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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-Jan-13 11:44:17
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Re: BT - 34mb on test, but 24mb wireless !


[re: izools] [link to this post]
 
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You need 5 GHz wireless-N.

Agreed!

I would get inSSIDer installed first though - its free.

http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Estimate 44.6/6.5 - Install 52/12 - Actual 46 / 8 Mbps
13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)
Standard User Daniel_g
(committed) Tue 01-Jan-13 13:31:33
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Re: BT - 34mb on test, but 24mb wireless !


[re: clarkac] [link to this post]
 
Hello

Is the HH in the advanced setting for wireless on b,g and n.

mine connects at 144mbs on the right click of the connected network on botton right hand side on taskbar.

I get this on it.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2406627666.png

no different to the 5Ghz router I also have and use as only me on that band. have 2 routers, the bt one and a 5Ghz netgear.

Worth a look in the settings.
Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-Jan-13 13:54:48
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Re: BT - 34mb on test, but 24mb wireless !


[re: izools] [link to this post]
 
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2.4GHz is too crowded, as you've found out.

That is the assumption, but the OP has not mentioned that he has actually checked this.

DrT

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Standard User ferretuk
(learned) Wed 02-Jan-13 10:04:11
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Re: BT - 34mb on test, but 24mb wireless !


[re: clarkac] [link to this post]
 
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Tried a couple of channel changes, which only made matters worse. I guess the problem is my laptop's wireless which although running as 'n' is effectively stuck at 'g'. I have no idea why though.


What encryption are you using? WEP or WPA/TKIP will limit the connection to 802.11g speeds.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 02-Jan-13 10:43:33
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Re: BT - 34mb on test, but 24mb wireless !


[re: Bob_s2] [link to this post]
 
Wrong again ... with your first statement which is contradicted by your almost correct second statement.

Wireless is faster than wired - and the difference mainly depends on the insulation material and dielectric constant. I don't have the figures to hand but when compared to twisted pairs/Cat5e it is around 15% faster and can be more and with coax around 50% faster.

The difference may be down in atto-seconds but it is still there.

What changes it and makes wireless systems have an apparent greater latency (assuming no competing signals) is the conversion from Ethernet to radio and back again.


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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 02-Jan-13 12:32:17
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Re: BT - 34mb on test, but 24mb wireless !


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Try whilst being RIGHT next to the router. So the laptops basically touching it.
You get better throughput on 802.11n MIMO if there's stuff in the way and reflections - it uses multipath constructively.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 02-Jan-13 12:36:54
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[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
That's a very bold statement.

Even with Mimo if there's stuff in the way it doesn't generally make it better.

E.g. Put a wall between the router and the laptop that WILL be slower than being in the same room as the router with no obstructions.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Wed 02-Jan-13 12:37:09)

Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 02-Jan-13 13:13:28
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[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
the first time I tried an 802.11n device and router I had them next to each other as you suggested, and the throughput was rubbish. I opened a filing cabinet drawer and put the receiver at the opposite side of it and the throughput increased quite a lot, more obstructions in the same room also helped. So it wasn't as black and white as I expected.

Put a wall between the two and the SNR margin may be lower if it's still at full speed, it's a "very bold statement" to say that it WILL be slower - depends on the wall etc.

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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Standard User Uilebheist
(legend) Wed 02-Jan-13 13:20:37
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[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
I've observed the same. Router on a desk, and laptop on the same desk = rubbish (but of course it was easy enough to use a wired connection!)
However, the laptop had a good connection in the next room.
Never could figure that out. However it didn't worry me too much as that was at a friend's place and I don't necessarily need full speed when I visit them.
Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 02-Jan-13 13:21:51
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[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
Standard brick wall. I have yet to see a situation where it's faster through a solid wall.
Certainly any obstruction isn't good.

Your theory works in some ways.

Being right next to the router can mean that you're not getting the full advantage of mimo. That is all of the antennas broadcasting.
Moving say 30cm away can give these advantages.

Obstructions though will NEVER help unless they're acting as say a cantenna does (very rare).
Also reflecting of wifi isn't ever going to help. It just makes the environment more noisy.

So yes being say 30 cm away may help.
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