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I asked the below question in not spots & slow spots section and had a reply- to post your postcode in the Fibre section of the forum and someone will look up the cabinet info for you.If any one can help that would be great. Post code is PE344DG.
Many thanks
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/notspot/t/4109545-e...
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Howdy,
You are on cabinet 48, but Openreach are not upgrading this one I'm afraid, probably because it's not viable either commercially or technically, usually the former.
Sorry!
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Just my luck, there is another larger cabinet in the village which has had some underground work done next to it this week,i guess that is where the fibre stops.
Steve.
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Is there any way to find out how far they running fibre in this direction? The village i live in is called Clenchwarton, and it's on the Kings Lynn exchange.
Thanks Steve.
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The next cab along from you (cab 15 on Main Road near Ferry Road - see http://g.co/maps/6s6j2) is being done, so they are just not going further onwards I'm afraid. Your cab is the only one past cab 15
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Thanks for the info James, is there any way to find out how many people are connected onto the last cabinet and there locations? I'm thinking maybe if enough people were interested and sign a petition,could this change the decision of Openreach not to run it to the last cabinet.
Grasping at straws!
Steve
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These postcodes below all connect to cabinet 48, with 100% of those lines from the postcode going to the cab.
PE344DG
PE344DQ
PE344AD
PE344DP
PE344DL
PE344XJ
PE344AE
PE344AB
PE344AG
PE344AH
PE344AQ
PE344DN
PE344DF
PE344DE
PE344DJ
These 4 postcodes are also connected to cab 48 but only have a % of their lines connected to the cab
PE344AA 44%
PE344DH 50%
PE344EA 65%
PE344AF 71%
If you count the number of properties will get a idea of the numbers as only OR would likely know the amount of lines connected to a cab.
If you can get most residents to register their interest on the OR interest form
http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/expression-gen....
This is the Norfolk Broaband site for their BDUK funds, would also suggest registering on their site and contacting them.
http://sayyestobroadband.co.uk/
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Many thanks for that ccxo,now it's time to work out which houses are in those postcodes and start contacting them (any tips from anyone would be fantastic!) .As the fibre will stop at the other cabinet in the village would we see any increase in speeds or do we have to be connected to that cabinet to get any advantage?
Thanks,Steve.
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Lines would have to be connected to that cabinet with a Fibre twin to recieve a FTTC service, as for the house's just put the postcodes into google maps and count the houses that way be quite quick and easy.
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Thanks again, Steve.
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When an area is being enabled for FTTC do they use the existing cabinets or install new ones? The reason i ask is that in a previous post, i was told that fibre was not being run to the cabinet i am connected to. But now a new concrete base with plastic ducts poking out has been layed directly opposite the cabinet i am connected to. Good news i hope!!
Steve.
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Yes, that's good news.
http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/fttx.html
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If it looks something like this then you should be in business. This photo was taken on 23rd March and the cabinet went live for orders on 30th May.
http://postimage.org/image/9zrbm5ao3/
Best of luck!
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Thats exactly what it looks like, they have put the new base the other the side of the road though,about 6 ft from a pole, so fingers crossed!
Steve
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Once the cabinet is in UK Power Networks will come to connect it up to the electricity supply. Then Openreach will come back to commission it.
Keep an eye on http://www.roadworks.org for scheduled roadworks and the BTW checker.
http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome
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Thats exactly what it looks like, they have put the new base the other the side of the road though,about 6 ft from a pole, so fingers crossed!
Mine went in the other day - today they're running duct under the road to get the cables to the old PCP cab !
James - be* pro - 16.8mbps sync - BQM
FTTC cab arrived 18-jun-2012 (due Mar 2011) - Openreach estimate 44.6Mbps / 6.5Mbps
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Is there a rough guide as to how long activation can take once a new cabinet has been installed,as my exchange (kings lynn) has a forecast date of June 2012.
Thanks, Steve.
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Know one knows as it varies greatly from a few weeks to months and longer.
