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Standard User pstones578
(learned) Thu 08-Nov-12 12:02:13
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Will I ever get Fibre? :-( Exchange enabled but cant get it


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My exchange has been enabled for ages. I am in Bolton on the LCBOL exchange which is fibre enabled. I wish there was some way of finding out if I will ever be able to get fibre as I'm always wondering/wishing.

Is there anyone who can help me please?
Standard User pete_thomson
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 08-Nov-12 12:21:49
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Do you have a cab (you might have an EO line)
Have you located your your cab?
Have you checked to see which phase your cab is in?
If it's the current phase has the DSLAM cab been installed near it?
If it's there, does it appear to be running?

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Standard User R0NSKI
(experienced) Thu 08-Nov-12 13:22:05
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Try you're postcode in this checker

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/fibre/checker.php

Bare in mind the data it's based on is a year old.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 08-Nov-12 13:34:20
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If it is showing exchange only that data should still be relevant, and I also have tried to integrate some of the newer data, hence the two sets of results.

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Standard User R0NSKI
(experienced) Thu 08-Nov-12 15:33:16
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As should the pcp number if he's on a cabinet, it's just whether he'll get fibre or not that could of changed.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 08-Nov-12 17:09:59
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The December 2011 spreadsheets did not include anything like all the exchanges - i.e.all those announced later. SO the OP's postcode may simply not be there.

Although Andrew has made a stab at integrating the later exchanges, he has no cabinet info for them.

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Standard User pstones578
(learned) Thu 08-Nov-12 20:45:46
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There is a 90% chance I am in cabinet P128 and a 9% chance I'm in the exchange, 1% chance of neither of these two apparently. P128 is not in a phase, no data available. God knows where that leaves me.
Standard User ccxo
(experienced) Thu 08-Nov-12 21:40:41
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The 1% is a rounding error from the spreadsheet, the spreadsheet was from December 2011 and since then their have been more recent versions released with each new announcement, none of these have been leaked.

Its possible that your cabinet could be part of a future phase, Openreach are known to return to areas and infill where the rollout had initially passed.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 08-Nov-12 23:10:06
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Find cab 128 and see if there are any signs of FTTC work. These pics may help, if you are familiar with what to look for. Especially in distinguishing from VM. One trick is the numbering - BT PCPs are 3 digits or fewer numbers, VM are long.

Assuming you are not on VM cable or full LLU phone at the moment, this checker, using your phone number is the best available. If your phone number is cable or LLU, then the address might be OK. The postcode will be useless as you have already established the result would be uncertain.

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Standard User Bob_s2
(committed) Fri 09-Nov-12 08:36:53
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Does Cabinet P128 say it is Unplanned. If it does it is likely to be in the Commercial rollout.

As 9% of the lines are EO lines it is possible you are one of those. This means there is currently no known date for it.

To try to establish if you are an EO line the best bet is to try the Royal Mail Post Code checker. THis will list all the addresses on that Postcode. The chances are that the 9% will be at one end of the street.

You could also contact whoever is responsible for the BDUK rollout in your areas. Some are more helpful than others most will tell you whether you are in the assisted
rollout or not.

The other option is to contact BT giving them your phone number if a BT line or your house number and full postcode if not a BT line. In most cases they will them tell you if you are in the commercial rollout althouhgh BT beuing BT are not always consistant and in some cases do not give a specific answer.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 09-Nov-12 09:02:19
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
Does Cabinet P128 say it is Unplanned.
The December 2011 data is totally useless for that purpose now. There are known to have been three updates since. Almost certainly now four or five.
If it does it is likely to be in the Commercial rollout.
Which therefore does not follow. We have no idea whether or not cabinet 128 is now planned.
To try to establish if you are an EO line the best bet is to try the Royal Mail Post Code checker. THis will list all the addresses on that Postcode. The chances are that the 9% will be at one end of the street.
I've not heard that one before. Sounds a good idea. Often it also turns out to be a new estate somewhere in the middle, but I agree they will probably be grouped.
You could also contact whoever is responsible for the BDUK rollout in your areas. Some are more helpful than others most will tell you whether you are in the assisted rollout or not.
Again worth a try, but tempered by the possibility it may now be OR-scheduled and nothing to do with BDUK.

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Standard User Bob_s2
(committed) Fri 09-Nov-12 09:41:54
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Piostcodes normall cover quite a smallnumber of homes typicly nomore than about 50 so a new estate is likely to have a different postcode.

Who ever is responsible for the BDUK rollout in the area will in many cases if you give themyour house number and Postcode tell you whether you are in the Assisted or Commercial Rollout. They would also tell you whether you are in neither.
Clearly some of the BDUK schmes may not be far enough down the road yet but most are as that is one of the early stagesb as you need to know how many homes are not in the commercial rollout. Another posibility is that a few that are currently in the Assisted rollout may move to the Commercial rollout


I don't really see why at this stage BT does not declare everything that is in the commercial rollout. It is hardly commercial & confidential at this stage and in anycase most of the BDUK areas are planning to put upa Web Site at a very detailed level sothat you can see if you are in the BDUK scheme and when it will be rolled out. THatmeans you know what BT is doing commerciallyso BT are being aa bit silly.
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