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Does anyone know / have any knowledge as to when then Haywards Heath Exchange is getting upgraded to BT INFINITY. Website states 31st March 2012 but i have seen no BT vans around laying cables. Also, im aware that not all cabinets will be upgraded but does anyone know with the Bolnore Village cabinets are going to be upgraded/scheduled as this is driving me nuts!
BT as usual are useless and never want to give you information. As does their sister company OPENREACH.
Anyone looked into this area/know any information? Lindfield have been very lucky as a village near by to get Infinity installed recently, despite the population of Haywards Heath being larger.....
Cheers
G.
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post your postcode and I or someone else will look it up in the spreadsheet for you.
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RH16 4TS - Many thanks.
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Haywards Heath is already showing as live, which means 10+ cabinets have been enabled, Lindfield was due to go live in March, it may go live or likely slip a few weeks into April.
Haywards Heath cabs that are planned are below- most are phase 6a which is due for completion by March, likely a few will go over into April till June. One or 2 cabs are planned for phase 9a which is October to December.
Cabs 1, 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 27 28 29 20 31 32 33 34 36 39
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Your postcode
SDHYWRD HAYWARDS HEATH RH164TS {SDHYWRD}{P56} 0 100% 9.43 9a Yes FTTC
Will not be enabled for FTTC until phase 9a which is October to December.
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Thanks for checking, much appreciated.
For me that sucks badly - potentially 9 more months 
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Well their are alot of people that have no date for FTTC and cannot get it so the wait is not that bad.
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Haywards Heath is live now but not fully built.
I would expect Bolnore Ghetto will get it eventually as there is good duct routes to the two cabinets that feed it.
Lindfield is live and will benefit from full fibre to premises on PCPs 6,7 and 8. My sources tell me that the FTTP cable truck has been upsetting the natives by churning up the crocuses around the village.
Edited by deleted (Fri 23-Mar-12 20:14:23)
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Just for the record, I have BT Infinity since January on the Priory.
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Hi Guys,
Just ive seen a lot of the cuckfield cabinets now have new BT fibre cabinets installed with the BT infinity stickers. Unfortunately my cabinet is very old and doesn't have a new one next to it.
I've checked in the bt site and they say i can only get half fibre i.e 9MB connection.
Can you tell me if my cabinet is going to be upgraded, my postcode, RH17 5ED.
Thanks!
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Your on one of two cabinets, both scheduled for FTTC in phase 5b
SAU_NODE_ID Postcode Percent Lines Uplift
{SDHYWRD}{P12} RH175ED 90% 3.08
{SDHYWRD}{P30} RH175ED 9% 10.77
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wow, thanks for the really quick reply 
How can i find out whcih cab my house is linked to?
Also when are these two cab due to be upgraded?
Many Thanks
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You said your cabinet is very old. Is the one you think is yours one of the two given here?
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yes i do think it is, but i cant be sure as i havent had a look at the numbers. Also the only reason i say is old, is becuase the outer casing seems to be the thin green iron type.
Can you give me the date that these two cabinets will be upgraded?
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and the time?
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lol, i dont think he will have the exact hh:mm:ss.
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Coincidentally, I don't think he'll have the date either.
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why wont he have the date?
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Your next step is to find out if it is one of those. If it isn't, then find them.
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
I doubt even Open Reach will know that, they will know which cabinet your on though.
I got the information from the leaked spreadsheet, so I can't tell you any more.
As others have said you'll need the numbers off the cabinets to confirm they are the two in question, only way to know which one is yours is to ask an engineer.
Once you've found the two cabinets try looking on the roadworks link in my signature, you may find information on there for your area.
Edited by R0NSKI (Sun 01-Apr-12 23:19:47)
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Your on cab 12 and I have a hunch the fibre cab is standing in the school access road.
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hi,
the school access road is far away from me, thats at least a mile. My nearest cab is the one on butlers road (see googel street map view). The ones in cuckfield have all got a new fibre cabinent next to them and have the stickers attached.
Real shame, as i was expecting to have been connected to my closet cabnent and not one a mile away. Ohh well heres hoping to FFTP....
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Your on cab 12 and I have a hunch the fibre cab is standing in the school access road. How do you know he isn't on cab 30?
He doesn't seem to have found either of them anyway, and until he does there is nothing useful to be said to him.
