and down london road.

That'll cheer my brother up then. His cab is number 72 near the traffic lights at B&Q.

Indeed, i live a little furthur up near the new aldi, every time i drive home from work i glance at the side of the cabs to see if anything has been painted yet.

Question, can they still install the cabs intime for the activation date or is more likely to be pushed back?

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In reply to a post by Andrue:

In reply to a post by gazter:

This was on the corner of Wigton Road and Westrigg Road. A few weeks ago Openreach were also laying the black pipes (which the fibre is blown threw) up and down london road.

That'll cheer my brother up then. His cab is number 72 near the traffic lights at B&Q.

Indeed, i live a little furthur up near the new aldi, every time i drive home from work i glance at the side of the cabs to see if anything has been painted yet.

Question, can they still install the cabs intime for the activation date or is more likely to be pushed back?

Hard to say. Don't be too disheartened if the date is pushed back though. BT work with a three month window so a push back always appears to be a three month delay. In my case the date was pushed back to June 31st on the 28th of March. The cabinet went live on the 30th of March.

I don't know if there is a set procedure or not but my cabinet was in place over a month before it went live. Also not all cabinets have been done in Brackley. The town centre is a conservation area that's prevented several cabs from being installed so far. Personally I can't see what the fuss is. Does this look like a particularly attractive wall or example of fine British architecture?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&g...

Ah well. Not my problem. Out on the edge of town we have our shiny new cabs

Edited by Andrue (Mon 30-Apr-12 15:05:05)

What looks like completed groundworks on the roundabout end of crown street (concrete base with several tubes comeing out of it) and what looks like groundworks in progress at the juncions of london road/gray street and london road/hillcrest av

GREAT NEWS!!
On my way in to collage this morning I seen many BT vans around , Walked passed routledges in currock and a Sub contractor company was cleaning up after installing a new cab!! Got over the bridge towards Grey street and next to an old CAB is a half dug path with barriers around ready for a new CAB! . Then getting closer to RIchard Rose Central I seen even more BT men about. Will have to check if my Cab on alton street ( Next to B and M wllpaper) has been done when I get home tonight!

( MY TB account is Jamsea07 but I cannot log in :/ )

Confirmed fibre cab on the corner of salisbury road and the roundabout at five roads end (boundary road/blackwell road/beaconsfield street) it is one of these types http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/bt_furniture_2.html

Also seen one on the corner of scotland road/thornton road next to the spar while going to morrisons this morning

Let the games begin

Edited by omnius (Sat 05-May-12 15:11:32)

Hello,
Now the cab by five road ends is next to an old cab. My cab is outside B and M . Would my line get moved to that cab/ That cab take on more lines or will i need to wait for another one to be in place.

Lines from the premises to the exchange go through a particular cabinet and unless the customer is willing to fork out many thousands of pounds there is no chance of it being changed to go through a different cabinet.

As RobertoS says it could be done but by god would it cost you, both in turns of cash and speed (speed is messured from the cab for fibre not from the exchange).

Id wait for your cab to be installed if your getting one, how long that will take i dont know, they seem to have forgotten the one on crown street, was told by a work mate who's brother works at staples that they started that work on tuesday so that makes it almost a week and they still havnt got the cab in place. Did you notice how long it took for the five roads end cab to fitted?

Its a shame no-one can leak the cab fitting shedual's, would make a lot of people who are waiting for there cabs to be fitted (not just here in carlisle) very happy (hint, hint )

I think the complication is amplified if the cabinet doesnt have an electric service cable near to it, and needing one spurred from a near by source.

Yet to see one....

Following on from mentions of an installed cab in Carlisle. This is the one installed at currock:

[IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/359a1k4.jpg[/IMG]

Well, like a bad case of herpes (coldsores for the chicks) these things are popping up all over the place, seen them putting one in on St Nicholas today, and a friend said up at wolsty close there was another one going in....

Still waiting for mine though!

A close mate was told by a bt guy that there was none going on wigton road, i drive up that way to visit my mum (she lives on sandsfield park) and low and behold there doing the groundworks for one at the juncion of wigton road and orton road...... go figure.

no sign yet of one on the roundabout on crown street but the ones on london road/grey street and london road/hillcrest avenue are both now complete altho the placeing of the hillcrest one is VERY suspect as its right next to the railings leaveing people a very small gap to get thro. ( http://g.co/maps/k6urb The cab is to the right of the road sign and that funny end plate on the barrier is still there leaveing a small gap)

no work yet on ours either ( http://g.co/maps/9p6zt ) :'( a sinical mind would say bt are reading this and leaveing ours till last lol

Edited by omnius (Thu 17-May-12 14:42:53)

It seems that the BT engineers who are not part of the fttc installation team are as clueless as the rest of us. My original photo shows them shoving the piping that the fibre is pushed down right at the very end of wigton road, they wouldnt be doing that if they werent putting fibre there.. That cab is on their december database.

It seems pace as speeded up and we might actually get live not too far off the 30th june 2012 date.

Has anyone else noticed on the bt infinity map carlisle has been pushed back to December 2012 from July!

Jamie

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Has anyone else noticed on the bt infinity map carlisle has been pushed back to December 2012 from July!

Jamie

http://www.openreach-communications.co.uk/superfast/... still has it as june, will keep an eye on it mind

http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumer/asset... has june 30th........ which map did u check?

Edited by omnius (Tue 22-May-12 18:56:31)

Hello,
I looked at the fibre map from BT. Same as one of your links but the date is back to the correct timescale. I must of found an old link some how.

