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Standard User mr_mojo
(knowledge is power) Wed 13-Mar-13 12:25:36
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Hi,

Finally got FTTC installed. Spoke to a really good engineer and I had to pop out, but he said the max attainable was 150meg/40meg on his tester which is the highest he's ever seen. The cabinet is about 50 metres away -- does that seem right to you?

Any news on faster than 80meg fttc products smile?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 13-Mar-13 12:47:31
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Yes sounds right.

No sign of Openreach going faster. I think they are hoping to tempt you to Fibre on Demand for faster than 80 Meg

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 13-Mar-13 12:54:32
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I'll find the actual figures attainable on a Profile 17a

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Standard User lockyatlrg
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 13-Mar-13 12:59:13
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That attainable rate will soon be chopped down by crosstalk, I have seen LOADS of stats with 140mb+ rate only to check a few weeks later and find it's in the high 90's

BT Infinity
ROUTER:-Netgear WNDR37AV
JDSU Stats
Attainable 94040D 34659U
Sync 79999D 20000U
Attenuation: 10.1 SNR: 16.2
Line Length 300meters
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 13-Mar-13 13:33:58
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Isn't there a Profile 30a which could bring higher d/l speeds for those lucky people close to the FTTC box.. I think some trials have been done by BT, but with FTTP on demand on the horizon I question whether BT would rather customers choose this option instead.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 13-Mar-13 13:35:58
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Digital Region

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5602-speed-boosts...

Also has the profile graphs, 30a benefits upload but only for short lines mainly

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User mr_mojo
(knowledge is power) Wed 13-Mar-13 13:37:15
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Yeah, fair enough. I was the 17th person on the cabinet (must of been a lot of demand - it was only activated about 3 weeks ago and I thought I'd be one of the first!)
Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 13-Mar-13 15:33:53
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In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:
That attainable rate will soon be chopped down by crosstalk, I have seen LOADS of stats with 140mb+ rate only to check a few weeks later and find it's in the high 90's
Mine has dropped over the last year from 86Mb/s to 72Mb/s. I suppose it might recover as summer comes along.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 13-Mar-13 15:44:59
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In reply to a post by dazzlew:
Isn't there a Profile 30a which could bring higher d/l speeds for those lucky people close to the FTTC box.. I think some trials have been done by BT, but with FTTP on demand on the horizon I question whether BT would rather customers choose this option instead.
I think it highly unlikely they will roll out 30a, given that the specification for ISP-supplied modems and modem/routers (soon to be allowed) is for 17a and vectoring capability.

There'd be a lot of smell if they made them redundant in the foreseeable future.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User lockyatlrg
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 13-Mar-13 15:56:55
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I didn't think the gear in the cabs is ready for 30a and BT need ofcom approval for 30a too?

BT Infinity
ROUTER:-Netgear WNDR37AV
JDSU Stats
Attainable 94040D 34659U
Sync 79999D 20000U
Attenuation: 10.1 SNR: 16.2
Line Length 300meters
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 13-Mar-13 17:59:00
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The line densities of the Profile 30a cards is lower too. Deutsch Telekom is/was apparently abandoning Profile 30a after disappointing results.

cheers, a
Standard User mr_mojo
(knowledge is power) Wed 13-Mar-13 18:33:41
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All the cabinets would need replaced too (well, the line cards at least). Can't see that happening.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 14-Mar-13 09:04:14
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agreed, I think he will survive above 80 but it will drop to 90-110 range in my view.

The only way a viable higher speed product can be launched on 17a is with vectoring, BT need to get moving on that as crosstalk is causing havoc.

Can see in my sig how much mine dropped.

BT Infinity 2 Since Dec 2012 - Estimate 65.9/20 - Attainable peak 110/36 - Current Sync 71/20

Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 14-Mar-13 09:04:55)

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