The first £3400 (exc VAT) of charges will not be raised for the first line provided at the site.

So if I was buying a new build house that had no Openreach connectivity yet? I could potentially request fibre to be ran instead and have £3400 knocked off the bill?

I say this because i've just put a deposit down to buy a new build house off plan!

that was tongue in cheek speculation. The £3400 exemption applies to a phone line to a new property, so there is at least half an argument to apply the same to a fibre equivalent.

There is a footnote to the ECC pricing table :-

"If the customer requests a method of providing service which is more costly than the least cost network solution Openreach would normally provide it will charge the customer the actual charges for this requested method of providing service less the lower of either:

(a) the exemption or;

(b) the full charges for the least cost network solution"

If your house is in a new development the developer could provide FTTP ducting or indeed an FTTP solution to all the houses, which would be the most cost effective solution.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Now looking for definition of the bands

Andrew,

I'm pretty sure, remembering that these are wholesale prices, those bands are only relevant for ISPs who are rolling the install costs into an ongoing charge. As with WLR 3 they pre-authorise Wholesale to go to a certain charge band and they then place the order.

I don't think these actually have any relevance to the end user.

I really hope you're right about it only being the final drop that's excess charges!

In reply to a post by mabibby:

The first £3400 (exc VAT) of charges will not be raised for the first line provided at the site.

So if I was buying a new build house that had no Openreach connectivity yet? I could potentially request fibre to be ran instead and have £3400 knocked off the bill?

I say this because i've just put a deposit down to buy a new build house off plan!

Nope - unless the estate is to be all Virgin Media the developer will have already arranged Openreach connection and you can't order fibre until you've an address to order it to.

Sorry

Only if a broadband uso was put in place though or phone could only possibly be supplied using fibre voice access than.

I really hope you're right about it only being the final drop that's excess charges!

You would hope the £50+ per month * 36 months was contributing something to the capital cost

You will pay a share for the 440m the final 60m drop is in the fixed 500 fee

Making one person pay for 32 way splitter totally is unfair, same with the manifold.

Well it's certainly following the principle of charging for the service provided, rather than on a cost-plus basis!

Am i reading the ECC list right, and are Openreach proposing to allow Fiber to go via existing telegraph poles?

If so this will massively cut the costs for a lot of people, where they are serviced via telegraph poles, and will make it affordable. Some basic calculations if this is true

1000m run on poles would be £~10,000 for BT
1000m underground (roads) would be £~150,000

Massive Difference in price. For the first figure if it is say 20 properties serviced at the end, then would only be £500 each (+£500 connection charge), while for underground would be close to £10,000 each.

It seems to be if you aren't connected by Telegraph poles, or damn close to the aggregate point it�s going to be out of the reach for any but the very wealthy.

Not proposing they already are
http://blog.thinkbroadband.com/2012/11/spotters-guid...

We need to see the band definition rather than working to ECC list