Usual steps for cabinet enablement
Cab instal
Trench to connect pcp to fttc cab
Electricity company to bring main's power to the fttc cab
Openreach engineer to connect everything in the fttc cab
Testing occurs then the cab finally goes live for orders.
In the above list alot of delays can happen as teams move from one cabinet to another, so any delays means that the cab falls down the list to when they can return.
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Shiney new cabinet has been installed today so time for another question!
Just looking to see if you people with the info could give me a rough indication of what speeds can be expected! From the cabinet to my house is 0.5 mile, i know it would only be an estimate,but after be on 1meg since i've had broadband it would be nice to think about what might be available. Also, i'm with Sky at present for my broadband,who have been ok,but if anyone has any input about them or other providers that would be great.
Thanks, Steve
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800 meters depending on the quaility of the copper most likely about 30Mbps down and proably 3-4 up though try your number if its a BT line, on the BT wholesale checker as it will give you a FTTC speed predection.
If its not showing yet it should in the coming weeks as the cabinet goes live.
Both Sky and BT do unlimited deals for their FTTC service- is rumours that sky will increase their upload cap, what deal all depends on how much you are willing to pay and what usage limits you need.
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Thanks for that CCXO, this exchange (EAKLN) had a date of June12 but on the openreach site it's now showing Dec12. Do they wait till all the new cabinets in the area are installed and are ready for service before they start taking orders or do they roll it out as and when ready?
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Most likely its a database error, i would keep any eye on the bt wholesale asdl checker and see what is says for your line.
A exchange will go live with x number of cabinets, this can be between 5-10 cabinets, orders will start to be accepted and then more cabinets will come online.
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A exchange will go live with x number of cabinets Well, yes  . this can be between 5-10 cabinets Supposition? We don't want to embellish the "10" myth by semi-legitimising it by amendment.
As far as we know an exchange could go live with only one cabinet. Otherwise several thousand pounds-worth of equipment could sit un-utilised for no good reason.
AH - wait. This is BT .....
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Just have to sit tight and wait then. Hopefuly it will be sooner rather than later!! When i do get the fibre service is it just a seamless switch over or do i need a different router or anything?
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You need a cable router to connect to the Openreach modem. If you go to BT, Plusnet, TalkTalk or Sky you get one supplied. Some other ISPs may also supply a suitable one free, but I think most charge.
Prices tend to be £50-£100, but I and several others run perfectly well on Buffalo, below £30. I've stopped using my Plusnet supplied Netgear and gone back to my own Buffalo.
Downtime is usually less than 30 minutes, not much different from an ADSLx migration. An engineer visit is mandatory to install a VDSL2 faceplate on the master and connect the modem. Also on BT the supplied router. I don't know whether the engineer fits the Sky/TT routers. He doesn't do the Plusnet one so far as I know.
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Thanks for that RobertoS, I'm with Sky at present so no charge for the new gear then when things get going!
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Thanks for that RobertoS, I'm with Sky at present so no charge for the new gear then when things get going!
Sky will charge you the p&p for the router, a whole £2.18.
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Sounds good  . Enjoy.
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Two Openreach engineers have spent most of the day working on the cabinet i'm connected to and the new fibre cab across the road from it,and the blue nylon rope that was sticking out of the concrete duct cover in the pavement is no longer there! So i would guess this cab has/or is the process of being connected up! Just a shame the exchange date has slipped to December from June, hopefully things will happen sooner rather than later.
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My cabinet number 2, under an M1 bridge on Aerodrome Road is still the same sorry old cabinet. As far as I know there are at least several dozen flats connected to it (to to maybe 140?), everyone has SKY. Still can't believe there's not even a plan in sight to upgrade the thing
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If there are only 140 or so connections to the cab then it could be that BT don't consider it economic to install FTC which costs tens of thousands of pounds per cab.
PS Have you checked the December 2011 spreadsheet to see whether BT are planning to upgrade the cab?