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Cos cab 30 doesn't feed his postcode.
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Your road used to be fed by Cuckfield exchange so your dside heads towards Cuckfield rather than towards cab39 at Butlers Green.
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Cos cab 30 doesn't feed his postcode.
So why does the spread sheet imply his postcode is fed by P12 & P30, or is it an error?
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Don't care what any spreadsheet says. Cab 30 don't feed that postcode.
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Guess it's another error then, I've noticed loads of potential errors in my area. If the spreadsheet is taken from the data the engineers use then it must make their job so much harder.
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Don't care what any spreadsheet says. Cab 30 don't feed that postcode. So have you reported this upwards, to get it corrected?
It's very odd that the same two cabinets were given in the April spreadsheet, but 12 having 82.35% and 30 having 17.64% of the lines. So a correction has been made between then and December. Amazing that the correction is also wrong.
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hi guys so just walked and checked, its cab12.
My lane had problems with flooding in the bt duct 2 years back and so they had to chage our lines, im guessing they moved us fom the butlers green cab to the school one back then.
when is cab 12 getting full fibre?
Thanks for your help btw!
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Both cabinets were scheduled in the December list, so if it's not done something must be holding it up.
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Apologies in advance ofr a double posting - I saw this thread after posting this elsewhere. Below is an adjusted version to take account of likely local knowledge of those reading this Haywards Heath thread
I live in Cuckfield (RH17 5AX) on a 4 yr old development that has approx 60 dwellings (known locally as The Copse). Given its recent build I assume the cabinet that was installed to serve these houses is relatively modern. The development does have its own cabinet - well, certainly one that is located on the development (which was built on a greenfield site within the existing village).
A few months ago I stumbled across a csv file called 'PCP to Postcode Report 13042011.csv' which had my postcode listed on it... and all looked good (100% of my postcode would get FTTC fibre). However, I've just looked at the file called December_2012_PCP.csv and my postcode, and those of my neighbours on this development are simply not listed.
Any idea how I can find out if/when I'll be able to get fibre?
I have seen another cabinet in Cuckfield that has been plastered with an openreach 'superfast broadband is here' sticker so engineers have been to our village, just not out cabinet (I presume).
Thanks
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Sorry, last post was mine too, but I forgot to log in...
Not sure if it's relevant but there are only 5 properties under my postcode.
I also just took a look back at the original/older spreadsheet file and the line for my postcode said:
SDHYWRD HAYWARDS HEATH RH175AX {SDHYWRD}{p38} 0 100 10.43
Looking at the other postcodes in the csv file there's clearly some fields that are missing data, namely the phase and whether it's FTTC or not.
Am now starting to worry that my cabinet is going to be missed out.
Thanks awfully
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
I've locked the other post with a request to reply to this one, member has since registered with the username of thosking.
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I also just took a look back at the original/older spreadsheet file and the line for my postcode said:
SDHYWRD HAYWARDS HEATH RH175AX {SDHYWRD}{p38} 0 100 10.43
Looking at the other postcodes in the csv file there's clearly some fields that are missing data, namely the phase and whether it's FTTC or not.
Am now starting to worry that my cabinet is going to be missed out.
Thanks awfully It means cabinet 38 has been removed from the current schedule for some reason. 'Deployed' Key
�YES� = Part of scheduled deployment
�NO� = Removed or Deferred from Scheduled Deployment
�Blanks� = Not part of a phase / untargeted cabinet
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Oh my days... So we were going to get it and now BT/Openreach have decided to take it away, even though we're connected to a 'live' exchange and adjacent cabinets are going to get it in the coming weeks?
I've just seen another a post from user ccxo on 23-March said:
Haywards Heath cabs that are planned are below- most are phase 6a which is due for completion by March, likely a few will go over into April till June. One or 2 cabs are planned for phase 9a which is October to December.
Cabs 1, 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 27 28 29 20 31 32 33 34 36 39
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I'm not sure what to take as the real status.
I spoke to BT today and they said that "on one of our systems it shows that you have it, but on another it doesn't"
eek, now very worried that I'm gonna be stuck with my poxy 3Mb ADSL line until BT are dragged kicking and screaming by Ofcom to actually deliver on their promises.
Wouldn't be so bad if NTL/C&W/Virgin hadn't stuck 2 fingers up at our village
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cxxo may have access to more up to date information, so P38 may well now be planned, but the December data showed it as not being planned.
