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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Aug-12 15:32:31
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FTTP on demand trial


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Hi,
We have now opened up the FTTP on demand trial to non Vivaciti customers, if you are interested and on one of the exchanges where the trial is running, let us know.
Further details can be found on our forums Here

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 22-Aug-12 15:42:57
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Silly point, but when you say non Vivaciti customers, you mean you can join and be part of the trial. In short you do not need to be an existing customer to take part.

BTW got any in the Edinburgh Waverly area as someone was asking.

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Standard User R0NSKI
(committed) Wed 22-Aug-12 15:47:50
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Re: FTTP on demand trial


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looking on the link he posted, the answer is yes to the exchange, and he does say non existing customers.

Edited by R0NSKI (Wed 22-Aug-12 15:49:08)


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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Aug-12 15:50:42
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Correct, at the start of the trial we only looked at existing customers, now we have opened it up to everyone else (same as our original FTTP trial)
That exchange goes live as pert of the trial in September, we have 2 queued up for it at the moment, but can't put them through until it is opened up.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 22-Aug-12 17:29:30
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will any other exchanges be added to the list or is that all the testing they will be doing?

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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Aug-12 18:00:12
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They are the only exchanges we have been notified of at present.

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Edited by vivaciti (Wed 22-Aug-12 18:26:30)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 22-Aug-12 18:18:43
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" FTTP connection speed of up to 3330MB down and up to 30MB up"

Wow, that's some download speed.....




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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 22-Aug-12 18:20:47
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Damn - got beaten to it.

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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Aug-12 18:25:46
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Oops sticky 3 key (could have been good!)
Edited, thanks for pointing it out.

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(committed) Thu 23-Aug-12 00:01:04
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What equipment is needed in the home to connect to the incoming fibre? Can the fibre be extended in anyway by the home owner?

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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Thu 23-Aug-12 06:49:28
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It will have a network port terminated at your home the same way that FTTC is installed, so a router with a WAN port that will handle the faster speeds.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 23-Aug-12 09:03:05
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Ummm?

The couple of picture links posted here somewhere look to be rather more complex than an FTTC installation. Or am I confusing things with phone through fibre at the same time? Yes, I agree the user broadband equipment is just a router connected to the DSL point.

IIRC there were some new-build "both through fibre" that looked horrendous.

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Administrator MrSaffron
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Small fibre termination box on outside of property, e.g. in utility cupboard for a flat.
Small more robust fibre running inside property to where the modem is located.
Then ethernet link between that modem and the chosen router.

Phone through fibre just makes use of the extra ports on the modem, so adds a bit more wiring.

It may look worse in cases where with the phone, there is also the battery backup, to meet emergency phone requirements

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 23-Aug-12 09:25:47
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It may look worse in cases where with the phone, there is also the battery backup, to meet emergency phone requirements
Yes, I think that was it. In a new build, with a complete mess in the corner of a room.

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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Thu 23-Aug-12 09:40:20
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Well of course an install is only as good as the person doing it, but should just be an FTTx modem bolted onto the wall, Fibre being run from outside box to inside modem and that presenting an RJ45 port, if going down the phone route (we have not done any with phone through fibre yet) but then you get a small in effect UPS backup for the power.

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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Thu 23-Aug-12 15:39:17
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Better luck next time smile

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Thu 23-Aug-12 16:58:51
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To be fair, the ONTE and battery back up, when wall mounted, look neat enough. The customer splice point is about 6 inches by 4, the blown fibre tube is just a little thicker than a dropwire. The rugged fibre from CSP, (let's get up to speed on the acronyms,) to the ONTE,looks like CAT5.

If voice is over fibre also, then a lead from one of the two PSTN jacks on the bottom of the ONTE will be run to the existing NTE. This then has an interstitial face plate, allowing switching from fibre to copper based products.

Standard User Michael_Chare
(committed) Thu 23-Aug-12 19:47:59
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Thanks, how much are your customers being charged for the connections, and how are BT deciding on the connection charge?

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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Thu 23-Aug-12 21:15:54
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There is no connection or construction charge at all.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 23-Aug-12 22:13:17
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The joy of a trial

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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Fri 24-Aug-12 08:49:26
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Considering what we think OR would charge for excess constructions charges etc not to mention the normal activation charge.

These trials are never anywhere near us frown

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Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Thu 30-Aug-12 10:09:01
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We now have some more spaces for the trial for anyone hat enquired but was told there was no further spaces at the time.

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