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Does anyone know how many fibre connections a new cab can take? and how many lines need to go to a cabinet to make it viable for Openreach to upgrade it?
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Does anyone know how many fibre connections a new cab can take? Two sizes. Normal is 288, small is 128. and how many lines need to go to a cabinet to make it viable for Openreach to upgrade it? I don't think anyone knows. There are many suggested figures. Bunkum I reckon.
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Its actually 1 cab live = exchange accepting orders
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I do hope my cab is no1 then, been on 1056 kbps or there abouts since ive had broadband!
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Which is the only logical figure. Just that there has been so much speculation, based on imperfect user observation of their area.
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I asked the below question in not spots & slow spots section and had a reply- to post your postcode in the Fibre section of the forum and someone will look up the cabinet info for you.If any one can help that would be great. Post code is PE344DG.
Many thanks
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/notspot/t/4109545-e...
Hi everyone
Is anyone able to tell me (or tell me where I can find out) which PCP I am connected to, please?
I have tried to locate it, without any success so far. I think it is number 53?
Where is it located?
My postcode is BR1 4PU.
I am connected to the Catford exchange. (LSCTFD)
Many thanks.
happy37
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Nicely arranged trio there. From the right - PCP, FTTC, VM. How did the people retaining that convenient patch of grass about 70 years ago know this was coming?
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Thanks ribble and RobertoS for your replies.
I'm assuming that it's the 2nd cabinet that is number 53 (the one that I could be connected to?)
Or is it the first one?
Based on what has been said here, my property (all the way up Rangefield Road and then around the corner from these cabinets) is apparently 2951m away from the Catford exchange.
How far am I from these 2 cabinets then?
I think that the postcodes for both of the roads where these cabinets are located are BR1 4HS (Rangefield Road) and BR1 4RB (Pontefract Road). (I think)
Here�s the exchange info, as taken from "SamKnows" mapping engine:-
Brook Ln, Bromley, BR1 4PU
Exchange: Catford (2951m away)
Can you please find out/confirm this for me?
Thanks again.
happy37
Edited by deleted (Thu 12-Jul-12 12:30:09)
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The cab on the left is for cable/ virgin. The cab in the middle is the bt fibre cab and the one on the right is the copper cab you are connected to.
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Thanks for confirming ribble.
So, my new fibre connection will be taken from the middle BT fibre cab, and this is/could be cabinet number 53?
Interesting.......let's see what sort of speeds I will end up getting once I get connected on the 23rd of this month.
Will keep everyone posted.
Thanks again.
happy37
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Your connection will remain the same - a copper pair from the PCP you are connected to now.
The PCP is connected to the Fibre CAB where the FTTC DSLAM is located.
Speed will be determined by the length and condition of cable to the PCP.
What is the approximate distance from your house to the PCP following a semi logical route that the cables would follow?
Ex <n>ildram , been to SKY MAX - 15,225 Download
BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload ON THE LINE THAT SKY COULD ONLY PROVIDE 15,255 DOWN AND 800 UP ON!!!,
Moved house, now BE Unlimited 6,500 Down, 1Mb/s up - gutted!
FTTC Cab installation commenced 12th April - expect full 80 / 20 - bye bye BE, hello BT Infinity soon!
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First, it would be a good idea to edit out your address from the post. ASAP!
As the others have sort of said, the PCP is cab 53. FTTC cabs are not numbered. Read this page to see what connects to what.
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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 12-Jul-12 12:27:02)
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Greenglide
Thanks for your reply.
What is the approximate distance from your house to the PCP following a semi logical route that the cables would follow?
I don't know exactly about this, but I am trying to find out about this.
According to:-
http://www.freemaptools.com/distance-between-uk-post...
it says:-
From BR1 4QX to BR1 4PU, the distance as the crow flies is 320 metres.
The exact distance is/could be 350 metres.
The postcode of the property that is next to the PCP is BR1 4QX.
My postcode is BR1 4PU.
I'm just using guesswork to do this, but unless someone else can confirm that this is correct, I would be very grateful.
