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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 03-Apr-13 07:42:49
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Cuckoo Oak Urgent Users


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If you are one of those missing out on FTTC, please I urgent u to register to get BT to bring FTTC cabinets in our area.

190 Houses listed below will get (Huawei FTTC Cab - 288 Houses Max - Cab 6 - Cuckoo Oak) (80Mbps Downstream/20Mbps Upstream)

TF7 5LS 42 Houses - FTTC

TF7 5LY 29 Houses - FTTC

TF7 5NA 31 Houses - FTTC

TF7 5ND 32 Houses - FTTC

TF7 5NF 21 Houses - FTTC

TF7 5NJ 35 Houses - FTTC

FTTC are not available for the rest of the whole TF7 Residential Houses say BT Openreach but
we need to campaign to get BT Openreach to put FTTC cabinets by click here below:

http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/expression-gen....

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Wed 03-Apr-13 08:23:21
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Max, Shropshire have completed their BDUK Open Market Review and procurement.

If you aren't on the plans you aren't getting it now until BDUK time. It's too late for Openreach to change their minds about additional cabinets.

As an aside that postcode checker isn't accurate and premises counts, depending on how you do them, should be used with caution too - does it seem likely for a moment to you BT using the largest and most expensive 288 line cabinet for an area with 190 premises?

When I did this process for an area I actually had the wiring plans for the area from the developers so I could trace wiring from cabinet.

Sorry to be a bearer of bad news.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 03-Apr-13 08:35:16
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http://www.telford.gov.uk/press/article/1123/council...

http://lightmoorlife.co.uk/blog/2013/02/28/telford-w...

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Wed 03-Apr-13 08:40:16
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Oh, never mind. There are local government elections coming up. You can get shot of a council that turns down a product supported both by central government and private money.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 03-Apr-13 10:06:36
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Hard to get rid of a council with the way they are voted for, as usually not all seats are up for vote each election.

The balance of power can be shifted, and there is a sense that residents and businesses would do well to show if they think the cost of the BDUK project is worth council money

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 03-Apr-13 15:46:44
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in 2 minds.

I think broadband investment is important, however the council is right also when they looking at the amount it benefits, and it wouldnt sit right with me if eg. they cut budgets for vulnerable people to pay for the rollout. To me the best solution is if they cant get it from non critical sevrices then fund it via tax increases.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 03-Apr-13 16:13:45
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I got email reply from openreach with good news:

[email protected]

09:41 (6 hours ago)

to me

Dear Mr ***********,



Thank you for your enquiry. You are connected to the Cuckoo Oak Exchange, cabinet 8.



I have been in contact with the Project Manager and he advises that work will start on the deployment of cabinet 7,8,9,10 & 11 in a later phase, towards the end of 2013. If all goes to plan, we are hopeful the cabinet will be ready for service November 2013, barring any complications.



I suggest you continue to monitor our Web-Site which will keep you up to date with our latest deployment news for your exchange, the site also contains FAQs.



The Web-Site can be viewed using the following link:



http://www.openreach-communications.co.uk/superfast/...



I am sorry I cannot provide a definite date at this time.



Regards,

Julie





Julie Cummings BWA613



Network Investment Customer Engagement
Web: www.openreach.co.uk

Web: www.openreach.co.uk

Openreach is delivering fibre broadband services to communities across the UK as well as installing and maintaining the communications infrastructure that links homes, businesses, public and voluntary sector organisations to their Communications Providers' networks.

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Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Wed 03-Apr-13 16:45:01
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Tax increases for councils at the moment are not easy. Any large council wanting to put up by more than 1% has to hold a referendum. Most won't bother.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 03-Apr-13 19:38:07
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yeah silly policy although my council is raising 2% this year and was no referundum.

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Standard User simon194
(committed) Thu 04-Apr-13 00:12:23
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In reply to a post by ian72:
Tax increases for councils at the moment are not easy. Any large council wanting to put up by more than 1% has to hold a referendum. Most won't bother.


It's 1.99% they can put council tax up without a referendum.
Standard User TrishaH
(committed) Thu 04-Apr-13 01:33:15
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Yes, and 1.9% is exactly what ours did!

Better than the over 3% they got away with last year though I suppose.

Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Wed 10-Apr-13 08:17:03
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It's 1.99% they can put council tax up without a referendum.


What's 0.99% between friends wink I was close - sort of... Anyway, not enough to fund big projects when inflation alone is higher than that.
Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 10-Apr-13 08:59:36
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Adslmax, where did you manage to get that info from?

I'm on Hollinswood and wouldn't mind finding out if my cab, cab 12 is going to be done or not.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 10-Apr-13 13:02:00
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Adslmax, where did you manage to get that info from?

I'm on Hollinswood and wouldn't mind finding out if my cab, cab 12 is going to be done or not.


