Interesting, but it's Q1-2013 before it starts as a trial, apparently with a fairly high fee for an ISP to join the trial. It's also worth noting that a normal FTTC or FTTP GEA connection charge rises on 1 April 2013 from £80 to £92, both plus Vat.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

Just for the bored I noted that Openreach will shortly be trialling FTTC installs where the engineer attends the cabinet only, leaving the ISP to take care of sending out a modem and the customer installing it.

FTTC goes wires only!

Thank god I got mine sorted before that. Got a nice new BT openreach installed extension for free. There are going to be a lot of disappointed punters out there who upgrade from their slow adsl to slow fibre, because the source of their problem is the internal wiring.

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

I would asume BT would still offer a full install including a home visit for those that want one

PCP-Only Indicative Launch Pricing
To assist CPs with their business cases for the introduction of PCP-Only and/or engineer install of a CP's VDSL-capable device, we are pleased to indicate the following indicative launch connection price ranges:

PCP-Only Indicative Launch Price Range
£40 to £50

Managed Install without Openreach modem Indicative Launch Price Range
£95 to £100

Plus Vat of course.

Yes but that is offset against other price cuts such as reduced line rental

I suspect that as with ADSL those that have very long lines may be required to have a BT home visit

It will mean the openreach modem will get installed in that extension socket where the current broadband is installed which drops out constantly due to internal wiring problems...

I don't see this actually giving anybody a better service in the end. It might make things cheaper / quicker install times.

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

Yes but that is offset against other price cuts such as reduced line rental

4ppm if passed onto the end user? I doubt if that will help us.

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

It will mean the openreach modem will get installed in that extension socket where the current broadband is installed which drops out constantly due to internal wiring problems...

I don't see this actually giving anybody a better service in the end. It might make things cheaper / quicker install times.

But won't we have fun sorting them out !

I did that last week, I couldnt find a single vdsl modem sold in the uk apart from openreach ones on ebay or the friztbox.

zyxel seems lead contender as cheapest.