Jamie

i think i was about to cry!!!

The deployment rate of the cabinets has upped a level, they are everywhere now! As long as they need an electrical supply that is most of the hard work done. I understand that the work at the exchange itself is as planned.

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i think i was about to cry!!!

The deployment rate of the cabinets has upped a level, they are everywhere now! As long as they need an electrical supply that is most of the hard work done. I understand that the work at the exchange itself is as planned.

It's the electrical work that tends to hold thing up. Round my way it was anything up to 4 months between the cabinets being installed and the power connected up.

I see they have started yours gazter, lucky sod


my mums is due to be done (cab62) however the one shes connected to is labled p62/1 does this mean it will be done or is there more then one p62?

Only one P62, just looked it up, yes its getting done. Your cabinet must have some utterly awful average download speeds, the spreadsheet estimates the speed increase as being 32x your current line speed (and this was before the doubling to 80mb announcement).

In reply to a post by gazter:

Only one P62, just looked it up, yes its getting done. Your cabinet must have some utterly awful average download speeds, the spreadsheet estimates the speed increase as being 32x your current line speed (and this was before the doubling to 80mb announcement).

Yep when i lived at home b4 omne cabled up the estate i was getting a whopping........ wait for it......... 400k adsl, the current speed testers say

For Telephone Number 01228****** on Exchange CARLISLE

Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial test on your line indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 512Kbps. However, due to the length of your line, an engineer visit may be required, who will, where possible, supply the broadband service.


Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 1Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 750Kbps and 2.5Mbps.


Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL2+ broadband line speed of 1Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 1Mbps and 3.5Mbps.

with both my youngest brother (17) and my sister (15) still at home shes really looking forward to it (i left her with my old 20meg cable connection (18.7 throput) when i moved out)

Edited by omnius (Wed 23-May-12 19:56:08)

Smallworld?

Just found the link I was referring to before it was an outdated BT Business infinity map. Lets hope infinity gets enabled asap for all us that have a cab waiting ( Such as me at five road ends ). But would TalkCrap or Sky be the best?

When it was fitted it was omne (still have one of there email address's), then wightcablenorth took it over when it when bust and now its known as smallworld. im still to this day mildly surprised virgin havnt shown a intrest in it when it was up for sale those two times

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When it was fitted it was omne (still have one of there email address's), then wightcablenorth took it over when it when bust and now its known as smallworld. im still to this day mildly surprised virgin havnt shown a intrest in it when it was up for sale those two times

I doubt it is a very profitable enterprise. Their takeup is extremely low, their coverage is ridiculously small, though those who use them say the speed can be pretty good on their top packages and they dont meter or shape traffic. I suspect it can only possibly break even because its capital costs got written off when it went bust.

In the decade or more that Smallworld have been in carlisle their footprint has not extended a single house beyond their original work. They dont even seem to have the wit to liaise with the big builders and get new builds all cabled up.

People are lazy and governed by inertia. If thye cabled up a new estate, they would get close to 100% levels of subscribers and keep all but the most determined.

Well I work the computer shop on port road and Small world covers the two places next door to us but refused to offer us fibre so we gave up with them.

Jamie

Carlisle numbers are now coming up on the Talktalk FTTC checker with estimated speeds:

https://sales.talktalk.co.uk/products/broadband/fibr...

They have been showing for the last two months a speed but according to ADSL24 its just estimated for the postcode to what Talktalk think we will get. I agree with them as I had an estimated speed before my cab was installed.

Jamie
(I really need to get my tb account back)

Got an account now,
Already getting Talktalk on the phone to get connected as they seem the best out of BT and Sky for fttc for unlimited usage and low price. Just wonder what their speeds are like...

True but there customer service is <insert very nasty crude word here> and for me cust service is everything especialy when you have problems, im planning on staying with sky for the simple reasion that i had install probs with both my last houses and they bent over backwards to help........ plus also is 10/'20 meg upload REALLY nessary unless you do a hell of a lot of cloud/server work??

mental note: dont jinks it now..............

I second that about customer service. As far as broadband goes, talktalk is fine, better than BT, but their customer support is so atrocious that it becomes close to impossible to get all but the most simple of problems solved. There has been multiple occasions in which i have liaised on behalf of others and have not been able to resolve issues. Sometimes the only way to get a problem sorted is to actually move provider. I would hate to be tied into a contract with talktalk.

With Sky you get good customer service, good speed and a good price. Their support is generally handled within the British Isles and their first tier support are not hired for their ability to fob you off.

Well today I have signed up with TalkCrap but was told I have no cooling off when I'm connected but I can cancel whenever I want before hand so I am going to call tomorrow and cancel and Join sky. ( First tell sky im leaving the tv) And have a look at multiroom,HD and broadband. Anyone talked to BT yet about FTTC?

to the best of my knowlage bt aint takeing orders yet for carlisle, ive tryied several numbers on the checker and nothing yet. considering the time to live isnt till end of june id be surprised if anyone is takeing orders yet.

One other thing i havnt heard back from sky yet as to if the exchange has had the kit installed for skys own fttc service, if and when i do i will post.

I had a very slow reply from SKY about FTTC and it was basically " its not available in your area".
Only just over a month till activation date!

In reply to a post by omnius:

to the best of my knowlage bt aint takeing orders yet for carlisle, ive tryied several numbers on the checker and nothing yet. considering the time to live isnt till end of june id be surprised if anyone is takeing orders yet.

One other thing i havnt heard back from sky yet as to if the exchange has had the kit installed for skys own fttc service, if and when i do i will post.

