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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sun 17-Mar-13 19:02:00
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Re: FTTPoD availability/coverage


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seems BT going bonkers in desperation to not break D side routing.

So if I as a customer ordered FTTP knowing I have a cabinet outside my window across the road, and the ducting goes right by my front, BT will likely try to provide it from my FTTC cabinet at 8x the distance (400m vs 50m) and charge me accordingly.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 17-Mar-13 20:03:56
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In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:
As far as I'm aware the fibre cabinets go back to their 'home' exchange, the same one as the PCP, then from there go on existing fibre routes to the handover exchange?


No direct evidence, but...

When my exchange was enabled (which, IIRC is a child to another local, but not neighbouring, exchange), there were 2 or 3 cabinets that got deferred for a long time.

Those cabinets were right on the boundary to a different exchange, and looked to be timed to go live alongside *that* exchange.

Co-incidence, or...?
Standard User ionic
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 17-Mar-13 21:21:35
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Thanks all. I guess I'll just have to wait and try ordering but not get my hopes up...


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 18-Mar-13 00:11:17
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
So if I as a customer ordered FTTP knowing I have a cabinet outside my window across the road, and the ducting goes right by my front, BT will likely try to provide it from my FTTC cabinet at 8x the distance (400m vs 50m) and charge me accordingly.
FTTPoD is not provided from the FTTC cabinet. It is fed from an aggregation point that feeds that cabinet. Whatever that means frown.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 18-Mar-13 08:18:08
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I know, but surely you can understand what I meant.

Its likely the aggregation point that feeds a cabinet is close to that cabinet.

so the aggregation point for the cabinet across the road from me in all probability is closer than the one that serves my FTTC cabinet.

Also if the D side takes a indirect route does fiber follow the same indirect route because my FTTC distance direct is 200m not 400m.

Basically as a customer do I pay for BTs incompetance on FTTPoD.

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Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 18-Mar-13 08:19:32)

Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 18-Mar-13 08:52:31
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You would pay for what was actually installed after a planner figured out a route and provided an estimate. If the aggregation node happens to be in the road near to you then the cabinet location doesn't matter beyond providing eligibility from what people are saying above ?

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 18-Mar-13 08:54:48
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So its across the road, do you know if there is ducting going across the road?

If the eventual aim is for everyone on FTTP (which it will be eventually) then having people on the PON kit at a different aggregation.

Of course we could all ask Virgin Media who are often literally just feet from a home and refuse to connect people at all.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 18-Mar-13 08:56:36
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In all likelihood there will be a single AN serving FTTC and HTTP in a given exchange area
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 18-Mar-13 10:35:20
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So its across the road, do you know if there is ducting going across the road?

If the eventual aim is for everyone on FTTP (which it will be eventually) then having people on the PON kit at a different aggregation.

Of course we could all ask Virgin Media who are often literally just feet from a home and refuse to connect people at all.


there is as not only did I watch them feed the fiber (which I posted about on here) I also chatted to the guys who were installing the fiber.

This isnt about VM its about BT, and thats a sloppy reply andrew.

End of the day BT can choose to do a longer fiber route if I order FTTP but I wont be paying them for it, I will pay them for the distance from the nearest aggregation point.

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Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 18-Mar-13 10:36:57)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 18-Mar-13 10:38:08
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
Well I am 100% sure that the fibre feeding DSLAM cabs in Eversley goes straight back to Crowthorne.


I thank you, Sir, for the correction.
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