Chrysalis, can you come back on topic please.

well I was advising you how to avoid the problem. Since the widespread use of rapidshare is copyright content then is logical isps will throttle it.

Also rapidshare are throttling free users downloads which suggests they have issues with capacity somewhere.

clearly my advise doesnt interest you so I wont say anything else now on this topic.

Hmm, OK, first, I already answered you. Second, where did I ask for advise on how to avoid the problem. I can't see why your getting huffy and defensive but whatever.

The purpose of this thread is to determine who is to blame for the slow speed, rapidshare or my ISP.

Anyway, slow speeds on BT and Zen (VDSL), full speed on BE (ADSL). If anyone on a different ISP to those can try I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks.

I'm not sure - years ago, when I used Easynews they had a tool to determine your routing and the ability to force a different routing if needed.

What does a traceroute to their upload server look like?

Hmm, today, my pings have doubled after the first few hops and throughput is slightly lower by 0.3Mbps. Interleaving is still off and IP Profile is the same though.

Not sure what rapidshare's upload server address is, here is a tracert to their website though:

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert rapidshare.com

Tracing route to rapidshare.com [195.122.131.13]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.254
  2     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.155.227
  3     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.155.142
  4    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  213.120.161.110
  5    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  217.32.26.26
  6    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  217.32.26.178
  7    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  acc1-10GigE-0-1-0-6.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.248.94]
  8    21 ms    24 ms    23 ms  core1-te0-13-0-4.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.248.8]
  9    21 ms    21 ms    21 ms  transit2-xe11-0-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.200.122]
 10    21 ms    21 ms    20 ms  t2c4-xe-10-1-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.37]
 11    24 ms    23 ms    23 ms  xe-8-0-0.edge3.London2.Level3.net [212.187.201.133]
 12    25 ms    21 ms    31 ms  ae-32-52.ebr2.London2.Level3.net [4.68.117.62]
 13    22 ms    22 ms    21 ms  ae-3-3.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.141.189]
 14    24 ms    21 ms    21 ms  vlan102.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.143.90]
 15    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  ae-23-23.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.148.194]
 16    31 ms    42 ms    31 ms  ae-92-92.csw4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.30]
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 18    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  rapidshare.com [195.122.131.13]

Trace complete.

Also a saved bbc tracert from before today:

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.254
  2     5 ms     5 ms     5 ms  213.120.155.227
  3     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.155.158
  4     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.161.18
  5     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  217.32.26.46
  6     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  217.32.26.182
  7     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  acc2-10GigE-0-7-0-4.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.248.198]
  8    13 ms    11 ms    11 ms  core2-te0-13-0-4.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.248.138]
  9    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  peer2-xe9-1-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.114]
 10    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  194.74.65.42
 11    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  212.58.238.153
 12    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  virtual-vip-231.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131]


Trace complete.

And what I get today:

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.254
  2     5 ms     6 ms     5 ms  213.120.155.227
  3    21 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.155.158
  4    16 ms    13 ms    14 ms  213.120.161.110
  5    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  217.32.26.26
  6    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  217.32.26.178
  7    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  acc1-10Gige-0-5-0-4.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.248.96]
  8    31 ms    23 ms    23 ms  core1-te0-3-0-2.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.248.16]
  9    28 ms    20 ms    20 ms  peer2-xe2-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.106]
 10    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  194.74.65.42
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    23 ms    22 ms    23 ms  ae1.er01.rbsov.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.46]
 13    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  132.185.255.134
 14    21 ms    21 ms    21 ms  212.58.241.131

Trace complete.

Having them in Germany gives me an idea - I'll send you a PM.

Thanks, replied.

Yesterdays increased latency after the first few hops has cleared up, still slow upload speed though so probably not related.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.254
  2     5 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.155.227
  3     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.155.158
  4     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.161.106
  5     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  217.32.26.58
  6     7 ms     7 ms     6 ms  217.32.26.182
  7     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  acc2-10GigE-0-0-0-4.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.248.194]
  8    15 ms    11 ms    11 ms  core2-te0-2-5-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.248.130]
  9    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  peer2-xe10-1-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.116]
 10    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  194.74.65.42
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  ae1.er01.rbsov.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.46]
 13    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  132.185.255.134
 14    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  212.58.241.131

Trace complete.


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert rapidshare.com

Tracing route to rapidshare.com [195.122.131.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.254
  2     5 ms     5 ms     6 ms  213.120.155.227
  3     5 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.155.158
  4     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  213.120.161.18
  5     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  217.32.26.58
  6     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  217.32.26.182
  7     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  acc2-10GigE-0-5-0-4.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.248.224]
  8    19 ms    11 ms    11 ms  core2-te0-3-0-3.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.248.150]
  9    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  transit2-xe2-1-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.200.174]
 10    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  t2c4-xe-9-0-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.49]
 11    36 ms    10 ms    10 ms  xe-8-0-0.edge4.London2.Level3.net [212.187.192.61]
 12    13 ms    17 ms    18 ms  ae-32-56.ebr2.London2.Level3.net [4.68.117.190]
 13    11 ms    11 ms    12 ms  ae-3-3.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.141.189]
 14    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  vlan102.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.143.90]
 15    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  ae-21-21.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.148.186]
 16    28 ms    24 ms    24 ms  ae-62-62.csw1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.18]
 17    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  ae-11-60.car1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.154.3]
 18    21 ms    20 ms    20 ms  rapidshare.com [195.122.131.10]

Trace complete.