Arent Sky being part of the new wholesale openreach products launching in June? This allows sky to provide fttc via BT no matter what the status of their own equipment at the exchange?

I dont know.

Gone with sky in the end. I'm sure using the openreach modem they wont be able to see what router is being used.
Samknows says its 1/6/12 when the exchange is enabled.

I don't think it work's using your own router for fibre. Have a look at the post at the bottom of this link http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-broadband-fibre-h...

Regards Carlisle Newbie

Have they let you do the order? something else ive noticed is there useing 2 types of cab, the big 288 and the smaller huawei 128.

Havnt seen anyone working on the insides yet to ask which type of equipment is being installed, hopeing its the huawei kit

I have being looking it up but sky fibre is not available in all area's where infinity is.
If its old the old easynet dslam equipment at the exchange, then sky need upgrade the equipment. I've used tracert and it comes up with the easynet address, and rang 17070 and it comes back bt engineer rather the zoe .

No It was an email to sky,
I have only wanted to sign up to sky in hope of fibre .
Well today is the 1st!

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I don't think it work's using your own router for fibre. Have a look at the post at the bottom of this link http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-broadband-fibre-h...

Regards Carlisle Newbie

There is supposed to be a beta firmware (could be released by now) that allows the Billion 7800 to work with the SKY FTTC (similar to the slightly incompatible MER authentication in their ADSL).

I believe FritzBox and similar would work as well.

In reply to a post by greenglide:

There is supposed to be a beta firmware (could be released by now) that allows the Billion 7800 to work with the SKY FTTC (similar to the slightly incompatible MER authentication in their ADSL).

I believe FritzBox and similar would work as well.

Do you mean this?

http://www.billion.uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=382

if so it should be noted that it appiers to be billion themselves trying to do it and it has nothing to do with sky, if that is the case then its against the T&C's but then sky dont appier to care at tthe momment (at least with adsl)

Edited by omnius (Fri 01-Jun-12 19:36:29)

Does anyone know if Botcherby is going to get FTTC as i am very eager to switch from poor speeds

What's your post code

Well thats my cab going in now

News and star said there was hardly going to be any rollout in carlisle....... theres more cabs now then spots on a teenagers face

CA12TD

Your post code is conected to pcp52 and your cab is not on the schedule. but that info is from Dec list

How do you find this information

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How do you find this information

some people (Mainly ISP's but some other people as well) have access to the pcp database, there was a leaked version of it some months ago (december i belive) but it only had a handfull of carlisle cabs on it, i belive that is the data that the "make it up and [censored]" paper used as a base for that stupid story they ran about how bad the rollout was.

The current version has never been leaked so im guessing that openreach has layed down the law so to speak.

if u dont get a answer here theres a chap called james who works for adsl24 (http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/showprofile.php?User=Adsl24&Board=otherisp&Number=4128422&what=showflat&vc=1) from what ive seen in other posts he is quite knolageable and willing to help whenever he can, give him a message and he might be able to help

Edited by omnius (Thu 07-Jun-12 21:44:04)

I have seen today a new green box being sorted on durranhill road surely they wouldn't do half the estate???

judgeing from other posts from other areas id have to say yes they would and have

Thanks for your replies omnius is there any way you can check where the cabs are at because I can find 3 cabs near me and would like to know which is pcp52 lol

In reply to a post by omnius:

Well thats my cab going in now

News and star said there was hardly going to be any rollout in carlisle....... theres more cabs now then spots on a teenagers face

They got the story from me, but as usual, slightly inaccurate. My point was that BT's decision to exclude the industrial estates, not exclusive to Carlisle of course, will have a measurable impact on the city's capacity to attract investment.

In reply to a post by omnius:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

How do you find this information

some people (Mainly ISP's but some other people as well) have access to the pcp database, there was a leaked version of it some months ago (december i belive) but it only had a handfull of carlisle cabs on it, i belive that is the data that the "make it up and [censored]" paper used as a base for that stupid story they ran about how bad the rollout was.

The current version has never been leaked so im guessing that openreach has layed down the law so to speak.

if u dont get a answer here theres a chap called james who works for adsl24 (http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/showprofile.php?User=Adsl24&Board=otherisp&Number=4128422&what=showflat&vc=1) from what ive seen in other posts he is quite knolageable and willing to help whenever he can, give him a message and he might be able to help

The version from december had a substantial rollout planned for Carlisle, with a few holes.

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Thanks for your replies omnius is there any way you can check where the cabs are at because I can find 3 cabs near me and would like to know which is pcp52 lol

Most of the cabinets have their pcp number written on them in white paint.

Lol this is Botcherby we are talking about the cabs that I have passed are full of graffiti

Instead of Anonymous I thought i would just register lol right having checked that the most of Botcherby runs off PCP52 and seeing a brand new Cab round the corner from me i am hoping that this means the Dec 11 info is wrong and i am going to be able to receive faster speeds

Just noticed bottom of Denton street getting the fibre cab installed today near homehead bay,talk talk allready taking orders for july,nothing on Bt as of yet.i am abut 100 metres from that cab.

In reply to a post by gazter:

The version from december had a substantial rollout planned for Carlisle, with a few holes.

My appologys, the version i got access to (via someone who posted on this site who had turned it into a searchable spreadsheet) came back unknown for almost every postcode i tryied (mine, parents and a few friends)
I only got 2 hits, where i work and a house i used to live at some 10 years ago

I used this (http://fttc-check.alc.im/) to check most streets in Botcherby and they are all connected to pcp52 and the Cab i seen is here
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Durranhill+Road,+Ca...

