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Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Sat 17-Mar-12 17:14:26
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FTTC. cleckheaton


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took a trip into town and it looks like it's finally happening, shiny green cabs are poping up all over cleckheaton. they're even doing work at the top of the road down from where i live [virgin media van spotted there the other day] now the worrying bit.... as it's 2 months away from going live. and the works just recent i'm hopefully assuming they have'nt got around to all the cabs yet, do they do them all in one go? assuming this is the cabinet i'm connected to, as it's the one closest to me

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Liversedge,+WF15+8HH...


also somewhere on these forums i found a thread detailing all postcodes cabs that are planned for fibre install.
could someone point me to it as i've forgotten where it is.
named pcp to postcode report
[img=http://s14.postimage.org/ruyn489ul/fibre_plan.jpg]

PS GMAN99, any movement round yeadon yet? if you're reading this.

Edited by creakycopperline (Sat 17-Mar-12 17:26:45)

Standard User mirceaxj
(newbie) Sat 17-Mar-12 18:10:46
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
Check this out....

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_m5Gbpvm--mZDQ0Njgw...
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 17-Mar-12 19:40:57
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
You seem to be pointing at WF158HH.

If so, that is cabinet 27. The cabinet you gave us a picture of looks to me more like Virgin Media. You also reported Virgin Media vans - these will be nothing whatsoever to do with Openreach FTTC.

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Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Sat 17-Mar-12 20:43:19
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
how did you know it's number? i can't even find out which one i'm connected to. i'm assuming it's my cab because it's the closest one to my street. the virgin media van was parked infront of this green cabinet in the picture on the corner, where there is now an excavation hole. and where in the google map image where the black and white sign post sits there is now a narrow but taller cabinet, on the opposite side you'll
see 2 more cabs, i've seen VM engineers working on these regularly, but wouldn't he park on the right hand
side if this was the case?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=liversedge&hl=en&ll=...


or could i be connected to these two?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Liversedge,+WF15+8HH...

Edited by creakycopperline (Sat 17-Mar-12 20:46:07)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 17-Mar-12 21:41:32
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
Virgin Media has nothing to do with the Openreach FTTC roll-out

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Sat 17-Mar-12 21:51:02
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
did you read the bit about the other cabs? on the right.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 17-Mar-12 21:58:32
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
If WF158HH is your postcode, which is the line your pointer was at, then the P27 is the phone cabinet number. That's what you need to find. It should be on it.

In your first link this time, the one on the corner by the white signpost is BT. Rotating, the pair near the speed camera, the small one is VM, and I think the big one is as well.

Rotating some more I see one on the opposite corner to the signpost. That looks like another small VM.

VM has lots of small cabinets like that in an area, served from a big one. BT has far fewer in an area.

Have a look at the pics I have on this page. In your second link this time, the small green one is BT phone, the dark green with the V-top I think is Virgin and nothing to do with it.

BT numbers are 1, 2 or 3 digits. Only one 4-digit one known about, on Trafford Park, Manchester. VM cabinet numbers are many digits long wherever I have seen them.

You don't seem to have picked up on what I said about Virgin. They will not be working on the BT FTTC, though they may be installing or upgrading VM Cable. Although BT use sub-contractors for a lot of the work, I'm sure they wouldn't use their biggest direct competitor to install critical systems.

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Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Sat 17-Mar-12 23:25:33
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Rotating, the pair near the speed camera, the small one is VM, and I think the big one is as well.
b*cat nods in agreement.

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Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Sat 17-Mar-12 23:40:23
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
how did you know it's number? i can't even find out which one i'm connected to.
In your initial post, you provided a link --
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Liversedge,+WF15+8HH...
Assuming WF15 8HH is your postcode (as disclosed by that link), then searching the December 2011 BT document for that postcode produces this line --
MYCLE,CLECKHEATON,WF158HH,{MYCLE}{P27},0,100%,,,,
The P27 indicates that your line is connected via PCP number 27.