I will forward email to one of the project manager of the Telford & Wrekin Council and also emaill to Julie Cummings from openreach. But, before that, they need your post code (just the post code) please.

Wil let u know once they had reply to me.

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Standard User stevebrowne
(committed) Fri 26-Apr-13 20:06:50
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Typical.

I want 2 or 3 fibre lines (business and domestic), and yet they concentrate on providing the service to areas who can already choose Virgin ((and probably have) .
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 01-May-13 03:20:31
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The post code below is now FTTC available:

TF7 5LS 42 Houses - FTTC - Now

TF7 5LY 29 Houses - FTTC - Now

TF7 5NA 31 Houses - FTTC - Now

TF7 5ND 32 Houses - FTTC - Now

TF7 5NF 21 Houses - FTTC - Now

TF7 5NJ 35 Houses - FTTC - Now

TF7 5PB 47 Houses - FTTC - March 2014

TF7 5PF 37 Houses - FTTC - March 2014

TF7 5NZ 42 Houses - FTTC - March 2014

TF7 5PJ 39 Houses - FTTC - March 2014

TF7 5PR 28 Houses - FTTC - March 2014

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Edited by adslmax (Wed 01-May-13 03:23:12)

Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 17:16:32
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In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:
Max, Shropshire have completed their BDUK Open Market Review and procurement.

If you aren't on the plans you aren't getting it now until BDUK time. It's too late for Openreach to change their minds about additional cabinets.

As an aside that postcode checker isn't accurate and premises counts, depending on how you do them, should be used with caution too - does it seem likely for a moment to you BT using the largest and most expensive 288 line cabinet for an area with 190 premises?

When I did this process for an area I actually had the wiring plans for the area from the developers so I could trace wiring from cabinet.

Sorry to be a bearer of bad news.


You are thought wrong. BT FTTC cabinet had been installed today. Sound like BT had change their heart for the best interest of our peoples in our area after Telford & Wrekin Council rejected part of BDUK, and Shropshire BDUK are excluding Telford & Wrekin. So, I count myself very lucky after complaints email to CEO Openreach, Project manager of BT Openreach in the West Midlands and my successfully challenge BT had been well paid off

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 17:34:59
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You are thought wrong. BT FTTC cabinet had been installed today. Sound like BT had change their heart for the best interest of our peoples in our area after Telford & Wrekin Council rejected part of BDUK, and Shropshire BDUK are excluding Telford & Wrekin. So, I count myself very lucky after complaints email to CEO Openreach, Project manager of BT Openreach in the West Midlands and my successfully challenge BT had been well paid off


Far more likely, given the rest of your area and the relative timescales, is that this was scheduled as part of a later in-fill phase, and that you have the premises passed by this cabinet wrong.

Openreach can't change their plans due to someone constantly emailing the CEO - they are required to ensure that each cabinet passes their commercial criteria. If they cross-subsidise cabinets they risk the wrath of Ofcom.

BT couldn't care less about the best interest of your peoples, they care about money. Once I showed them that there was money to be made enabling my local cabinet they were happy to do so.

I have no idea why you saw fit to resurrect this thread after all this time, however after all the time I had to devote to the campaign in this area I find your arrogant assertion that a few emails obsessively chasing the CEO constituted a 'successfully challenge' to BT insulting.

You really have no idea what it takes to actually challenge Openreach on these matters. It took dozens of hours of demand generation, going through wiring plans, liaising with MPs and council before BT admitted they had it wrong.

Your comments demean me and everyone who helped me, alongside each and every other campaign.that has sought the enabling of a cabinet either via 100% funding from Openreach or community part-funding.

In short, shut up. I have an official disability too, the difference between us being I moderate and control mine for the most part, and don't see fit to post like a cretin for public consumption as a general rule, though I do fail occasionally.

EDIT: Just as an aside it's about 11 months from being added to the roll out to being built out. While it may not have been on the availability checker yet your cabinet was on the list before you produced this thread, especially given it had additional delays on it, and most definitely welly before you started harassing Liv Garfield.

BT didn't see a single email from you to the CEO and suddenly do the planning for your cabinet, forsaking everything else, in record time. Do you really think you're the first person to write to them about a cabinet?

Your arrogance and idiocy are astounding. I have no idea what your disability is but am grateful mine is merely high-functioning autism.

Edited by Ignitionnet (Fri 20-Dec-13 18:03:37)

Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 18:01:30
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I be very surprise if it was only me to order FTTC 1 out of 288 max at the cabinet. If that happen and still only me till a year time, does Openreach willing to removed FTTC if not enough money fund by the peoples?

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Standard User Spud2003
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 20-Dec-13 18:06:51
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The forum rules bar inappropriate or offensive language(in this case name calling in the last two sentences)... tongue
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 18:08:14
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In reply to a post by Spud2003:
The forum rules bar inappropriate or offensive language(in this case name calling in the last two sentences)... tongue


Feel free to report me, Spud smile
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 18:10:03
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
I be very surprise if it was only me to order FTTC 1 out of 288 max at the cabinet. If that happen and still only me till a year time, does Openreach willing to removed FTTC if not enough money fund by the peoples?