With the new Cab being beside it

But there is this Cab a little up the road
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Durranhill+Road,+Ca...

Which has not got a new cab beside it so i dont know which one i am connected to lol

New cab getting put to the right on this one today.is that all bt are offering 40mb,talk talk have said 64mb for me.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=denton+street+carli...

BT Infinity is up to 80/20.

you wont get it a day earlier going by talktalk. Talktalk are doing what they always do, just trying to get in early. They cant even remotely accurately predict your line speed. The system is not active yet.

Bump

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Bump

Spoke to an engineer yesterday. He said he was one of the team that will be doing the home installs. As fas he knows everything is still on schedule for the end of the month.

I hope!!!

gazter do you have a list or know which parts of the city is getitng fibre.

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gazter do you have a list or know which parts of the city is getitng fibre.

Yes, it is the list which is available if you know where to look. Give me your postcode and i can check later.

CA25NZ

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CA25NZ

98% getting FTTC from cabinet 139, 1% Exchange only so no fibre for now. Last 1% is always missing if more than one result - they must round down the figures.

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 23-Jun-12 09:18:21)

Just looked on the openreach website and the date as been put back to september 2012 (

Phil

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Just looked on the openreach website and the date as been put back to september 2012 (

Phil

Don't panic... They have put back all of the june compketion atez. The work in Carlisle afaik is close to completion, with multiple cabinets at a stage in which they are ready to go live.
It could still go live at any moment.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Just looked on the openreach website and the date as been put back to september 2012 (

Phil

Don't panic... They have put back all of the june completion dates.. The work in Carlisle afaik is close to completion, with multiple cabinets at a stage in which they are ready to go live.
It could still go live at any moment.

Seen more men today tinkering in the 5 road ends cab.
http://www.fibremap.bt.com/ says the 30th. Just with Sky hoping they will be able to supply me fibre.

Word on the street is that it just needs activated at the exchange side and slight bit of copper linking the two cabs.

Jamie

(Jamieearl)

personaly id trust the data on that site as far as i could throw it.

http://www.openreach-communications.co.uk/superfast/... is much better

Good luck with sky as i still carnt get a answer out of them other then call back when bt tell you the cab is live, its <BEEP>ing me off so much now i might just go with bt anyways (i also like the idea i can use my OWN router).

Still saying that when i asked one of the women manning the sky stall in the lanes about the fibre offerings from sky they both said "the what??"

Edited by omnius (Wed 27-Jun-12 14:59:35)

What does the B stand for as in Carlisle District (B)

It defaults to america for some reasion.

Try carlisle, cumbria

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What does the B stand for as in Carlisle District (B)

There is no district B that i know of, theres a few marked as such........ bizzare

Internal code perhaps as in (b)ehind schedule

Edited by omnius (Wed 27-Jun-12 18:44:08)

In reply to a post by gazter:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Just looked on the openreach website and the date as been put back to september 2012 (

Phil

Don't panic... They have put back all of the june completion dates.. The work in Carlisle afaik is close to completion, with multiple cabinets at a stage in which they are ready to go live.
It could still go live at any moment.

Glad to hear this, thought I was going to have to wait another 3 month haha! The cabinet appeared on my street around 2 - 3 week ago. (Harraby)

Spoke to the engineer that was working on the new cab and i found out that the cab i am connected to has not got a new cab beside it so why they roll it out to a Cabinet that is near where i live but is not the one that most of the estate is connected to baffles me cab 52 is s**t lol

In reply to a post by BazovCarlisle:

Spoke to the engineer that was working on the new cab and i found out that the cab i am connected to has not got a new cab beside it so why they roll it out to a Cabinet that is near where i live but is not the one that most of the estate is connected to baffles me cab 52 is s**t lol

Yea, it's weird how they've worked it.
Talked to the guy working on the one down the road from me, he said it should be ready in 4 - 5 week because it's nearly done!

are they still installing cabs?

I havnt seen any work anywhere and yet theres at least 2 pcp's that should be getting done but theres been no work yet

In reply to a post by omnius:

are they still installing cabs?

I havnt seen any work anywhere and yet theres at least 2 pcp's that should be getting done but theres been no work yet

I'm not to sure, you'd think so but it seems most new cabs are near completion, so maybe not. Are you sure they're getting upgraded? Only certain parts of Carlisle seem to be getting it.

Yep both are listed to the best of my knowlage.

also my fiber cab was completed and it was makeing the faint fan noise others have reported, on sunday there was a smaller bt van (think car sized one) at the cab and now its totaly silent........ problems maby or do you think theve turned it off now the dates been pushed back till sept

Yep up here by garlands there are cabs that haven't been done yet and according to TalkTalk and the leaked database they are to be done. It's quite a big housing estate up here too so i'm keeping my fingers crossed that openreach are still going to do them....

In case anyone has anymore info postcode is CA1 3GX

Cheers

Anybody any idea if this is anything to do with BT http://i49.tinypic.com/23m3c5u.jpg

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Yep up here by garlands there are cabs that haven't been done yet and according to TalkTalk and the leaked database they are to be done. It's quite a big housing estate up here too so i'm keeping my fingers crossed that openreach are still going to do them....

In case anyone has anymore info postcode is CA1 3GX

Cheers

Its not openreach but a company called telnet (or something like that) thay also did the upgrades of the road traffic lights in carlisle not that long ago when they converted them to those low power ones

Believe its a BT TPON caninet

Hmmmm i'm apparently connected to P151 but can't find it anywhere and this is sat on the corner of my street could I be connected to this and if so would it need a new cab for fttc?

