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Standard User Stoo
(regular) Mon 23-Jul-12 18:06:59
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Help deciphering planning notes on Elgin?


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Could some kind soul help decipher the following please?

CLEAR BLOCKAGE IN F/W O/S NO42, IN C/W JCN HOLLINGSWORTH ROAD IN OULTON ROAD...
654133,294095, CLEAR BLOCKAGES IN F/W O/S 19 IN OULTON ROAD,...

What does the F/W O/S and C/W mean?
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(deleted) Mon 23-Jul-12 18:32:37
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Footwell, outside, something like that
Standard User Stoo
(regular) Mon 23-Jul-12 18:55:01
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Not what C/W is, unless it's something along the lines of Conjunction With?

I've still no activation date for my cab, despite the exchange now being active, and as far as I can tell, all work being completed on the DSLAM (Power installed, tie cables done, etc), the only thing I can think of is that perhaps the feeder cable can't get through because of a blockage, but if that's the case, I'm not sure why they would have put the tie cables in..

Might send off an email to Ian Livingston's office and see if I can get an estimate or a reason from them smile


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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Mon 23-Jul-12 19:05:35
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Footway ( a box on the footpath)

c/w corner/with

The numbers are northings and eastings, an accurate description of the location.

Basically, blocked ducts, stopping the blown fibre tubes being pulled in, prior to the fibre feed to the DSLAM or DSLAM's being fed. Contractors go to site, clear the blockages allowing work to progress.

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F/W - footway box
O/S - outside
C/W - carriageway box

Saves a lot of typing, but pretty incomprehensible for most readers.

654133,294095 - the easting and northing of a location, based on the Ordnance Survey grid
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(deleted) Mon 23-Jul-12 20:17:02
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In reply to a post by kmendum:
F/W - footway box
O/S - outside
C/W - carriageway box

Saves a lot of typing, but pretty incomprehensible for most readers.

654133,294095 - the easting and northing of a location, based on the Ordnance Survey grid


What he said except FW is pavement, footway. Rather than a box.CW is in the road, carriageway rather than a box.

They are digging out blocked ducts.

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Standard User Stoo
(regular) Mon 23-Jul-12 22:42:29
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Cheers chaps, I knew about clearing the ducts, just wasn't sure what the shorthand was referring too smile
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(deleted) Tue 24-Jul-12 00:26:16
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FYI the info on ELGIN / Roadworks.org are not planning notes.

The info is either for current or planned streetworks (roadworks) which have either had or do not require planning (most common occurrence).

The works described may be linked to FTTC works or just general Openreach fault works.

You can setup warnings from ELGIN so that it emails you details on works based on the criteria you set out. You can simply map an area around a BT cabinet (if you watching for FTTC works) and whenever works are plotted in that area you will receive an email with the info. Saves you having to keep checking it to find out what's happening.
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 24-Jul-12 07:05:17
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Just to be pedantic. Carriageway boxes are not always in the road, it refers to the type of box, not it's positioning. JRC11 etc, etc.

Standard User Stoo
(regular) Tue 24-Jul-12 19:41:10
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Yup, I know that, it's just a turn of phase smile

Given that they're referring to clearing ducting, it's not hard to work out which are FTTC related and which aren't.

I'm not 100% sure which route the fibre is taking to get to the DSLAM, but I suspect the delay in activating the cabinet is down to the two works mentioned in the original post.

I was just curious about the shorthand - a 100% bulletproof legally clear response isn't required wink
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No problems, just wanting to help others who may read this and not understand the difference between planning permissions and the Streetworks permits/notices.

There will likely be a lot of duct clearing that is linked to FTTC rollout but the works descriptions will not mention as such.

The other works to keep an eye out for is for the power connections to cabinets which will be under the electrical utilities� own permit/notice. The description will usually state something similar to providing a new service but, again, may not distinguish from FTTC or private property provision (though if the permit is plotted near a BT cab location then it�s highly likely that it�s for FTTC).
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This is not referring to a box. It's referring to blockages in the footway and carriageway.

But let's test your pedantry now you know CW stands for 'carriageway' rather than 'corner with'. For for a bit if fun and a CSE quiz see if you can decode what the letters in JRC stand for?

Obviously J is for jointbox and C is for carriageway, What's the R for? smile

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Standard User Stoo
(regular) Tue 24-Jul-12 23:33:58
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Rectal knowing BT wink laugh
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(regular) Tue 24-Jul-12 23:37:59
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*nods*

Yup, for my local cab though, the power is already in (I watched them hook into the street lamp supply), I saw them do the tie cables, so I think it's just the blockages stopping them getting the fibre out.

I feel sorry for the poor sods over the south of the town - they've got to wait until a special engineering team can come in to get the fibre across the river!

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Reinforced. Do I win anything smile
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Well done. You win a pair of golden tee keys.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Wed 25-Jul-12 18:42:58
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What he said smilesmilesmile

Never carried a lifter, ideal 'get out of jail free' card on a Saturday afternoon. Do absolutely everything else, but to misquote Meatloaf, I won't do that.

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Shame. I was going to award you a silent generator for your blower smile

jR - reinforced concrete
jU - unreinforced concrete
jB - brick.

I would be interested if anyone can decode manhole chamber shorthand cos I can't make head nor tail of that.

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