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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 31-Mar-13 12:10:26
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Re: Will the engineer let me have fibre though I moved socke


[re: Computerman142] [link to this post]
 
Have you ordered the FTTC yet?

If not, you need to make sure the "Home Wiring Solution" (ex Data Extension Cable) is ordered for you.

It's free, but the ISP has to order it. BT Infinity order it automatically, so no worry there. Plusnet I think have the option during the online sign-up. I don't know about any others.

If you've already ordered, you may need to get onto the ISP.

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Standard User R0NSKI
(experienced) Sun 31-Mar-13 14:33:34
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Re: Will the engineer let me have fibre though I moved socke


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Why not re-instate the original master socket, then use your wiring as an extension socket, and hopefully nobody will be any the wiser.

Then when the install comes get them to use a data extension kit to put the modem where you need it, or if it's complicated run in some solid core CAT5e cable for them to use.

Standard User Computerman142
(newbie) Sun 31-Mar-13 15:39:31
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Re: Will the engineer let me have fibre though I moved socke


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Yes I have already ordered FTTC is it coming 2nd April, I am with TalkTalk so I don't what they will do about the home wiring kit. But if they notice the cables that I fitted are wrong which is most likely they will, I will have to let them rip it all out and re-wire it. Or they may not fit fibre but we will see on the day, I guess.


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Standard User Computerman142
(newbie) Sun 31-Mar-13 15:42:28
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I don't have the old master socket any more and where the master socket is now was once an extension from the main master socket. But I will see what happens on the day And what the BT engineer says.
Standard User underzone
(member) Sun 31-Mar-13 19:41:43
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Dont worry about it. BT dont have records of where your NTE is. Just make a decent job and deny any knowledge if they ask. If you think about it, you could really balls up the wiring before the NTE and they would have to fix/repair it (as it is BT's responsibility up to the NTE) just so long as you say "it has always been like that"!

I think you are worrying too much,

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Standard User Computerman142
(newbie) Sun 31-Mar-13 20:34:32
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I will try not to worry about it buts its only on Tuesday when he comes to fit the fibre, lets hope he is fine with it all and fits a new faceplate without ripping the wires out and charging me. smile
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 31-Mar-13 20:43:21
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Tea/Coffee and biscuits could be a good idea.

If he's Openreach, (Openreach also sub-contract to Quinn and Kelly), he may take pity when he sees the state of things. Which was like that when you moved in. It could depend on how much time he has spare, as I'm guessing the ordering of the Home Wiring Solution is just to allow extra time.

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Standard User worldofadsl
(knowledge is power) Mon 01-Apr-13 00:51:47
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Re: Will the engineer let me have fibre though I moved socke


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They will only refit it if the data extension kit is on the order (well that is my understanding).

Personally I would rip it out before the engineer arrives and put the master socket back in the original location.

You do not want the engineer to use the cable because it will effect your service. VDSL is much more susceptible to errors caused by this kind of cable than ADSL as far as I am aware from what I have read.

It seems crazy that people mess round with things like this. Would you go and open your green cab and have a tinker in their as well?
Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 01-Apr-13 06:19:23
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I think they will just use the cabling you put in.

If he does notice the bad cabling and question it deny knowing anything about it....

To be honest when my engineer came he just installed the new faceplate. He didn't even look at the cabling behind the test socket so he wouldn't have even known if I had ali cabling used there.

I think the engineer will come. Install the fibre faceplate. Leave. He wont care about the cabling or the affect it'll have on your broadband. All he cares is does it work. YES, job done move on.

I don't have high hopes of openreach through experience. I feel they do whatevers quickiest and easiest. Some are good but overall it's faster the better.

What's definite is that the ali cabling will prob cause much worse speeds on fibre and will probably cause issues.
Standard User Computerman142
(newbie) Mon 01-Apr-13 08:40:25
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Ok, I will see what the engineer does tomorrow, If He doesn't notice the cabling but I get slow speeds I will have to replace the cabling with proper telephone wire, but if works fine I will leave it for now. But if he wants to replace it due to it may affect the fibre broadband, which by your post suggests that he wont be bothered to look, He can replace the wiring.
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