Thanks.
happy37
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RobertoS
Address now edited out - thanks for pointing that out to me.
Regards
happy37
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The best thing to do is to walk it following any BT manholes, crossing roads at right angles and generally not following the shortest route!
Still a guess though.
Does the BT ADSL Checker not tell you expected speed (or a close neighbour if your voice line is unbundled - SKY or TT only)
Ex <n>ildram , been to SKY MAX - 15,225 Download
BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload ON THE LINE THAT SKY COULD ONLY PROVIDE 15,255 DOWN AND 800 UP ON!!!,
Moved house, now BE Unlimited 6,500 Down, 1Mb/s up - gutted!
FTTC Cab installation commenced 12th April - expect full 80 / 20 - bye bye BE, hello BT Infinity soon!
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Does the BT ADSL Checker not tell you expected speed
Here we go Greenglide et al - the full text from the BT checker is below.
Is this correct? (I fully understand it's an estimate)
Any thoughts?
For Telephone Number 0208697**** on Exchange CATFORD
Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial test on your line indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 1Mbps. However due to the length of your line the 1Mbps service may require an engineer visit who will, where possible, supply the broadband service.
Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 2Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 1Mbps and 3.5Mbps.
Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL2+ broadband line speed of 2.5Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 1Mbps and 4Mbps.
Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 59.8Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.
The actual stable line speed supportable will be determined during the first 10 days of use. This speed may change over time, to ensure line stability is maintained.
Furthermore your exchange has been enabled for multicast services on fibre lines, please contact your provider for further details.
If you decide to place an order, a further test will be performed to confirm if your line is suitable for the service you wish to purchase.
Thank you for your interest.
Please note that postcode and address check results are indicative only. Most accurate results can be obtained from a telephone number check.
Note: If you have already placed an order for Broadband and now wish to change to a new supplier, then you will need to cancel the existing order with your service provider or your new request will be rejected. If you do not know who the current Service Provider is, please contact your new Service Provider, who would be able to help you to resolve this issue.
Also provision of some services may not be allowed due to product withdrawal, please contact your service provider for further details.
Thanks.
Regards
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Just a quick question while i'm waiting for my cabinet to go live! When an exchange is upgraded to FTTC does much work need doing at the exchange? I imagine most of the work is installing the new cabinets and getting the fibre to them, but just wondered what had to happen at the exchange itself.
Steve.
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It all depends if the exchange is enabled, as with FTTC their are many parent exchanges where the work is done and the fibre goes out to the smaller exchange cabinets, with no work at those exchanges.
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Does an exchange start accepting orders when it is still showing as coming soon on the openreach website? I ask as i put in my mums post code and got this, she lives in the next village -
For Postcode PE34 3LL
Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial check on your postcode indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 1Mbps. However due to the length of your line the 1Mbps service may require an engineer visit who will, where possible, supply the broadband service.
Our check also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 2.5Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 1.5Mbps and 5Mbps.
Our check also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL2+ broadband line speed of 3.5Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 2Mbps and 6Mbps.
Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st December 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 72.1 Mbps and upstream line speed of 20 Mbps.
The actual stable line speed supportable will be determined during the first 10 days of use. This speed may change over time, to ensure line stability is maintained.
If you decide to place an order, a further test will be performed to confirm if your line is suitable for the service you wish to purchase.
Thank you for your interest.
Please note that dates and exchanges are indicative and subject to change.
Please note that postcode and address check results are indicative only. Most accurate results can be obtained from a telephone number check.
Note: Provision of some services may not be allowed due to product withdrawal, please contact your service provider for further details.
I know it says the cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st December 2012, but it also says below about placing an order?
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On the Openreach website where and when, coming soon means work is currently progressing on a exchange cabinets or will be shortly.
Any December date is likely to slip in 2013 due to the bad weather conditions in winter, so the checker would move to the 31st of March 2013.
The placing the order section is for current services avalaible at that postcode, which is asdl and asdl+2 services, you have to wait till the checker says that FTTC services are now live.
