Cabinet camouflage

On Monday there was a serious mini-debate in Parliament about the camouflaging of FTTC cabinets. They seemed unaware that there are many already in situ.

ROFL.

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 23-Oct-12 00:10:21)

Who is "they" in the context of your OP?

The MPs participating in the debate .

Ah! Message understood now . OP edited.

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 23-Oct-12 00:11:28)

Don't suppose you happen to have a link to the Hansard transcript if there is one?

Lazy today, as a desk full of stuff to do.

What time - approximately?

Dunno, it was on "Today in Parliament" at 11:30pm, which jumps around a fair bit.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201213/ld...

2:45 pm in the House of Lords

Post deleted by RobertoS

See my reply ... It was in the Lords.

I just happened to be going through Hansard for some other info when I saw Mr S's post.

As no-one seemed to bother finding it

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201213/ld...

Slightly funny, slightly worrying, and remember this is the group that recommended the Digital Hubs in every community which would likely be bigger as different operators would have to be able to install their own optical kit on the ends of the fibre.

Noble Lords: Oh!

lol

In reply to a post by MHC:

See my reply ... It was in the Lords.

Yes, thanks - I saw that and deleted mine, before I saw this .

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

Noble Lords: Oh!

lol

Even better:

in some cases there will be overhead cabling, some of which, instead of going into the street cabinets, can be placed inside church steeples, which is a good use for churches.

I wonder what the Lords Spiritual think of that.

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4171746-re-...

Posted 7 minutes before yours!

oh dear, our noble lords are so out of touch, at least one of them seemed to have some idea.

But they did not hesitate to ask questions ... Lord West "I am so low on the learning curve ..." Could you imagine an MP admitting that?

In reply to a post by R0NSKI:

oh dear, our noble lords are so out of touch, at least one of them seemed to have some idea.

Yes, hoorah for Baroness Gardner!

"Baroness Gardner of Parkes: For the benefit of the whole House, for those who do not know, is the broadband cabinet the equivalent of a walk-in telephone box or is it, as I understood from the supplementary question, a container for equipment?"

cheers, a

Was busy reading it - my only excuse.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

On Monday there was a serious mini-debate in Parliament about the camouflaging of FTTC cabinets. They seemed unaware that there are many already in situ.

ROFL.

They should make the ones around here blend into the hedge they are against. Saying that someone may try to cut them in half with a hedge trimmer.

i think someone already tried to take out the fibre Cab with a car other the weekend

According to Wikipedia, Lord West in his RN days, "qualified as a Principal Warfare Officer in 1975 and then served as operations officer in the frigate HMS Juno in 1976 and then the frigate HMS Ambuscade in 1977. Promoted to lieutenant commander on 1 April 1978 he attended the Royal Navy Staff College that year and then qualified as an Advanced Warfare Officer before being posted to the destroyer HMS Norfolk in 1979. In October 1997 he was promoted to vice admiral and Chief of Defence Intelligence. He completed his term as First Sea Lord on 6 February 2006 and was succeeded by Admiral Sir Jonathon Band.

Interesting...

Cheers!

And he was CO of HMS Ardent when she was sunk in the Falklands.

What are you saying? That as former chief spook, Lord West must know a thing or two about hiding stuff?!

Getting back to basics, it's taken several years to find our PCP/SCP. And all the disguise our cabinet had was a hedge of nettles and a heap of rubbish left by the gypsies. After a quick tidy-up, we found weeds growing *out* of the cabinet! Proof that camouflaging can be done, and it needn't cost an arm and a leg!

cheers, a

Edited by deleted (Wed 24-Oct-12 04:09:45)

In reply to a post by asbokid:

All the disguise our cabinet had was a hedge of nettles and a heap of rubbish left by the gypsies. After a quick tidy-up, we found weeds growing *out* of the cabinet! Proof that camouflaging can be done, and it needn't cost an arm and a leg!

Are you sure it didn't while the gypsies were around.

Mice quite like chewing through cables as well. A nice warm FTTC cabinet sounds an ideal nesting spot.

Given the neighbours, perhaps we're lucky to still have a cabinet! Hopefully the fibre cabinets are closed to vermin (furry species). Is that why the fibre ducts are sealed up with expanding foam, epoxy resin or some such?

cheers, a

One in Stamford was supposed to be sand coloured (Council planning stipulation) as it's stood in front of a stone wall in a generally honey coloured stone landscape.

It's actually green,

Perhaps they'll respray it if anyone notices and complains.

In reply to a post by yarwell:

Perhaps they'll respray it if anyone notices and complains.

You mean they'll cross that bridge when they come to it?

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by yarwell:

Perhaps they'll respray it if anyone notices and complains.

You mean they'll cross that bridge when they come to it?

Makes me wonder why parliament and planning people didn't kick up a massive fuss in the early 90s when cable was installing its cabinets. The ones in my area and my parents are so fragile the doors get kicked in and then they're left as an eyesore for the next 10 years. That's Eurobell, and CableTel areas (now both VM). Pretty poor show when the water gets in!

At least the FTTC cabs look pretty tough by comparison. The PCPs vary though.

Locally, the siting of unsightly new parking meters has followed little rhyme or reason. And it can be a protracted nightmare getting them moved once installed.

Got a sneaking suspicion that the planners making these decisions are doing so from the comfort of their offices. In terms of 'getting it right' when it comes to siting street furniture, there's no substitute for braving the Great British weather and getting out for a site visit.

Presumably for a parking meter, the Planning Applicant is also the Planning Authority. Not unlike that Two Ronnies sketch!

At least with the fibre cabinets, the Planning Authority is performing an oversight, however perfunctory, under powers delegated to an individual officer.

cheers, a

Edited by deleted (Wed 24-Oct-12 15:12:10)

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Makes me wonder why parliament and planning people didn't kick up a massive fuss in the early 90s when cable was installing its cabinets. The ones in my area and my parents are so fragile the doors get kicked in and then they're left as an eyesore for the next 10 years. That's Eurobell, and CableTel areas (now both VM). Pretty poor show when the water gets in!

At least the FTTC cabs look pretty tough by comparison. The PCPs vary though.

Indeed, all the reports of 'open cab doors' I've attended have been for cable company cabinets, the biggest waste of time for Openreach engineers - now I just look on google street view when I get one of these - see if its even one of ours. Save a drive & the environment etc.

The new FTTC cabs are tough, possibly more so then the current steel PCP shell's,

Edited by deleted (Wed 24-Oct-12 20:31:49)