No. That would cost more money than just leaving it there. They reduce their costs on low take up by only putting line cards in one at a time.

Each card holds 48 connections. In the case of the cabinet I successfully campaigned for it now has 4 cards in it, having filled 2 and being a good way through the 3rd after less than 3 weeks.

Not bad for a non-viable cabinet serving too few premises...
Standard User Spud2003
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 20-Dec-13 18:14:56
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I'm not going to report you but your point was undermined by losing your temper and using insults.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 18:17:01
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No. That would cost more money than just leaving it there. They reduce their costs on low take up by only putting line cards in one at a time.

Each card holds 48 connections. In the case of the cabinet I successfully campaigned for it now has 4 cards in it, having filled 2 and being a good way through the 3rd after less than 3 weeks.

Not bad for a non-viable cabinet serving too few premises...


how can you tell how many cards had been installed in the cabinet? I thought 288 cards already on the cabinet as BT just flick the switch on to customer's end?

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Standard User Ribble
(experienced) Fri 20-Dec-13 18:48:17
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how can you tell how many cards had been installed in the cabinet?

You can't unless you have inside information
I thought 288 cards already on the cabinet as BT just flick the switch on to customer's end?

That would result in thousands of unused cards sitting idle for years costing millions. Typically install 1 or 2 cards when the cabinet is 1st installed. A large Hauwei can take 6 cards.

Edited by Ribble (Fri 20-Dec-13 18:50:10)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 20-Dec-13 18:56:22
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I don't know what the current standard is, and the line cards I believe have changed, but at the time ours was installed I believe it was normal to provide 100 ports initially in the 288-capable FTTC cabinet.

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Standard User simon194
(committed) Fri 20-Dec-13 19:33:13
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IIRC the big Huawei cabinets hold up to 3 DSLAMs' each with up to 96 ports and they are usually provisioned with 96 ports to start with.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 20:35:38
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how can you tell how many cards had been installed in the cabinet? I thought 288 cards already on the cabinet as BT just flick the switch on to customer's end?


Those of us who did actually campaign for our cabinets to be enabled and hence obtained contacts within Openreach during those campaigns are kept informed of these things when they become an 'issue'.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 20:36:28
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IIRC the big Huawei cabinets hold up to 3 DSLAMs' each with up to 96 ports and they are usually provisioned with 96 ports to start with.


It's 1 DSLAM with 6 ports available for line cards; they are provisioned with tie pairs for 100 connections and a single line card to start. Sometimes a second line card is in their ready if take up is expected to justify it.

Edited by Ignitionnet (Fri 20-Dec-13 20:38:28)

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 20:37:31
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I don't know what the current standard is, and the line cards I believe have changed, but at the time ours was installed I believe it was normal to provide 100 ports initially in the 288-capable FTTC cabinet.


100 tie pairs and a single 48 port card, Bob. When that card hits 75%, if I remember rightly, it triggers provisioning of another card. When that hits 75% it triggers provisioning of another 100 tie pairs and a 3rd card.

I imagine there are cases where a second line card is installed ready to go, depending on expected demand.

Edited by Ignitionnet (Fri 20-Dec-13 20:39:13)

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 20:40:05
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Thanks Ribble.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 20:41:14
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I'm not going to report you but your point was undermined by losing your temper and using insults.


Per my point I have my flaws, and stuff like that exposes them.

Now we've discussed them it's a bit late to be editing posts to hide them so I is what I is and there it is for people's viewing.

I do appreciate what you've said and am not disagreeing in any way, shape or form.

That said I would point out it's the Friday before Christmas and I may have imbibed some Christmas cheer wink

Edited by Ignitionnet (Fri 20-Dec-13 20:42:05)

Standard User Ribble
(experienced) Fri 20-Dec-13 20:47:39
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Thanks Ribble.

Have a merry Xmas smile
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Dec-13 22:06:14
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Have a merry Xmas smile


Yeah you too, thanks for all the help this past year, most appreciated. All the best to you and yours smile
Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 21-Dec-13 00:56:50
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100 tie pairs and a single 48 port card, Bob.

A trivial point, perhaps, but...

Doesn't a 100-pair tie cable get used up (almost) for each 48 port card? One pair to connect to the E-side in the PCP, plus one pair to connect to the D-side, for each port.

Unless, of course, the card uses 2 ports for each subscriber.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Dec-13 02:14:00
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Bad terminology on my part. They are installed as 100 pairs of cables, 100 out, 100 back. Each individual cable is a twisted pair in its own right of course.
Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 22-Dec-13 14:58:46
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Ah. You learn something every day! I always assumed it was just 100 pairs, not 100 pairs of pairs.
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