The best checker to use is the BT wholesale asdl checker with a BT number for the property.
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as it says "Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st December 2012. "
wont get it until then.
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Thanks for that,this exchange, Kings Lynn has already slipped from June 2012 to December2012, just hope it does'nt slip away any further!
Steve.
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I am confused here about the cabinet I am connected to I done some research about when i would be upgraded as a lot of places in my village are already on FTTC but when i search my postcode it shows me as planned to be receiving FTTP , here is the thing I used to search with http://fttc-check.alc.im/results.php?postcode=DN68HU that is my postcode. Does anyone have any more information on my cabinet and if I should be able to get fast fibre soon because this slow ADSL is killing me
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With FTTP your cabinet is not upgraded as fibre is taken from the exchange to your property via ducts/poles.
With towns that have a split coverage of FTTC/FTTP, only the FTTC half have been rolled out, with little to no progress on the FTTP side.
As to why this is happening their have been large delays in the installation of FTTP- FTTC is far faster to roll-out to a area, so it is believed that Openreach will return to FTTP before the end of the commercial deployment which ends November 2014.
The site you used to check your postcode uses the December 2011 data, since then their have been 2 more spreadsheets with updated data on the roll-out. It is possible that your postcode could have been changed to FTTC in a later stage of the roll-out.
Only Isp's have access to this data and they may be able to say if anything has changed on your postcode.
You can try this email below and ask what is happening for your postcode.
[email protected]
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Well this sucks I will seriously move houses if I have to wait until 2014 when 40 yards round the corner I could get 70mbit when ATM I am on less than 5mbit  . I will email the openreach and hope for a response from them thank you for the answer ccxo.
Edited by deleted (Fri 17-Aug-12 06:26:00)
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Given that the average house move costs several thousand pounds, you might as well look at bonded DSL or even a leased line for a year whilst you're waiting for FTTP - it may be cheaper!
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Would appreciate if someone could check postcode HX5 0PL please
(Victoria Road Elland
Thanks in advance
Keith
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Sorry - there's no mention of that postcode in the December 2011 data. However, see the PM I'm sending you in a moment. (Flashing icon in the menu bar when you refresh).
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Utility company has been digging up the village this week to connect the power to the cabinet, so fingers crossed,won't have to wait too much longer!
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just checked the bt wholesale checker and i got this-
Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial check on your address indicates that it is VERY UNLIKELY you will be able to receive fixed 512Kbps or 256Kbps broadband service due to the very long length of your telephone line. However, your order will be accepted if you still wish to order. An engineer may need to visit who will, where possible, supply the broadband service.
Our check also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 1Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 750Kbps and 2.5Mbps.
Our check also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL2+ broadband line speed of 1Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 1Mbps and 3.5Mbps.
Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 30.4 Mbps and upstream line speed of 5.7 Mbps.
The actual stable line speed supportable will be determined during the first 10 days of use. This speed may change over time, to ensure line stability is maintained.
If you decide to place an order, a further test will be performed to confirm if your line is suitable for the service you wish to purchase.
Thank you for your interest.
Please note that postcode and address check results are indicative only. Most accurate results can be obtained from a telephone number check.
Note: Provision of some services may not be allowed due to product withdrawal, please contact your service provider for further details.
When i checked it a couple of days ago it had a date of 31st december 2012 that the cabinet would be ready by?
As there is no date now does that mean this cab is live and i can order fibre?
Steve.
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As there is no date now does that mean this cab is live and i can order fibre?
Yup. If the exchange+cabinet aren't live, it gives you a date estimate.
Might be a mistake, of course. Should be pretty easy to find your cabinet though.
Edited by arfster (Fri 21-Sep-12 20:21:39)
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Spot on mate,install booked for 15th October,3 months before forcast date!!!
Steve.
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High-fives?
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Thanks RobertoS, can't wait to get some real speed at last!