I can find the cab P150 which freinds round the corner are connected to (which also is apparently due for fttc but hasn't been upgraded yet) but not P151....strange....

TalkTalk seem to think I will get fiber on 28th July but then again a few weeks ago they said 28th June. I think they don't really know themselves.

Well whoever it is, I hope it's still planning to be done

151

Cheers I know exactly where that is.....looks lonely though doesn't it

Don't suppose you know the fate of cab 151 do you?

I believe its in the rollout plan

That's what I thought too but it's gone awfully quite round these parts......

Is phase 8a pretty much the last phase?

They are one of the main sub contractors for Openreach work.

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151

That house will get nice speeds lol

I used to cut the grass on that common :0)

The cabinet at Low Moor Road, Blackwell has been upgraded. Anyone know please whether this little cabinet at the Durdar crossroads is on BT's list ?

http://goo.gl/maps/mvD9

Hi i used the postcode from the black lion and this is what it came back with from the Dec 2011 data

LCCAR CARLISLE CA24TX {LCCAR}{P35} 0 100%

Its cabinet 35 but not in any rollout phase, it may have been added in the April 2012 data but only isps have access to that.

Many thanks for the info. We're served by the Carlisle exchange but I guess we'll have to wait for the Connecting Cumbria project to get moving to obtain speeds much above our present 2Mbps. We could have a long wait !

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Many thanks for the info. We're served by the Carlisle exchange but I guess we'll have to wait for the Connecting Cumbria project to get moving to obtain speeds much above our present 2Mbps. We could have a long wait !

The connecting Cumbria will *not* be interfering in any way with the carlisle exchange... I think it is legally forbidden from getting involved with market 1 exchanges.

Isnt carlisle market 3?

What is the OFCOM market classification?

In May 2008 Ofcom announced that they would be deregulating 70% of the UK's broadband market. The full 115 page document outlining the reasoning and methodology can be found here (Mirrored here).

Within this document Ofcom has defined four classifications to be applied to exchange areas (see page 32). These are:

�Market 1 - Exchanges where the incumbent operator (BT Wholesale) is the only provider of broadband services
�Market 2 - Exchanges where two or three operators provided broadband services (including BT)
�Market 3 - Exchanges where four or more operators provided broadband services
�Hull area - Exchanges in Hull are served only by KC (Kingston)

The Market 3 exchanges are the ones that the deregulation applies to. Ofcom deemed that there was sufficient competition in these areas to keep prices at a reasonable level whilst also driving innovation.

Edited by omnius (Sat 07-Jul-12 09:17:08)

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Isnt carlisle market 3?

What is the OFCOM market classification?

In May 2008 Ofcom announced that they would be deregulating 70% of the UK's broadband market. The full 115 page document outlining the reasoning and methodology can be found here (Mirrored here).

Within this document Ofcom has defined four classifications to be applied to exchange areas (see page 32). These are:

�Market 1 - Exchanges where the incumbent operator (BT Wholesale) is the only provider of broadband services
�Market 2 - Exchanges where two or three operators provided broadband services (including BT)
�Market 3 - Exchanges where four or more operators provided broadband services
�Hull area - Exchanges in Hull are served only by KC (Kingston)

The Market 3 exchanges are the ones that the deregulation applies to. Ofcom deemed that there was sufficient competition in these areas to keep prices at a reasonable level whilst also driving innovation.

You are right, i meant market three, unregulated. You hit a lot of sticky issues around unlawful state aid etc.

So if BT won't upgrade the cabinet and Connecting Cumbria can't touch it sounds like we're stuffed ?

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So if BT won't upgrade the cabinet and Connecting Cumbria can't touch it sounds like we're stuffed ?

Yes, until BT come round for a second go at upgrades.

In reply to a post by gazter:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

So if BT won't upgrade the cabinet and Connecting Cumbria can't touch it sounds like we're stuffed ?

Yes, until BT come round for a second go at upgrades.

On the plus side if your getting 2 meg your doing very well, your wireing must be almost direct to exchange. My mum carnt even get 1 meg at sandsfield park so god only knows where her wireing go's to, or what state its all in.

In reply to a post by omnius:

In reply to a post by gazter:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

So if BT won't upgrade the cabinet and Connecting Cumbria can't touch it sounds like we're stuffed ?

Yes, until BT come round for a second go at upgrades.

On the plus side if your getting 2 meg your doing very well, your wireing must be almost direct to exchange. My mum carnt even get 1 meg at sandsfield park so god only knows where her wireing go's to, or what state its all in.

You have checked her connection speed at the test socket?

Okay 151 has now been upgraded quite sad at how exicted I was to see the new cab.....can't say my wife shared the same level of enthusiasm though

In reply to a post by mrmicp:

Okay 151 has now been upgraded quite sad at how exicted I was to see the new cab.....can't say my wife shared the same level of enthusiasm though

Women just dont understand, do they?

In reply to a post by gazter:

You have checked her connection speed at the test socket?

Sorry ive been away a few days, yes it was one of the first things i did when we tryied the service back then (from breathe i think it was), with the help of a very skilled cust service person we found out there was a lot on noise on the line but i couldnt tell you the figures now as it was years ago.

While we can not be sure (and openreach wont say) because of where she is on the estate and the most likey path the cables would follow back to the exchange we belive that it go's within very close proximity to two sub stations. One on the estate and the other on orton road.