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I added by mistake the later numbers as if you look in the list 38 etc is out of place, in the sequence and i cannot edit it as too much time has passed.
The cab will likely be upgraded via 2 routes, either Openreach will return and enable the area if their is enough demand shown- register on their site and BT ininfity site etc.
Secondly through the BDUK funds tenders will cover rural areas which your postcode is and the winning tender will likely be BT who will opt for cabinet upgrades- this will be between end of 2012/start 2013 till 2015.
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Man.. that SUCKS.
I'm not sure how any BDUK rural funding would apply to my 'area' as most of my area's cabinets are enabled.
Could this be because our cabinet serves ~60 dwellings, and due to the number of lines has been de-prioritised?
I've emailed all the residents here to get them to register interest, but I fear Openreach will just ignore us as we're below a commercially viable critical mass.
Godda love being provided for by a monopoly (Virgin not here)
Looks like we'll be forever pushed to the wrong side of the digital divide.
In case this is down to the cabinet being a bit less modern than I thought, and an upgrade being dependent on a planning application, does anyone know their way around the Mid Sussex Council website well enough to point me in the direction of where I can check to see if an application has gone in?
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http://westsussex.cdmf.info/public/map.htm
Map to keep any eye out for roadworks in west Sussex, not as good as say roadworks.org but sussex is not signed up to it.
Looking at your area it is a new build, this is your cab below?
http://g.co/maps/n8kg9
The problem with new builds is that they do not show up in the postcode/openreach databases straight away so when your area was planned the cab and postcode where not in the system.
New builds do get FTTC cabs later on, as they fit into the rollout program lower down the list and since their is no VM etc no threat of a competing service in that area less of a priority as the service is expanded to different areas.
The figure of 60 dwelings could also be a factor why the cabinet has not yet been upgraded, commercially unviable prehaps though you need to get in contact with the local council and people in charge of the Sussex BDUK program etc as they can apply pressure onto BT or add the cab into the rollout if BT win the tender.
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Thanks for the reply. I've bookmarked the roadworks page and will keep an eye on it.
The cabinet is indeed the one on the StreetView image in your link. Is this an 'old' one?
Thinking about when work first started on the development, it was probably installed 5-6 years ago. Seems odd that they weren't able to forward plan (if it is an old one that needs 'upgrading')
As for the postcodes, they certainly were absent from databases used by commercial organisations (ordering anything online was tricky when we first moved in), and our streets & StreetView images have only appeared on Google in the last few months. Just odd that the postcode made it to an earlier PCP to Postcode spreadsheet.
WRT VM: Good to see that competition is driving consumer choice... oh, it isn't
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I moved into my current house in Hove in May 2011. At the time, BT's on-line broadband checker was showing availability of Infinity from 30th June 2011. This has changed every 3 months since: the date advances by 3 months every time the promised date approaches.
I sent an enquiry to the BT Infinity team 3 weeks ago (when the broadband checker was showing Infinity availability from 31st March) to which I received the following reply:
�Good news!
Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 40Mbps and upstream line speed of 10Mbps.
If you would like to proceed with an order for the BT Retail Infinity service we would be delighted to process your order, let us know if you would like further information and a copy of the pre-order form. On receipt we will monitor the planning date and ensure the order is placed as soon as the cabinet goes live so that you in turn can receive the earliest possible delivery date.�
Shortly after the broadband checker changed availability to 30th June 2012. My postcode is BN34FE. Does anyone have any idea what�s going on?
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Duplicate post, reply to this one please.
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The cabinet is indeed the one on the StreetView image in your link. Is this an 'old' one? Far from old  . Ours is the top left one on this page. Yours looks like the third one down on the left.
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Yes, that does look like the one.
With this (possibly) being a new one, does it mean that it could be enabled for fibre, or would a replacement cabinet need to be installed?
Given that other cabinets in the area have been replaced with with new units altogether it would seem a tad 'unfair' if our one is left out of the current plans.
Incidentally, and perhaps irrelevantly, we also have this cabinet on our development, but I think this is the cabinet that manages the development with the satellite and terrestrial TV signals (we have one communal dish and aerial)
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Yes, that does look like the one.