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I am SUPER jealous right now, congrats
I guess it does go to show though, having no plans for FTTC @ your cab doesnt mean its the end of the world
My cab shows the same result as yours did in OP, fingers crossed
Enjoy your new connection
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Well, three weeks have passed quickly. Install due on Monday, BT checker said 30, and sky said 31when i ordered, wonder what the real speed will be! Anything will be beter than 1 meg! Will post the outcome.
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Today,the install day, i get a txt from sky at 11.30 to say the engineer missed my install appointment,in a rage i ring sky to complain.Get another txt an hour later saying new date is 5th november.Ring sky back in a bigger rage,install now booked for Wednesday this week.
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Connected at last! Openreach chap was in and out in just over 10 minutes and speed checker showing 29 down and 1.7 up. Happy so far.
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Thanks for that,just checked it again and now getting 4.9mb/s up.
Steve.
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After the first week connection is showing 24440 kbps down and 6028 kbps up.These stats are from the sky router as i hav'nt hacked the openreach box(any tips or an idiots guide!?) It seems that as upload speed goes up download speed goes down,is this the norm?
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Both download and upload connection speeds have gone down a bit today. Does the quality of cable from the master socket to the openreach modem have much of an impact on things?,the engineer said the existing cable would do the job. The cable in question is about 10 mtrs long and flat in profile.
Thanks.
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That sounds wrong. Very wrong.
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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 57.4/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Thanks for your opinion RobertoS, best i get on the blower to sky tomorrow then.He did'nt even fix the openreach moden to the wall, which i have since done as it was getting so hot,much better now.Is this a common problem? it's a Huawei HG612?
Thanks again,Steve.
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Both download and upload connection speeds have gone down a bit today. Does the quality of cable from the master socket to the openreach modem have much of an impact on things?,the engineer said the existing cable would do the job. The cable in question is about 10 mtrs long and flat in profile.
Thanks.
I changed the standard 2m(?) flat cable that came with the modem for a CAT5 cable and my sync speed went from 69 Mbps to 74 Mbps, so even the short one has some effect.
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Thanks for that Simon,is this something i should do myself or ring Sky to get Openreach back to do it?
Thanks,Steve.
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Sky, to get Openreach.
The modem is supposed to be connected using the short cable that comes with it. If you want it further away than that from the master then the free with installation "Home Wiring Solution", (Data Extension Cable), should have been ordered. Most ISPs order that just in case, as it costs nothing.
I believe the standing instructions to the engineers by Openreach are to wall mount it, though not doing is allowed if you request it. The early ones did tend to self-destruct from heat, the Type B, (see the label underneath), is usually OK. You should have a Type B as the early ones were supposed to be replaced free and not re-issued.
The router can be any valid ethernet distance away from the modem.
Sounds like another newbie engineer did it.
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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 57.4/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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It might be more convenient for Stevo to try one of these, just get the shortest one which will do the job - should work just as well as a data extension kit, if not better and may save taking a day off work.
Edit: This presumes that the master socket is installed correctly, as if it's not that will be causing problems to. master should be the first thing on the line into the house, all extensions should be run off the filtered terminals inside the face plate.
Edited by R0NSKI (Fri 26-Oct-12 08:12:56)
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Worth thinking about, as you say. Will solve the issue.
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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 57.4/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Many thanks for the replys.
RobertoS, the modem does have 3B on the back of it and a production date of 05/2012 on the box so hopefully this won't cook itself now it's on the wall.The engineer was in a hurry,basically fitted a new mastersocket,used the old cables,connected the modem and router and said that should work fine when you turn your pc on and he was gone.
RONSKI,thanks for the link for the cat6 cable,think i'll get one of those as like you say won't have to wait around for Openreach to turn up.
Thanks again,
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Replaced the modem cable yesterday with the one that you gave me the link for RONSKI.Had to go for a 7m cable as the master socket is upstairs. Sky router was showing 27116 down and 6000 up before it was changed and now shows 25864 down and 4760 up.Guess this will improve in time? Does DLM run all the time? Lastly would it be worthwhile unlocking the hg612 to get the stats and if so is it best to do it now or leave it a bit to see how the speed goes?