I am very shocked that the cab that the main part of botcherby is connected to is not going to have FTTC can anyone tell me what area pcp129 covers? Thanks

CARLISLE CA12SW {LCCAR}{P129}
CARLISLE CA12TH {LCCAR}{P129}
CARLISLE CA12TG {LCCAR}{P129}
CARLISLE CA12TE {LCCAR}{P129}
CARLISLE CA12TA {LCCAR}{P129}

Phil

Thanks Phil

To increase the data from phil (from the post office online address finder........)

CARLISLE CA12SW {LCCAR}{P129}
Durranhill Road (3 addresses)

CARLISLE CA12TH {LCCAR}{P129}
Applewood Close (23 addresses)

CARLISLE CA12TG {LCCAR}{P129}
Broadoaks Court (20 addresses)

CARLISLE CA12TE {LCCAR}{P129}
Oakleigh Way (68 addresses)

CARLISLE CA12TA {LCCAR}{P129}
Broadoaks Grange (76 addresses)

Hope thats of help

In reply to a post by gazter:

Just seen this at my Cab, pcp82 at the carlisle exchange.....

Good news for their mid june completion date...

http://i43.tinypic.com/fn48et.jpg

Carlisle City Council are claiming that BT believe the exchange will be live in time for the Olympics.

In reply to a post by gazter:

Carlisle City Council are claiming that BT believe the exchange will be live in time for the Olympics.

Someone should tell talk talk that then, had 3 voicemails from differant people saying they could give me FTTC, when they called when i was home i told them the exchange had been put back but dont think they belived me. theres even some guy going door to door here trying to flog that lovefilm that amazon took over saying its super fast with fiber

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has any "go live" info ? TalkTalk have told me the 28th of July but I'm not sure thats true.

Cheers

MrMicP

It was reported this week but so far nothing seems to have changed, its still listed as sept on bt's where and when page so unless one of the crew throwing the switch comes on and says something then no-one knows im afraid.

I personally wouldn't take much notice of talktalk as they are pestering my mum saying they can give her it even tho they aint done her cab yet, its just the plinth.

Carlisle city canceled the fiber roll out due to it being too modern LOL

CA3 P25 outside the redfern (etterby scaur) looks good to go. The old cab is still there with a shiney new one about 5m away. That will help my current 3Mb ([censored] aluminium cable) ADSL. Again, a newish house with no smallworld, I even pestered them when they were doing the gas pipe changeovers - they were digging up all the streets near us with plenty of warning and passed smallworlds cabinets. damn them.

Dont think smallworld have any more interest in carlisle, in fact it wouldnt surprise me if they dont either sell up or pull out of carlisle altogether in a few more years.

As another poster once commented, they wouldnt even extend a duct a few meters so that a company could keep its connection when they moved to bigger premises.

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CA3 P25 outside the redfern (etterby scaur) looks good to go. The old cab is still there with a shiney new one about 5m away. That will help my current 3Mb ([censored] aluminium cable) ADSL. Again, a newish house with no smallworld, I even pestered them when they were doing the gas pipe changeovers - they were digging up all the streets near us with plenty of warning and passed smallworlds cabinets. damn them.

Is the P25 making a nice humming noise yet? I walked past it earlier on in the week but heard nothing. If i thinking of where you live at, I am on the same estate, and I am fed up of getting the smallworld leaflets through the door. Who are you currently with for getting 3Mb speeds, I am with sky and my sync speed is 8Mb, which was the same speed when I was with O2

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Carlisle city canceled the fiber roll out due to it being too modern LOL

Dont be stupid, carlisle city council have nothing to do with it. They are the planning authority, so those sitting of cabinets that need permission come on their radar.

I think its more likely that most of the people working on it have been sent to the flooded area's to make repairs

See where i live if we dont get a FTTC we will be as slow as the dark ages, we got let down when the cable company went bust we got nowt. 3G speeds are ridiculous and i really doubt that we will be enrolled in the first phase of the FTTC rollout. If you are connecting a city to something new why not offer it to the full of the city instead of parts [censored] me off

Theres still a good chance you will have yours done at a later date as BT do seem to be going back to towns/citys theve already done and are putting more in. Mind you they still havnt completed the rollout here in carlisle as they still seem to be laying the tubeing they use for the fiber (drove past one of the big lorrys with a masive roll of tubeing being installed into a manhole cover at the top of the hill on moorhouse road, and a smaller van installing stuff into a cab on orton road).

I suspect tho even bt might be thinking that we do so much at our own risk then see what the takeup of 4G is then maby put a cab in the high takeup areas (this is a company that put there fttc in cabled areas with faster speeds available)

Edited by omnius (Mon 30-Jul-12 20:10:07)

They are having huge issues caused by the Sainsburys development. An engineer told me they have teams doing nightshifts trying to get it all up. The problem seems to be getting the actual fibre down past caldewgate.

shame no-one thought to put some new trunking in when they had the whole section dug up, mind you watching them install a new cab next to mcvities dispatch and transferring all the connections from the old one next to the pub to that new cab was fascinating.

So do you know if the exchange itself is ready yet? i know its a bit mean but if it is they could enable the cabs that are ready that don't use that section of the city for routeing

The OpenReach "Superfast broadband when and where" has it as "coming soon".

When the exchange is enabled they dont activate all the CABs - it is a phased rollout amongst the CABs so there is still some waiting. All the CABs do not have to be connected for the exchange to accept orders.

My exchange is also "coming soon" but I ordered BT Infinity 2 yesterday - the BT ADSL Checker said it was available!

Are you based in Carlisle? If so where abouts?

Do we know if there is any cabs still waiting to be installed?