With this (possibly) being a new one, does it mean that it could be enabled for fibre, or would a replacement cabinet need to be installed? They just install an FTTC cabinet within 50 metres cable-run. See my FTTx page. That may be the problem, finding a suitable place and getting cable to it. Given that other cabinets in the area have been replaced with with new units altogether .... That sounds unusual. See my link. The age of the PCP is rarely relevant, but some to get "re-skinned". Possily to give room for the fibre patch panel. Incidentally, and perhaps irrelevantly, we also have this cabinet on our development, but I think this is the cabinet that manages the development with the satellite and terrestrial TV signals (we have one communal dish and aerial) Looks like it could be to do with that, I don't recognise that cabinet. What do the manhole covers by it say? I see there is a matching pair at the other end of the passage.
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Cab 38 is a new cab. A Cabinet Cross Connection 5a.
My hunch is the land is either not adopted or is adopted and under a 5 year no dig embargo. The streetlights have no numbers on them so I would suggest the road is not adopted.
The fibre spine is in place and cab14 up the road a Brainsmead is enabled so there is some other reason why 38 has been canned.
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Could have possibly been a planning rejection on it prehaps, as that can cause the cab to not be deoplyed while the issue is resolved.
Would suggest looking through local planning applications to see if one was placed for the cab.
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Arh, yes, our road is as yet 'unadopted', and is unlikely to be for at least another year - the council are dragging their heels in adopting it.
Can anyone advise on how best to engage with Openreach in order to get them to do whatever work is needed to enable a cabinet that is housed on an unadapted road?
Cabinets in unadopted roads can't be that uncommon, so hopefully there's a known process?
Apologies in advance, but I know nadda about the implications and details of unadapted roads and what this means for the laying of fibre optic cable. I'm hoping the development's management company (of which I am a director) simply write to Openreach and tell them it's OK to do what they need to do... but I suspect that none of that is that straight forward
Can anyone poin me in the right direction?
Many thanks
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As an FYI I emailed Openreach's CEO. And got a very quick reply.
Her initial response has been that it is almost certainly because our road is unadopted, and that as the cabinet upgrade team have probably now moved on from the area it may not be viable for them to return!!!
So we could be on the wrong side of the digital divide for years to come, with no plan to address it
Good that she responded (very quickly). Not so good that Openreach appear to just take cabinets on unadopted roads off their plans so quickly, without making any attempt to contact the estate management
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Don't forget that BT also look for a reasonable return on their investment and with just 60 lines on your PCP and it costing around £30+K to install each FTTC cab you could be in for a long wait as I suspect that there are many cabs with far more lines still waiting for their FTTC twin.
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Our cabinet has been in about 14 months. I quizzed an OR engineer connecting someone to FTTC at it the other day. He reckoned 42 connections on the 100 pair link. (I was the fourth).
High levels of Sky and VM cable here.
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I think it will happen. But not as quick as the punters would like.
There is a reason they are putting up new cabinets on small newbuild sites rather than the cheaper option of huffing and puffing a hundred pair a hundred metres up the road to an existing cabinet.
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There is a reason they are putting up new cabinets on small newbuild sites rather than the cheaper option of huffing and puffing a hundred pair a hundred metres up the road to an existing cabinet.
It's a shame that BT doesn't have the same attitude towards installing PCPs. I'm on a 20+ year old development in London SW9 where all 75+ lines are EO and from our attentuation about 2.9Km from the Vauxhall exchange in Kennington (2.3Km by road). We'd love a PCP and an adjacent FTTC twin, all the more so given all the surrounding streets have FTTC and most at 40/20.
We contacted Hyperoptic and they surveyed and quoted for giving us FTTP. Install price was just about acceptable but we couldn't accept the yearly maintenance charge, payable in addition to what the individual end-users would be paying. NDA prevents me giving precise details.
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Apologies for the double posting, but I noticed another thread was 'locked' and don't know if that means I won't get a response...
I 'stumbled' across the spreadsheet and have checked it but my postcode (RH6 9JB) doesn't show...which worries me with a view to my local cabinet getting the upgrade.
I know I am connected to the Horley exchange and that it is fibre enabled, and has been for ages. I also know that there is a cabinet near me, but not the closest to me, which says 'Super Fast Fibre is here'.
I live on a new development which is on a green fields site so all homes are on the one cabinet, probably {SDHRLY}{P34} in the spreadsheet (it's postcodes virtually surround my house). I also know that the next phase of the development is listed as being one set to receive FTTP (luck blighters!).