Many thanks,Stevo
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Just some Info for the Thread.
BT have accepted my order, and an engineer is due to visit, despite:-
the openreach where and when checker still showing as coming december 2012
and, no announcement from the BT twitter feed saying the exchange is live.
and i had BT double check with openreach that its all correct. the cab is live.
So the BT database, updates a lot faster than that website.
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One week on from replacing modem cable and speed is still on a downward slope. Unlocked the hg612 earlier today,if anyone can understand the following please tell me.
Welcome Visiting Huawei Home Gateway
Copyright by Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
Login:admin
Password:
ATP>sh
BusyBox v1.9.1 (2010-10-15 17:59:06 CST) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
# xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 6187 Kbps, Downstream rate = 28868 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 4996 Kbps, Downstream rate = 22308 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.0 6.9
Attn(dB): 0.0 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 11.6 4.9
VDSL2 framing
Path 0
B: 31 141
M: 1 1
T: 64 8
R: 12 16
S: 0.0456 0.9020
L: 7717 1428
D: 1431 1
I: 44 161
N: 44 161
Counters
Path 0
OHF: 6234742 654906
OHFErr: 159 27
RS: 2394140386 1273352
RSCorr: 485532 117
RSUnCorr: 34201 0
Path 0
HEC: 7249 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 1174086318 0
Data Cells: 71169089 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0
ES: 16 27
SES: 1 0
UAS: 75 75
AS: 27409
Path 0
INP: 8.50 0.00
PER: 4.37 16.23
delay: 16.00 0.00
OR: 54.80 128.60
Bitswap: 6453 170
Total time = 8 hours 3 min 19 sec
FEC: 489695 123
CRC: 159 28
ES: 16 27
SES: 1 0
UAS: 75 75
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 19 sec
FEC: 1953 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 7608 3
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 8 hours 3 min 19 sec
FEC: 489695 123
CRC: 159 28
ES: 16 27
SES: 1 0
UAS: 75 75
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Since Link time = 7 hours 36 min 49 sec
FEC: 485532 117
CRC: 159 27
ES: 16 26
SES: 1 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
#
Many thanks for any feedback,Steve.
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Please can we have the xdslcmd info --pbParams output  .
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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 52.9/14.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Here they are-
# xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 2
Max: Upstream rate = 4693 Kbps, Downstream rate = 28712 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 4957 Kbps, Downstream rate = 22446 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195) (1984,2771)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959) (2792,4083)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959)
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate: 4693 kbps 28712 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power: 6.4 dBm 11.6 dBm
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VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 5.2 53.5 64.9 N/A 22.2 65.6 0.1
Signal Attenuation(dB): 5.2 53.0 N/A N/A 22.2 65.6 N/A
SNR Margin(dB): 6.0 5.3 N/A N/A 5.7 0.0 N/A
TX Power(dBm): -3.6 6.0 N/A N/A 11.6 -128.0 N/A
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Please can anyone shed some light on the stats i have posted,i hav'nt a clue what the figures mean,do they look ok?or is this about all the line can handle, or should i be on the phone to sky? as it is nearly 10 meg less than their estimate.
Thanks, Steve.
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If back tracking this long thread correctly, you suggested around 0.5 mile from cabinet, i.e. ~800m and
28 Meg down is about right for that speed. It does not take much error in the estimate for this to be 1000m and match the speeds you are seeing.
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 4957 Kbps, Downstream rate = 22446 Kbps
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/guide/fibre-broadband....
The speed drop off with VDSL2 is very steep.
The attenuations and band utilisation seems to point towards a long line,
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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Well, 5 months down the road with the speed slowly dropping to just over 20meg, which i thought was just because of more people being connected. Went on ebay and bought an eci modem(eci cab).Hooked it up and speed dropped slightly,then the next day the sky router is showing 26732 down!
Result!
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