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Are you based in Carlisle? If so where abouts?

No - Ashington, Northumberland.

I thought it was in my signature but had a look and it isnt

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Do we know if there is any cabs still waiting to be installed?

Two that i know of unless theve fitted the underground system. Altho i think thats FttP

There is 2 cabs near me that are installed but are not humming with power yet. I don't know of they have power to them or if they are just not switched in yet....

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There is 2 cabs near me that are installed but are not humming with power yet. I don't know of they have power to them or if they are just not switched in yet....

Nah think they are just humming of dog wee

Drove past stanwix bank this evening and where the fibre cab is, its all dug up so by looks of it they are only just either starting to connect power to the cab's or connecting them to the copper pcp

Phil

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Drove past stanwix bank this evening and where the fibre cab is, its all dug up so by looks of it they are only just either starting to connect power to the cab's or connecting them to the copper pcp

Phil

It looks like it. It has been like that all over the city for the last two weeks, many of the FTTC cabs have had trenches dug next to them. Even the ones i thought already had a current. . It sometimes seems like 10% of all the road traffic is BT vans... They're everywhere. If it is the case though that they still had this amount of work to do, the claims that completion was imminent (a month ago) was poppycock.

I suspect it will go live in the next couple of weeks.

Ive a nasty feeling its going to be pushed back again

I think it will be September sometime, like it says on the website, although, I did a BT Wholesale address checker and it showed up with 'Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th September 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 80 Mbps and upstream line speed of 20 Mbps.' which is something new, however this does not show up on the line checker, weird. (If any of you want to do the same to see if you get the same result, you can try it here 'here')

In reply to a post by OpTicWally:

I think it will be September sometime, like it says on the website, although, I did a BT Wholesale address checker and it showed up with 'Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th September 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 80 Mbps and upstream line speed of 20 Mbps.' which is something new, however this does not show up on the line checker, weird. (If any of you want to do the same to see if you get the same result, you can try it here 'here')

The website doesnt mean much. All exchanges intended to be completed for June that werent were automatically rolled forward to the September deadline. There are between half a dozen and a dozen exchanges that are enabled every week. Every single one of them will have a September completion date.

Just tried the BT website and my Carlisle postcode said it is available. Called up BT and yep, it is... Ordered and engineer coming out on Monday September 3rd. (Earliest available date they offered)...

Not long to wait now then... Finally!

(up on Windsor Park,btw)

In reply to a post by BalexB:

Just tried the BT website and my Carlisle postcode said it is available. Called up BT and yep, it is... Ordered and engineer coming out on Monday September 3rd. (Earliest available date they offered)...

Not long to wait now then... Finally!

(up on Windsor Park,btw)

Yes, just checked a friend who lives on wolsty close, it says 'available now', mine not though. sod.

Great news that cabs are starting to be enabled, hopefully mine wont be far behind, there's 2 bt and a northern electric van sitting in front of our fiber cab right now.

Sooooooo next question is have sky got the ball rolling already and are able to supply us or will i be another to go to bt...............

ok heres one for you, the checker says nothing about fttc at our postcode BUT the house opposite which is run off the same pole says 30th sept.

Is there anyone i can contact to double check this? oh the postcodes are ca1 3nz (our block), ca1 3lw (the house opposite) both are run off cab 93

Also theres nothing listed for my phone number about fttc (dont know the folk over the road well enough to ask)

Why not go over and ask your neighbour, as for your number its likely that you are on full sky llu so its not a BT number?

Edited by deleted (Tue 14-Aug-12 18:38:16)

no we have a bt line, when the house was built sky wouldnt touch us for connection so we had to go with bt for the land line (with a 12 month min term) but took sky for the bb (had major issues with bt bb in the past) to be fair we have never had a problem with the line and the price is fair for the amount of calls we make so we never moved it.

like i said we know them to say hi to but not enough to ask for there phone number

Edited by omnius (Tue 14-Aug-12 18:55:15)

In reply to a post by omnius:

ok heres one for you, the checker says nothing about fttc at our postcode BUT the house opposite which is run off the same pole says 30th sept.

Is there anyone i can contact to double check this? oh the postcodes are ca1 3nz (our block), ca1 3lw (the house opposite) both are run off cab 93

Also theres nothing listed for my phone number about fttc (dont know the folk over the road well enough to ask)

Which checker is this? If it's the one on the BT website, it says nothing about it for me either.

http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome

Postcode checker and number checker say nothing, postcode for other houses on street give speed est and a date of 30th sept

checked my mums as well, number says nothing, postcode says 55meg end of sept

In reply to a post by omnius:

no we have a bt line, when the house was built sky wouldnt touch us for connection so we had to go with bt for the land line (with a 12 month min term) but took sky for the bb (had major issues with bt bb in the past) to be fair we have never had a problem with the line and the price is fair for the amount of calls we make so we never moved it.

like i said we know them to say hi to but not enough to ask for there phone number

That's exactly the same boat I'm in. When I first moved up near garlands BT couldn't supply broadband because they lay fibre and at the time you couldn't get BB over fibre. So they layed copper but everyone I know on our estate had problems trying to get BB as BT said it wasn't possible. It took a while and a lot of phone calls but we eventually got it. That was a good few years ago but even now BT say I won't be able to get super fast fibre although the cab has been installed and talk talk say I can get it (that's who I'm currently with) in fact BT told me not to leave talk talk as I would have problems getting fibre from BT.