I have two questions:
1) How do I find out when my cabinet will be upgraded?
2) Does the fact that the new houses 50m from my house are going to get FTTP mean my cabinet (the only one on the development so far) has to be upgraded? Put another way does FTTP mean one fibre cable direct from the exchange to the house, or does it still go through a cabinet?
Thanks in advance for any responses!
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One thing i would say when they eventually run the fibre through the ducts down to Bonore.. I can see my cabinet which is about 50 yards up the road. However, is there anyway of telling whether I am directly connected to it or whether I am at the front or end of the local loop?
I say this because when broadband was first released, people were excited by the fact that they were right next door to their cabinet, but when having the product installed found that they were at the very end of the loop and therefore experienced terrible performance.
Seems stupid that BT would lay cable that goes around in one big loop, rather than seperate one hald going one way and the other half going the other, meaning that the maximum distance is only half way.
For me and my luck, being located at the end of the road i suspect it will go all around one way and i will be at the end of one very long loop in the village.
Any of you BT guys have any advice on how i can check please?
Thanks
G.
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Partial, Do you know if Bolnore (RH164TS) will get FTTP once they finally lay the cables for FTTC?
Thanks
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The loop you are talking about is how the copper gets from the exchange to the cabinet. From the cabinet to you is usually quite short - probably almost the line of sight.
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I have no information on Bolnore fibre.
You're not far away from your cab though, it's here.
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Partial, the on you posted is about 200 yards away around the corner. There is a box like that about 100 yards from me on the corner. Looks like the one you showed in the picture but if i do a street view of my location and then paste it, it basically takes you back to the one you showed.
However if the one you show me is where it will be, will there be much attenuation whether it is 200 yards or 100 yards from me?
Not sure how far it takes for copper before signals begin to attenuate. I would hope to get FTTP once FTTC is finally here.
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Thanks for the reply
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I heard from an engineer that Bolnore would be getting Infinity in 2012, but today had the following exchange on line which suggests nothing around the corner. Does anyone have any further information?
ME: 01444 62xcxcxs no. x RH16 4QS. Hi, are you able to tell me when my area, RH16 4QS, Haywards Heath, will have BT infinity? I've heard rumours that our area (a new development outside Haywards Heath) is being missed out on the rollout
Allie: It is available in the area now
Allie: however not on your line as yet
ME: Would I be able to get it if I change to a BT line? And if not, do you know how long the wait will be? Is there anything residents of an area can do to influence how quickly they get Infinity? Thanks
Allie: No it is not available on your cabinet as yet
Allie: Switching over would have no bearing on this
Allie: Please click here to register your interest in BT Infinity.
Allie: I would get your neighbours to register
Allie: Bar that nothing else can be done I'm afraid
Allie: Is there anything else I can help you with?
ME: So there's no estimated date for roll out yet?
Allie: I'm afraid not
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Partial
Im a bit confused. Im in Lindfield on RH16 2JY/Cab 5 (right outside where I live) which has been upgraded to FTTC but it has not been made available to order. Availablility checker has it availble at each quarter end date. rolling forward quarter by quarter with nothing ever happening. If there a problem? Local BY guys say it should be available.
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Cab 5 (right outside where I live)
You live in the Christian Care Home?
I have no involvement in FTTC/P work in Lindfield. Indeed the only contract I have done on FTTC/P was early doors surveying and some build in Crawley and Brighton
So I am unable to comment other than to say that I admire the pole top manifolds down the High Street and Lewes Road as I drive through and that Comptons Lane is fed by Cab 5 at one end, Cab 7 in the middle which is a FTTP area and Haywards Heath cab 16 at the other.
Local Openreach guys won't have much clue either as they ain't building it. My sources tell me that the cablers are from Eastbourne, the fibre jointers are from London and the installers are mostly fresh outta Iraq.
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The one a hundred yards away is local CATV.
There are only two BT cabs on Bolnore Ghetto and you are on the one I posted.
I know the guy who had the contract to build the cab you are on 
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You live in the Christian Care Home?
...Ha! Opposite.
Otherwise, thanks for the reply.