Interestingly (to me), the null fields that follow the "100%" indicate that, as of last December, the cabinet number 27 was not in any plans to be part of the fibre deployment. frown

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 18-Mar-12 00:09:55
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: burakkucat] [link to this post]
 
Damn!

I didn't spot that the link he gave was to the April 2011 spreadsheet frown.

You're right of course. No longer scheduled.

Despite being asked a few times, he hasn't yet confirmed that is his postcode frown.

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Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Sun 18-Mar-12 01:03:53
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Despite being asked a few times, he hasn't yet confirmed that is his postcode frown .
We both know that there is only so much that one can do to assist someone else . . . wink

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Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Sun 18-Mar-12 14:04:12
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: burakkucat] [link to this post]
 
sorry, yes wf158hh is my postcode.
if it's not in any upgrade plans, how come it says yes?

MYCLE,CLECKHEATON,WF158HH,{MYCLE}{p27},0,100,5.51,6b,Yes,FTTC

Edited by creakycopperline (Sun 18-Mar-12 14:17:04)

Standard User ccxo
(committed) Sun 18-Mar-12 14:36:16
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
Its the April 2011 spreadsheet that you have that data from, the December 2011 one is blank for you postcode having FTTC.

As mentioned already by burakkucat and Robert.

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Edited by ccxo (Sun 18-Mar-12 14:37:38)

Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Sun 18-Mar-12 21:24:28
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Well thanks for nothing openreach, guess they didn't like my part of the area, digital divide next stop i suppose,
CB is right. postcode lottery.
Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Sun 18-Mar-12 23:38:26
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by creakycopperline:
Well thanks for nothing openreach, guess they didn't like my part of the area, digital divide next stop i suppose,
CB is right. postcode lottery.
It could be that, due to circumstances, your particular area has just been postponed to a later date.

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Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Mon 19-Mar-12 17:40:54
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
a couple of corrections that's not my cabinet, plus the fibre cab on the corner is next to the black and white sign post, not replacing it.

this the one i'm connected to, spotted the number walking along the path.

http://postimage.org/image/fn7iu4w0h/
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 19-Mar-12 22:54:15
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
smile
You really are confused smile.

The link you just gave us appears to be the same cabinet as the one on this earlier link:-
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Liversedge,+WF15+8HH...

You also in the same earlier post gave another link:-
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=liversedge&hl=en&ll=...

which on being clicked shows a signpost, I assume the one you are calling the "black and white" one.

The cabinet next to that is a modern BT PCP, (phone cabinet). It is not a fibre cabinet.

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Edited by RobertoS (Mon 19-Mar-12 22:55:44)

Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Tue 20-Mar-12 00:16:39
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
that's because the cab i thought i was connected to, was wrong, the one you said was a VM one ie the first picture i showed, not the one next to the sign post. it has a cabletel brand on the access hatch infront of it

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=wf158hh&ll=53.716362...

guess i'll have to take pics to show you.
Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Tue 20-Mar-12 00:19:03
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
smile
You really are confused smile.

The link you just gave us appears to be the same cabinet as the one on this earlier link:-
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Liversedge,+WF15+8HH...

You also in the same earlier post gave another link:-
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=liversedge&hl=en&ll=...

which on being clicked shows a signpost, I assume the one you are calling the "black and white" one.

The cabinet next to that is a modern BT PCP, (phone cabinet). It is not a fibre cabinet.

the googlemaps image is from 2009, thats why you can't see the fibre cabinet.
Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Tue 20-Mar-12 00:19:19
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton *DELETED*


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 20-Mar-12 00:50:55
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
?
I don't know what you are trying to tell me. In your previous post you called the cabinet by the signpost a fibre cab. It isn't. But it is a BT cab, not VM.

The one in this latest link looks like a VM cab, but I haven't gone hunting round rotating your earlier posts to see where it is, if it is on those pictures.

It's all totally irrelevant anyway. Your cabinet is not scheduled for FTTC. But there is a chance, from what you say, that you may be able to get Virgin Cable, either now or soon. That's a completely different technology and does not use your existing phone line. It's still not fibre to the home though.