In reply to a post by omnius:

http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome

Postcode checker and number checker say nothing, postcode for other houses on street give speed est and a date of 30th sept

checked my mums as well, number says nothing, postcode says 55meg end of sept

You'd have to ring and ask then I think :/
Weird how the postcode checkers not saying it's coming though, seems to say it is for everyone else

My post code is showing to be enabled by 30th Sept , but can only order with by if take a new line ,

I emailed the "Network Investment Customer Engagement Team" yesterday asking about the cab im connected to not showing up, got a very nice reply from them explaining everything and also telling me that cab in question might be relesed early due to everything being completed. This afternoon the BT checker started showing......

For Telephone Number 01228****** on Exchange CARLISLE

Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial test on your line indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 1Mbps. However due to the length of your line the 1Mbps service may require an engineer visit who will, where possible, supply the broadband service.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 2.5Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 1.5Mbps and 5Mbps.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL2+ broadband line speed of 3.5Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 2.5Mbps and 4.5Mbps. Our test also indicates that your line could support an estimated ADSL 2+ Annex-M broadband upstream line speed of 500Kbps and downstream line speed of 3.5Mbps; typically the downstream speed would range between 2.5Mbps and 4.5Mbps.

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th September 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 72.1Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.

The actual stable line speed supportable will be determined during the first 10 days of use. This speed may change over time, to ensure line stability is maintained.

If you decide to place an order, a further test will be performed to confirm if your line is suitable for the service you wish to purchase.

Thank you for your interest.

Please note that dates and exchanges are indicative and subject to change.
Please note that postcode and address check results are indicative only. Most accurate results can be obtained from a telephone number check.

Note: If you already have a Broadband service enabled on this line and you want to switch service providers, you will need to contact both your current provider and your new provider to get your service changed over new and existing service provider to have this service transferred.

Also provision of some services may not be allowed due to product withdrawal, please contact your service provider for further details.

That is a huge speed upgrade

What was email address you used?

[email protected]

I am gutted emailed them and I received a very quick reply

"Thank-you for your enquiry about fibre broadband in Carlisle. You are connected to telephony cabinet LC/CAR 25, which with regards to fibre broadband, is still in its build phase. We have experienced duct blockages in Warwick Road Etterby Scaur and Kingmoor Road areas, to name a few, which has slowed down the installation of the main fibre optic cable. The project manager has informed me that we are hoping to get this cabinet ready to accept orders between mid and late October �12.
I�m sorry to bring you this news, but unfortunately when we get blockages it can have an adverse effect on our published roll-out plans."

Phil

I've dropped them an e-mail just now. Will be interesting to see what they say.

Got a very nice reply from them which has put me in a good mood, haha.

Dear Mr Gordon,

You are connected to cabinet LC/CAR 93.
We have completed the build and commissioning of this cabinet and it will be released to take orders in the next few days.
Please try to order again early next week, if there are still problems, please reply to this e-mail.

Regards
Tony Franklin

thats the guy who answered me

Thank you for your detailed e-mail.

I can confirm that you are connected to Cab 93 on Carlisle Exchange. Carlisle 93 is due to Go � Live at the end of September, the build work for your cabinet has been completed, so we don�t foresee any problems with the date moving backwards.

(It may be worth checking it on a weekly basis, in case we release it early)

not the full email

you must be down the road from me

Edited by omnius (Fri 17-Aug-12 18:58:05)

In reply to a post by omnius:

thats the guy who answered me

Thank you for your detailed e-mail.

I can confirm that you are connected to Cab 93 on Carlisle Exchange. Carlisle 93 is due to Go � Live at the end of September, the build work for your cabinet has been completed, so we don�t foresee any problems with the date moving backwards.

(It may be worth checking it on a weekly basis, in case we release it early)

not the full email

you must be down the road from me

Oh, how weird I thought no one around here would bother with anything like this, haha!

I too emailed them and got a prompt reply......

"You are connected to Carlisle Cab LC/CAR 151. This cab is currently being delayed due to problems that the electricity company and our contractors are having supplying mains to the cabinet.

However, once the difficulties are overcome, we are expecting this cabinet to be ready for orders around Mid to Late October.

Apologies for the delay"

Oh yeah and it was Tony Franklin that replied, bet that poor man is getting inundated.....

Edited by deleted (Mon 20-Aug-12 11:11:32)

Carlisle is now live!!!

CA3 cab is still silent (redfern) so no power to that one yet.

Did you manage to place an order? Still saying 30th September for me even though my cabs supposed to be complete

Theres an openreach van up there at the moment....

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

CA3 cab is still silent (redfern) so no power to that one yet.

Red fern cab is 25

"Thank-you for your enquiry about fibre broadband in Carlisle. You are connected to telephony cabinet LC/CAR 25, which with regards to fibre broadband, is still in its build phase. We have experienced duct blockages in Warwick Road Etterby Scaur and Kingmoor Road areas, to name a few, which has slowed down the installation of the main fibre optic cable. The project manager has informed me that we are hoping to get this cabinet ready to accept orders between mid and late October �12.

This man must have blisters on his fingers as i emailed them too and this was the prompt response i got

With a project as large and complex as the roll out of fibre broadband it would be impossible to enable all cabinets at the same time.

This is why we are rolling out in a number of phases.

Your cab is currently part of phase 10a which is scheduled to go live from March �13. However, you must understand that this is subject to change if problems are found within the locality such as collapsed ductwork, local objections.



Regards

Tony Franklin
Network Investment Customer Engagement

SO next year it is for me, might be cheaper on the plus side lol

Hi All

Thread started in Feb and quite long so suggest a Part Two be started with a link to this thread

Closed for refurbishments..