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Is the cabinet making a humming noise? From the cooling fans inside
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Anyone have information on BT Infinity becoming available in Lewes Road, Haywards Heath. I know we are linked to Cabinet 53 which has not had a new cabinet installed next to it yet. It is in a conservation area but Mid Sussex gave planning permission for a new cabinet 4 months ago. There was another new cabinet added further up the road opposite the Petrol Station but that was then removed 6 weeks ago because of the work on the new HH bypass. There has been a lot of activity in the area from the last few weeks with BT Openreach vans and what seemed to be a lot of cabling activity but no new cabinets ... and the one that was removed has not reappered anywhere.
On the BT line checker it shows we are due to get infinity by 30 September but that has rolled over quite a few times over the last 18 months
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They been there to move cables outta the way of the new roundabout. This work is generated by 'repayment planners' and paid for by the peeps doing the roundabout so won't be anything to do with fibre to cab.
Edited by deleted (Tue 18-Sep-12 17:26:57)
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Does anybody know anything about Bolnore availability? The fibre cabinets were finally installed a couple of weeks ago (P56 for the lower village) but there is no sign of availability on BT's website checker. I did a web-chat with BT and they simply told me there was no information for my telephone number and they could not comment on the amount of time between a cabinet being installed and Infinity being available.
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If cabinet does not have a quiet hum then it has no kit or power in it, so a good number of weeks away from live
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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Thanks MrSaffron, I went to check and it's absolutely silent. But at least some of the cabling is done as a trench has been dug and re-filled from the cabinet up to some new BT inspection covers. I guess I need to look out for more contractors working at the cab.
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I wonder if someone can help me with my availability, as BT can't, and I can't contact Openreach directly *grrrr* My postcode is RH16 3AT, my availability for BT Infinity was the end of June, then the end of July, then the end of September, and now the end of December. [censored]? What's going on?
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If you put your postcode into http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/ you will see a yellow pin. Click on the pin: This marker shows cabinet: P1
Which is linked to exchange: HAYWARDS HEATH
Please note: This is the intended area for the cabinet that will provide fibre broadband services to your postcode. We're sorry but it�s taking us longer than planned to get your cabinet ready for service. Please bear with us.
We're sorry that the work we are doing to bring fibre broadband to your area is taking longer than first planned. This can be for many reasons that include blocked underground cable routes, issues with providing electrical power to the cabinet and issues with the cabinet�s location. Please bear with us while we work to resolve this which may take some time. We will continue to work on this and apologise for any inconvenience this has caused.
If you would like any more information feel free to contact us at [email protected]
Edited by deleted (Fri 28-Sep-12 15:02:37)
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Thanks BatBoy, sent an e-mail to the enquiries address, see what they say.
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my availability for BT Infinity was the end of June, then the end of July, then the end of September, and now the end of December. [censored]? What's going on?
End of July? Are you sure? As that is not a quarter-end holding date, it suggests that something might actually have been happening, albeit briefly.
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Im a bit confused. Im in Lindfield on RH16 2JY/Cab 5 (right outside where I live) which has been upgraded to FTTC but it has not been made available to order. Availablility checker has it availble at each quarter end date. rolling forward quarter by quarter with nothing ever happening. If there a problem? Local BY guys say it should be available.
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Was on a contract on Lindfield 5 today and noticed there is one circuit connected.
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Haywards Heath 1 will be the same reason as 53. In fact 53 used to be a secondary cross connection pillar off of 1.
There are major roadworks going on building a new roundabout at this location and there is no chance of any FTTC cabinet works happening on a road that is moving 20 metres south as we speak.
Edited by deleted (Sat 29-Sep-12 21:29:49)
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my availability for BT Infinity was the end of June, then the end of July, then the end of September, and now the end of December. [censored]? What's going on?
End of July? Are you sure? As that is not a quarter-end holding date, it suggests that something might actually have been happening, albeit briefly.
It did happen. The FTTC cab was planted. However where the FTTC cab was planted is now in the middle of the road as a roundabout is being subsequently planted rendering the fibre cab as a hazard to shipping.
Something is happening at 1 and 53 though, I saw two fibre cable trucks and a couple of fibre jointers blundering around a fibre node tray there last week amongst the gridlock and the poor bloke sitting around all day manning the traffic lights on lookout for the next ambulance coming out of the adjacent hospital.
