3, at last count.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Why doesn't it say "owned"? It's poor wording.

That's the trouble with consumer contracts, where you've had no hand in framing them. You look for some wording that you want to find but the other party has not worded them as you would expect.

EDIT: I did think that "This modem is part of the Openreach network" was fairly definitive.

Anyway, I think it is all a moot point. While I'm convinced the property is vested in OR. experience shows that individual OR engs who come to premises just don't care despite the policy of their firm.

Edited by XRaySpeX (Sun 06-Jan-13 13:21:12)

.... the VDSL modem remains the property of Openreach according to the letter of the 'law' however for practical purposes they aren't bothered what SPs or end users do with them.

No different from Virgin Media and their legacy cable modems, remained their property at all times but made no attempt to recover them.

I disagree as I have been informed otherwise.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

I disagree as I have been informed otherwise.

The information you were given, and the form in which it was given, is probably legally binding in your case.

That doesn't mean, or even imply, that the person telling you so was correct. It has no relevance whatsoever to anyone else's modem.

Good job I suggested everyone asking Openreach themselves, really.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

is probably legally binding in your case.

In which case, how many peppercorns did he pay in consideration for the modem?

Edited by XRaySpeX (Sun 06-Jan-13 18:55:54)

Not having FTTC, I don't have any experience of those modems.

However, the NTE5 is generally recognised as being BT Openreach property; and the customer should not access or interfere with the wiring behind it, onward back to the Cabinet and/or Exchange.

Where does the wiring for those modems originate from locally-

a) The front hence customer side of the NTE5

b) The back/Openreach side of the NTE5

c) Or is it totally different?

Interstitial VDSL/ADSL filter - similar in appearance to the iPlate but with a VDSL/ADSL socket at the top. Ther's a picture of mine on this page.

The interstitial plate is clearly Openreach, as it feeds the NTE5A.