the end user is buying the fiber?

If that £2100 is for the manpower work then they have worded it badly.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Not proposing they already are
http://blog.thinkbroadband.com/2012/11/spotters-guid...

We need to see the band definition rather than working to ECC list

As I mentioned the band definition is nothing more than a pre-authorisation of a certain spend on excess construction.

It's the exact same banding as on WLR 3 - remember that these are wholesale charges not end user so there are options to roll a band into a monthly fee.

I see the survey fee for ECC is £350 - does that put the minimum connection fee at £850 ?

Not if a 'desk survey' can be carried out.

Survey Fee, applicable when an initial site survey is carried out by Openreach or a resurvey is requested. Chargeable only when the customer agrees to pay for excess construction charges as detailed below. Not applicable where desk surveys can be completed without a site visit.

sound. Google streetview to the rescue

So can I begin to order this FTTPod service yet then? If not, any ideas when I will be able to?

Its currently in early market deployment areas, so a small list of exchanges where people can order the service to test the ordering service and deployment in the market.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5811-fibre-on-dem...

Once its completed Openreach will then move fowards towards full market deployment, this could be end of the year or even early 2014, have to wait for a update from Openreach.

So will this product be available for any ISP to offer from an FTTC-enabled exchange, or will it be dependent on ISPs having a "presence" in the exchange (similar to LLU?).

My rural exchange currently has received no LLU interest, so I have to hope that (when this product is successfully through trials) I can order from a regular ISP (like BT Broadband/PlusNet/whoever) without them needing a bunch of other orders at the same exchange to justify it.

Apologies if I'm showing too much ignorance on the subject - I'm ramping up as fast as I can since discovering this light at the end of my (2 mile long) tunnel that might actually see me get of ADSL Max in the next year or two!

Cheers,

Maurice

The Isp's will have to decide if they will offer this service and most use the BT wholesale network for their backhaul, so BT Plus Net etc would be fine to order from.

Sky and TT have their own networks and without a GEA link between their equipement and the BT wholesale they will not offer a FTTC service- FOD may be different but we dont know yet.

Just have to wait for futher updates from Openreach as to when the product will finally launch.

FoD is the same as GEA FTTP service at the exchange end and as such is sent to the wholesale operators, BT Wholesale, Sky and TalkTalk over the GEA cable link that they purchase at the handover exchange.

Given Sky and TalkTalk have not started to offer FTTP in areas where it is the only option, I cannot see them bothering with FoD, it is something that will not appeal to their high volume sales market.