Edited by deleted (Sat 29-Sep-12 21:44:02)
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That was my circuit! I was first on the box, ordered two weeks ago, live from last Friday. They dug up the road again and resolved a power supply problem. What a process! No wonder it takes some much time and resource.
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Pleased to hear it. I did wonder if it was your circuit.
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Oh no!!
Using this new link to check postcode it now looks like I (and other neighbours in RH17 7SN, Lewes Road) will not get Infinity for the forseeable future as cabinet P53 is not economic to upgrade. Arrgh!
The BT Website continues to show a date for my Infinity for my phone line, although, as I suspected it would, it has just moved date from 30 September 2012 to 31 December 2012. Presumably the "When and Where" checker is more accurate and 31 December is just a red herring...I wonder if the date will just continue to roll forward ad infinitum giving false hope?
There is another cabinet further up the road (p1) which had a new Infinity cabinet installed months ago but it was in the middle of what is going to be the new roundabout and has now been un-installed - wonder where it is going to be re-installed and whether the "budget" for P53 has now been blown because of a messup over the location of P1.
Also, the "when and where" link does show P53 about 1 mile from where it is actually located, but guessing that doesnt make any difference.
Final shame is that Openreach applied and were granted permission for the new cabinet as it is in a conservation area. What a waste of time for Mid-Sussex planning people if its now not going to happen.
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Official confirmation from Openreach that Cabinet 53 in Haywards will now not be included in Infinty rollout:
Thank you for contacting Openreach about Fibre Broadband. I can confirm that cab SD/HYWRD 53 has been deferred out of the program at this time.
As you will appreciate, Openreach is rolling out fibre broadband on a strictly commercial basis. When calculating the commercial viability of cabinet areas we take many factors into account. These include ensuring that we locate the cabinets in accordance with all national and local planning laws, ensuring that the cabinet does not obstruct pedestrians or provide a danger to all road-users. We must ensure that the DSLAM is located within 100m of its associated telephony connection cabinet and that there is adequate access to power and existing telephony infrastructure. To further enable the location of the DSLAM, we must accurately survey for underground structure and obstacles etc. As such we look at the potential return for our investment over a number of years, (20),with the prospective number of take up of the service being around 20% of households.
Your cabinet SD/HYWRD 53 has had several possible options looked at to locate it, however, due to conservation issues, the financials were too great to build and maintain this cabinet at this time and as such, this cab has been deferred from the programme. You must understand that this decision was not taken lightly, however, we have made a commitment to our customers, shareholders and the government to roll-out fibre broadband to 66% of the UK by November 2014. This is a complex and long term project with finite timescales and funding, we have to work within this confinement which ultimately means some areas are deferred. However, we do intend to revisit areas not included in the initial rollout, such as SD/HYWRD, for possible deployment at a later date.
Regards
Tony Franklin
Network Investment Customer Engagement
Email:- [email protected]|
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Quite where that leaves you is unclear. THey have not said it is not viable but that it will be deferred. Untill when who knows and it might still be No . It might be worth contacting your local council. If they have a BDUK programe they may be able to tell you whether you are in the intervention program or not but fromBT's responce you seem to be in a no mans land of neither being out of the commercial rollout or in it
From the BT reply it seems to be a Conservation area issue so may be worth contacting your local council and finding out exactly what the issue is and if it is resolvable without significant extra cost. Frequently BT just give up when they get the planning consent turned down.
Edited by deleted (Mon 08-Oct-12 14:04:41)
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Planning consent was given earlier in the year for this specific cabinet and remains vailid for a few years
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It sounded like a mix of conservation and siting the cabinet. Did the planning permission have any conditions with it: such as a prettier box, or a highways issue (such as siting it further away from a junction)?
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Slightly off-topic:
In reply to a post by Anonymous:
These are useful numbers to know.
we have made a commitment to our customers, shareholders and the government to roll-out fibre broadband to 66% of the UK by November 2014.
And now they've reduced the target by 1%, but speeded up the end-date by a month.
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I dont believe there were any restrictions. From what Im guessing they applied and got permission but when they now come to look further into it to install it they need to do more work then orginally thought (eg the power is not in the right place).
Here is the link to all the planning application and consent.
http://pa.midsussex.gov.uk/online-applications/appli...
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The document that makes the decison (29th March) seems to approve the cabinet. However, the letter back to Harlequin (also 29th March) doesn't seem to say that. Instead, it seems to say that planning permission is required.