Virgin cable has a big cabinet somewhere, similar to the BT Fibre cabs, and lots of those smaller ones. It is fibre to the big cab, and coax cable from there to the small ones and from them to the home. Do you have small circular holes in the pavement against the property boundaries?

I don't think more pictures would add anything useful to the information we have already.

(Edit - see TMCR's following post. I'd forgotten that some areas can have these triangular holes).

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Edited by RobertoS (Tue 20-Mar-12 07:40:16)

Standard User TMCR
(regular) Tue 20-Mar-12 02:13:51
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
It was many years ago that Bradford Cable, who then became Yorkshire Cable, and so on until Virgin, put the street ducting in. These terminated on the pavement outside each property in a small triangular shaped hole with a plastic triangular cap fitted flush with the pavement level.
If the cap was removed you could see down a green tube, these tubes went back to the cabinets to make the cable connections.
If you have a duct outside the house, you can have cable from Virgin (in theory). If there's no duct, you cannot be connected.
Always worth checking with neighbours to see if they have cable, even if Virgin say no.

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Standard User creakycopperline
(newbie) Sat 24-Mar-12 16:09:54
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: TMCR] [link to this post]
 
Thanks... i'll have a check. but i'm sure i won't be connected, two things that baffle me 1. we have virgin media cabs all over the place yet they are telegraph posts attached to every house, and i don't know a single person in the area who is connected to virgin media. unless it's just those who are on the main road, the 2nd one is why is Openreach intentionally leaving some cabs out? seems like half a job to me, or did we do something to upset them? or is it because we're sorrounded by VM? just an update the barriers around the new cabinets have gone. not sure if they are going to start work on any other cabinets because it's not supposed to go live until june.

nope ,, no triangular holes.

Edited by creakycopperline (Sat 24-Mar-12 22:50:08)

Standard User creakycopperline
(learned) Mon 02-Apr-12 17:36:14
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
Thought i would update that picture. here's what it looks like now.

http://i41.tinypic.com/jttr9k.jpg

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Edited by creakycopperline (Mon 02-Apr-12 17:38:42)

Standard User Ribble
(committed) Mon 02-Apr-12 19:50:36
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
Yeh, thats an Openreach Fibre Cabinet on the right.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 01-Jun-12 12:59:46
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: Ribble] [link to this post]
 
did you manage to find out if you are FTTC enabled as i have checked the sheet i am connected to CAB P29, and it stays exchange is due to be active today

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/MYCLE

SAU_ID - MYCLE

Name - CLECKHEATON

SAU_NODE_ID - {MYCLE}{P29}

Exchange Only Flag - 0

Percent Lines - 100%

Uplift - 6.26

Phase - 8a

Deployed - Yes

FTTC or FTTP - FTTC

Thanks
Standard User creakycopperline
(regular) Sun 03-Jun-12 01:52:09
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
I have checked my line and it says it's availible now.

[IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/eitwt2.jpg[/IMG

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Edited by creakycopperline (Sun 03-Jun-12 01:54:58)

Standard User Zadeks
(experienced) Sun 03-Jun-12 09:27:18
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


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1st June is just a holding date.
Standard User idarkside
(newbie) Sun 03-Jun-12 19:40:43
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
hmm i dont live far from u but i get a differant answer crazy

http://i47.tinypic.com/21ccyhh.png

im quite confused by this

i am however using my postcode and door number to search as my transfer to BT is in progress

crazy

Edited by idarkside (Sun 03-Jun-12 19:42:51)

Standard User creakycopperline
(regular) Mon 04-Jun-12 21:39:03
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[re: idarkside] [link to this post]
 
Holding date? by the way i rang them up today, and was told it would be 26 pound rather than 24 we're paying now. despite the fact they said it would be the same when we joined BT in january.

