Enough backhaul? (80/20)

Will the BT network even be able to cope with loads of people on the new speeds (80/20)? I'm a bit concerned myself, I think they may end up introducing some kind of management to cope with this. When I read it was a free upgrade (yeah, yeah, contract renewal) I wasn't very pleased because of the impact it could have on the network.

Also, it's not looking good for the smaller providers, but a lot of there customers are business users who are already paying a premium for the CS so I suppose they'll probably be willing to pay even more.

How many people currently max out their 40Mbps connection continuously? Very, very few.

Will getting an 80Mbps connection change a users habits? Probably not, or if it does, by just a little. Films will down load faster - but no extra data ... so the big downloads for most families will just happen in 60 seconds instead of 100 seconds!

There might be a little extra congestion at some of the really peak times but in general, I feel it will not have an impact in the near future.

The quicker you can get something the better.. Chances of everyone downloading a film for example at the same time gets slimmer.


So we shall see very soon.

80/20 is looking pretty pointless. Unless the results of throughput fall below 12Mbps BTw won't accept speed complaints!

In reply to a post by jelv:

80/20 is looking pretty pointless. Unless the results of throughput fall below 12Mbps BTw won't accept speed complaints!

That doesn't necessarily mean that the ISP won't strive to fix a problem, but I agree that this 12Mbps figure for the acceptance of formal BTw fault reports needs changing to something realistic.

In reply to a post by CommandQ:

Will the BT network even be able to cope with loads of people on the new speeds (80/20)? I'm a bit concerned myself, I think they may end up introducing some kind of management to cope with this. When I read it was a free upgrade (yeah, yeah, contract renewal) I wasn't very pleased because of the impact it could have on the network.

Also, it's not looking good for the smaller providers, but a lot of there customers are business users who are already paying a premium for the CS so I suppose they'll probably be willing to pay even more.

its sort of like adsl2+ it seems a big chunk of people wont get the top sync speed so it wont be everyone on the higher speeds.

I agree with the thumbs down on the free upgrade, and I hope BT themselves realise 'some' extra capacity will be required and I hope they have already planned and got the capacity in place needed. So far tho BT seem to have learned from past mistakes and infinity has ran well according to customer reports.

Is it 12 for 40/10 and 40/2 as well?

If so that's plain stupid. Why should ISPs (and their users if the ISP charges more) for something which is going to go at the same speed at the time they want to use it?

And what was the figure for the up to 24 Meg ADSL2+ products?

The up to 80 is really the burst speed, rather than the committed rate per user. In most cases it will be the providers backhaul that is the limiting factor, rather than the multiple fibres from the cabinet to the exchange.

If it is the same on all of them, the difference is that when contention is not bad (majority of the time) they will see better.

Now for people who lose sleep if their hourly speedtest is not with 20% of maximum speed it may be an issue.

There are two download speeds. If you are paying extra for 80/20 and your sync is near 80 I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to be faster that 40/10 - i.e. at least 40.