I wonder if BT have been given the wrong message, and chosen not to bother...
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Either Openreach have got the wires croosed or a hitch occured and as the Cabinet appears to be marginal BT have decided to leave it and move on. Presumably revisting it at the end of the current commercial rollout. Who knows it's a bit of a black art
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I agree. The email says "due to conservation issues," which implies issues with the planning process. In this case it might be that they believe that further planning was necessary - and this was indeed the margin.
I think it is at least worth going back to Openreach, pointing out that planning permission was given without any conservation issues noted, and asking for details.
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Worth a shot. I too was confused when I first read the support documents on the planning portal. There are 2 letters to Harlequin dated 29th March under Documents | Decision Notice. The first one says planning permission is required (but they already knew that as thats why they applied) on the 2nd page it says "MSDC hereby gives approval".
I will email MSDC and BT and see if there is more information
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CCXO, have you had any further information in relation to cabinet 56 (Bolnore Village) getting BT INFINITY? - I created this thread a good few months ago now but it looks to have overgrown with other peoples!
Anyway, do you have any further information or does indeed anyone else here know when Bolnore Village is getting Fiber installed?
Thanks
Gareth
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So it looks like CAB 53 in Haywards Heath is now off. The BT checker now shows BT Infinity is not available to my phone number (for 3 years it has shown it will be coming). Also the postcode checker no longer shows a yellow flag for cab 53 saying "we are working on the install"
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The BT wholesale checker is known to have FTTC disappear just before the cabinet goes live, keep checking it each day.
If nothing appears in a say a week or so email Openreach at the nga email [email protected]
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Interesting...despite believing a few months we were never going to get BT Infinity down our end of Haywards Heath (Lewes Road, Cabinet 53), I came home from a few days away to find an Infinity Cabinet has been installed near cabinet 53, in the exact location that planning permission was applied for last year!
http://pic.twitter.com/Jd25sEWmCh
Wonder how long it will be until it is up and working and taking orders - anyone know?
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Yup.
I note the Bolnore Ghetto cabs quoted earlier in this thread are also live.
Edited by deleted (Thu 13-Jun-13 21:54:31)
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Could be a few weeks or months, watch roadworks.org for power work and any other work as it will give a rough idea for whats left to do.
The wholesale checker using a phone number or address checker is your best bet for knowing when the cabinet will go live.
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Further activity at the Infinity box by cabinet 53 today - an engineer on a stool doing something inside
Further up the road by the hospital there was a bt van and they looked to be laying optical cable - maybe this is the optical run down Lewes road that cabinet 53 will hook into
Doesn't look like the trench has yet been dug and the new cabinet hooked up to cabinet 53, nor power as yet. But the roadworks site shows a date range of 11-24 June so maybe they are aiming to do it all in that timeframe
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Further activity at the Infinity box by cabinet 53 today - an engineer on a stool doing something inside
Further up the road by the hospital there was a bt van and they looked to be laying optical cable - maybe this is the optical run down Lewes road that cabinet 53 will hook into
Doesn't look like the trench has yet been dug and the new cabinet hooked up to cabinet 53, nor power as yet. But the roadworks site shows a date range of 11-24 June so maybe they are aiming to do it all in that timeframe Have you tried asking them? The Openreach guys ones I came across by my cab were very helpful on what they were going to do when they could find the ducting they needed to get the fibre feed into - although they haven't come back since that I know of...
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Notice that Cabinet 1 has gone in opposite the Shell garage
Looks like we are waiting for the electricity supply now for both Cab 1 and 53...nothing showing yet on Roadworks.org
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Just wondering if anyone has any info on FTTC for SD/HYWRD Cabinet 14... this seems to be the cabinet the line I'm looking at is connected to (postcode RH17 5JF). Somewhere in the distant past I did see a list that included this cabinet but nothing seems to have come of it!
Thanks
PJ
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Just wondering if anyone has any info on FTTC for SD/HYWRD Cabinet 14... this seems to be the cabinet the line I'm looking at is connected to (postcode RH17 5JF). Somewhere in the distant past I did see a list that included this cabinet but nothing seems to have come of it!
Thanks
PJ
Huh, so that's odd. I just whacked the postcode into the BT Wholesale checker and picked an address and while it doesn't mention FTTC, apparently Fibre Multicast is available.. somehow.
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