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Standard User idarkside
(newbie) Mon 04-Jun-12 22:45:22
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
A holding date is an Estimated date of activation, i dont my cabinet hasnt even been activated yet but my holding date says this month so time will tell i suppose,

i know im not far from you though as im cabinet p29 and live in WF15 connected to the cleckheaton exchange so i will play the waiting game also for a x6 uplift i wouldnt quarrel over £2 smile
Standard User creakycopperline
(regular) Tue 05-Jun-12 00:09:14
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[re: idarkside] [link to this post]
 
p29 is that next to clough lane?

[URL=http://www.s
Standard User idarkside
(newbie) Tue 05-Jun-12 19:09:47
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
you know im not entirly sure where my cab is tbh frown
Standard User creakycopperline
(regular) Wed 06-Jun-12 14:19:38
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: idarkside] [link to this post]
 
Rang them today, they're coming next wednesday to install, fingers crossed.

[URL=http://www.s
Standard User idarkside
(newbie) Wed 06-Jun-12 16:27:23
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
well i can only hope lol

im using multiple data sources at the moment

http://www.openreach-communications.co.uk/superfast/...
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/MYCLE
http://fttc-check.alc.im/

hopefully mine is soon

laugh lol
Standard User creakycopperline
(regular) Wed 06-Jun-12 18:30:20
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: idarkside] [link to this post]
 
Cleckheaton has jumped from coming soon to accepting orders, been keeping an eye out for your cab as i've been out in town. can't seem to find it.

[URL=http://www.s
Standard User idarkside
(newbie) Thu 07-Jun-12 06:16:58
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
when i check the openreach where and when it says coming soon when i check it

where did you get the accepting orders from please? so i can use the info against bt lol



Openreach - http://i48.tinypic.com/1z6sea0.png

thanks
Standard User kitcat
(member) Thu 07-Jun-12 09:17:05
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: idarkside] [link to this post]
 
Shows on the accepting order spreardsheet on the Openreach site.http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/
Look in the excel sheet.
Standard User creakycopperline
(regular) Thu 07-Jun-12 10:09:51
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: kitcat] [link to this post]
 
You live in a golf club?

https://twitter.com/#!/Openreach_news

[URL=http://www.s

Edited by creakycopperline (Thu 07-Jun-12 10:13:13)

Standard User idarkside
(newbie) Thu 07-Jun-12 15:51:50
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
apparently after arguing with 4 differant call centers and getting through to a uk call center it appears they have connected a few cabs to the exchange and are now testing them, once they are satisfied with the results they will connect the rest of the cabs which is unfortunate for me lol
Standard User idarkside
(newbie) Sat 09-Jun-12 14:52:22
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: idarkside] [link to this post]
 
finally found both cab P29 and the fibre cab there on 3rd avenue smile
Standard User creakycopperline
(regular) Thu 14-Jun-12 22:07:14
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: idarkside] [link to this post]
 
the golf club is connected to that cab? it's miles away, surely not.

[URL=http://www.s
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 22-Jun-12 18:48:11
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[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
any one connected to the cleckheatone exchange got their FTTC up and running?
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 22-Jun-12 19:06:33
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[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
Yes WF15 I was connected on Wednesday seems ok so far its a bit erratic speedwise but its still in the 10 days.
BT say 56 here and most of the time more, but do notice slow downs at peak times
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 22-Jun-12 19:14:43
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[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
[IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/2023564945.png[/IMG]
Standard User creakycopperline
(regular) Fri 22-Jun-12 20:04:42
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[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
been connected since last wednesday. absolutely awesome. buffering is rare and yt uploads take 6 mins.
44 down 9 up

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 26-Jun-12 18:18:29
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Re: FTTC. cleckheaton


[re: creakycopperline] [link to this post]
 
What happened??
my cabinet showed as upgrade for 30th June yesterday and today says 30th September
WF15 6AT
Standard User ccxo
(committed) Tue 26-Jun-12 18:20:49
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[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
It is only a placeholder and not a actual live date, your cabinet will come online once the relevent works to enable it are completed, these are useually over a few weeks and more cabinets come on line once the first few have.

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