Will many of us have FTTP by the end of march?

Lots of towns are supposedly getting upgraded, here we have mixed FTTC/P but i've seen little sign of any FTTP, what's going on?

FTTP has changed. in that they are going to offer it to anyone who's cabinet is connected. they have conducted trials of the service , and we are just waiting on the detail.

According to Openreach, yes, there's a bunch due in march, and another bunch due in July. take the dates with a pinch of salt.

in some areas due by march, they are live. others have a shell cabinet up, but no power etc.

its all different all over.

Its changed, but we are still expecting some FTTP roll-out, i.e. it will not all be on-demand.

FTTC generally comes first, FTTP after due to the extra work getting fibre to pass each property.

Ours is due end of March. I thought they were getting close when I saw an engineer with a laptop plugged into a cabinet last week. Then this morning I came across a contractor burying cables for them. meanwhile four more cabinets are awaiting approval because they are in a conversation zone. Two have been rejected once already.

Really it's anyone's guess. It'll arrive when it arrives

Our fttp rollout is delayed because they now have to unbung some of the collapsed/clogged ducting between the poles in the village. I think most of the preliminary tubing has been done, but they will have to return to complete it. Don't know how far they are with blowing the fibre in - they are coming about 8 or 9 miles from the serving exchange (which is not the local exchange). Two villages closer to town are getting fttc , they are due live end of March

But in areas without an actual FTTP rollout, those of us on EO lines will completely be left out as we don't have a cabinet so can't use the on demand service.

In the superfast Cornwall program with the EO lines, BT is currently developing a soultion which has not yet been revealed.

This is taken from the FAQ on the superfast cornwall site.

You may be on an 'exchange only' line one that is connected directly to the telephone exchange, without an intervening green roadside cabinet. Regulations do not currently allow the technology used to deliver superfast broadband from the cabinets to be used in the exchanges. However, we are in the process of developing solutions for these exchange only lines

Its likely to be a fibre soultion both EO lines can be short and long, so its going to be a interesting soultion to the problem.

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In reply to a post by Andrue:

... meanwhile four more cabinets are awaiting approval because they are in a conversation zone.

That's usually the case with phone cabinets. .

I think in reality that it will be probably 3-5 years before we start to notice any major effects of the roll out of FTTP. I think that due to the cost involved it will be financially impossible to start a mass roll out, but I do believe that it will be steady very constant implementation over a very assiduous phased schedule.

In reply to a post by ccxo:

In the superfast Cornwall program with the EO lines, BT is currently developing a soultion which has not yet been revealed.

This is taken from the FAQ on the superfast cornwall site.

You may be on an 'exchange only' line one that is connected directly to the telephone exchange, without an intervening green roadside cabinet. Regulations do not currently allow the technology used to deliver superfast broadband from the cabinets to be used in the exchanges. However, we are in the process of developing solutions for these exchange only lines

Its likely to be a fibre soultion both EO lines can be short and long, so its going to be a interesting soultion to the problem.

Surely this only relates to FTTC connections, Offcom have rules against VDSL equipment in the exchanges because of possible cross talk issues but this isn't the case with FTTP and fibre direct from the exchange to customer premises (ethernet gateways to business) have been around for years.

Is there anything different on the BT side of an FTTP connection compared to standard fibre deployment that would stop them being used in EO rollouts?

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Its changed, but we are still expecting some FTTP roll-out, i.e. it will not all be on-demand.

FTTC generally comes first, FTTP after due to the extra work getting fibre to pass each property.

What im asking about is those of us in areas with FTTP/C, i've seen cabs pop up for those getting FTTC, what about us waiting on pure FTTP, we have no sign of work or a new cab, are we just going to be forgotten or delayed well past march?

I thought we were the lucky ones getting FTTP in our area but now it's starting to feel like the opposite, id rather have a new cab with FTTC if it meant i could get it sooner, the benefit of one over the other isn't important at the moment, i would be more than happy to be stuck with 40 or 80 meg for the next 5 years if it meant i could order by the end of this month.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by Andrue:

... meanwhile four more cabinets are awaiting approval because they are in a conversation zone.

That's usually the case with phone cabinets. .

Hur hur hur

There is no cab for FTTP, usually just passive kit in the pavement chambers

Maybe the desire to abandon large exchange buildings at some point

In reply to a post by ccxo:

In the superfast Cornwall program with the EO lines, BT is currently developing a soultion which has not yet been revealed.

This is taken from the FAQ on the superfast cornwall site.

You may be on an 'exchange only' line one that is connected directly to the telephone exchange, without an intervening green roadside cabinet. Regulations do not currently allow the technology used to deliver superfast broadband from the cabinets to be used in the exchanges. However, we are in the process of developing solutions for these exchange only lines

Its likely to be a fibre soultion both EO lines can be short and long, so its going to be a interesting soultion to the problem.

I am surprised BT has not made a statement but we are trialing a FTTC service for EO lines by building the cab right next to the exchange.... this has been done in a few remote exchanges

Which will be fine for short lines but no use for long ones. There seem to be both.

I am surprised BT has not made a statement but we are trialing a FTTC service for EO lines by building the cab right next to the exchange....

Which will help those on short EO lines but not the many on much longer lines. I live on a development of 75 properties in central London, all with 2+km EO lines. Hyperoptic have quoted for a fibre connection to the development but the install cost and annual maintenance costs, all of whch are on top of the charges paid by the end user, are just too much to make it viable.