General Discussion
  >> Fibre Broadband


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.


Pages in this thread: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | [9] | 10 | 11 | (show all)   Print Thread
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 02-Oct-12 16:26:53
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: BatBoy] [link to this post]
 
Oh no!!

Using this new link to check postcode it now looks like I (and other neighbours in RH17 7SN, Lewes Road) will not get Infinity for the forseeable future as cabinet P53 is not economic to upgrade. Arrgh!

The BT Website continues to show a date for my Infinity for my phone line, although, as I suspected it would, it has just moved date from 30 September 2012 to 31 December 2012. Presumably the "When and Where" checker is more accurate and 31 December is just a red herring...I wonder if the date will just continue to roll forward ad infinitum giving false hope?

There is another cabinet further up the road (p1) which had a new Infinity cabinet installed months ago but it was in the middle of what is going to be the new roundabout and has now been un-installed - wonder where it is going to be re-installed and whether the "budget" for P53 has now been blown because of a messup over the location of P1.

Also, the "when and where" link does show P53 about 1 mile from where it is actually located, but guessing that doesnt make any difference.

Final shame is that Openreach applied and were granted permission for the new cabinet as it is in a conservation area. What a waste of time for Mid-Sussex planning people if its now not going to happen.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Mon 08-Oct-12 12:33:30
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
Official confirmation from Openreach that Cabinet 53 in Haywards will now not be included in Infinty rollout:


Thank you for contacting Openreach about Fibre Broadband. I can confirm that cab SD/HYWRD 53 has been deferred out of the program at this time.
As you will appreciate, Openreach is rolling out fibre broadband on a strictly commercial basis. When calculating the commercial viability of cabinet areas we take many factors into account. These include ensuring that we locate the cabinets in accordance with all national and local planning laws, ensuring that the cabinet does not obstruct pedestrians or provide a danger to all road-users. We must ensure that the DSLAM is located within 100m of its associated telephony connection cabinet and that there is adequate access to power and existing telephony infrastructure. To further enable the location of the DSLAM, we must accurately survey for underground structure and obstacles etc. As such we look at the potential return for our investment over a number of years, (20),with the prospective number of take up of the service being around 20% of households.
Your cabinet SD/HYWRD 53 has had several possible options looked at to locate it, however, due to conservation issues, the financials were too great to build and maintain this cabinet at this time and as such, this cab has been deferred from the programme. You must understand that this decision was not taken lightly, however, we have made a commitment to our customers, shareholders and the government to roll-out fibre broadband to 66% of the UK by November 2014. This is a complex and long term project with finite timescales and funding, we have to work within this confinement which ultimately means some areas are deferred. However, we do intend to revisit areas not included in the initial rollout, such as SD/HYWRD, for possible deployment at a later date.
Regards
Tony Franklin
Network Investment Customer Engagement
Email:- [email protected]|
Standard User Bob_s2
(committed) Mon 08-Oct-12 14:01:44
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
Quite where that leaves you is unclear. THey have not said it is not viable but that it will be deferred. Untill when who knows and it might still be No . It might be worth contacting your local council. If they have a BDUK programe they may be able to tell you whether you are in the intervention program or not but fromBT's responce you seem to be in a no mans land of neither being out of the commercial rollout or in it

From the BT reply it seems to be a Conservation area issue so may be worth contacting your local council and finding out exactly what the issue is and if it is resolvable without significant extra cost. Frequently BT just give up when they get the planning consent turned down.

Edited by Bob_s2 (Mon 08-Oct-12 14:04:41)


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.

Anonymous
(Unregistered)Mon 08-Oct-12 14:51:38
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: Bob_s2] [link to this post]
 
Planning consent was given earlier in the year for this specific cabinet and remains vailid for a few years
Standard User WWWombat
(experienced) Mon 08-Oct-12 15:25:02
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
It sounded like a mix of conservation and siting the cabinet. Did the planning permission have any conditions with it: such as a prettier box, or a highways issue (such as siting it further away from a junction)?
Standard User WWWombat
(experienced) Mon 08-Oct-12 15:28:10
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
Slightly off-topic:
In reply to a post by Anonymous:
As such we look at the potential return for our investment over a number of years, (20),with the prospective number of take up of the service being around 20% of households.

These are useful numbers to know.

we have made a commitment to our customers, shareholders and the government to roll-out fibre broadband to 66% of the UK by November 2014.

And now they've reduced the target by 1%, but speeded up the end-date by a month.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Mon 08-Oct-12 15:33:59
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: WWWombat] [link to this post]
 
I dont believe there were any restrictions. From what Im guessing they applied and got permission but when they now come to look further into it to install it they need to do more work then orginally thought (eg the power is not in the right place).

Here is the link to all the planning application and consent.

http://pa.midsussex.gov.uk/online-applications/appli...
Standard User WWWombat
(experienced) Mon 08-Oct-12 16:04:05
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
The document that makes the decison (29th March) seems to approve the cabinet. However, the letter back to Harlequin (also 29th March) doesn't seem to say that. Instead, it seems to say that planning permission is required.

I wonder if BT have been given the wrong message, and chosen not to bother...
Standard User Bob_s2
(committed) Mon 08-Oct-12 16:07:37
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: WWWombat] [link to this post]
 
Either Openreach have got the wires croosed or a hitch occured and as the Cabinet appears to be marginal BT have decided to leave it and move on. Presumably revisting it at the end of the current commercial rollout. Who knows it's a bit of a black art
Standard User WWWombat
(experienced) Mon 08-Oct-12 16:12:13
Print Post

Re: BT INFINITY IN HAYWARDS HEATH EXCHANGE AND WHICH CABINET


[re: Bob_s2] [link to this post]
 
I agree. The email says "due to conservation issues," which implies issues with the planning process. In this case it might be that they believe that further planning was necessary - and this was indeed the margin.

I think it is at least worth going back to Openreach, pointing out that planning permission was given without any conservation issues noted, and asking for details.
Pages in this thread: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | [9] | 10 | 11 | (show all)   Print Thread

Jump to