FTTPoD install charges

Possibly good(ish) news here:

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/super-...

Section 3.8 states that the install charge bands are based on radial distance rather than the actual cable length so should generally be cheaper* than previously assumed.

*Cheaper being a relative term, obviously  

Edited by ferretuk (Mon 15-Apr-13 12:35:53)

Question will be if once BT do the survey will they invoke their ability to re-quote once they find out the route is actually 2km rather than 200m due to river etc.

I have some friends - as the crow flies about 0.5km to the exchange and around 1.2 km by road. Their routing however is in the region of 10-12 km of which the last 4km is overhead. A great example of where it will not be applied!

But FTTPoD is all about distance to CAB (or aggregation node) which except for extremly rare circumstances will be less than distance to exchange.

Also interesting to see that BT can reject the order if there are insufficient "resources" to plan or build the connection.

That doesn't say "operate" the service, suggesting that the resource problem they anticipate is the people to perform the survey and planning, or the people to perform the install.

Yes - they even specify that the distance is from the relevant aggregation node, not the nearest.

In this case I would guess there will be an aggregation node close to the exchange (or inside) and another about 4-5 km from the houses. But as the poled route is the long way there will be no chance of a 500m fibre but a 5km one.

Is there any particular reason that the copper goes that way? Is it an anomoly, perhaps because of running out of pairs on other nearby routes?

You'd think that BT would consider fixing some of those anomolies when they come to install FTTP (of either variety).

It is almost the only route - there is a slightly shorter by maybe 1km but that follows the same route for around half distance.

The line leaves the exchange in a large 200 pair (or multiple) and follows the road to a point where the routes split to serve two villages. In each of the villages there are several cables that almost immediately go overhead to connect several small hamlets or clusters of houses. From village A there is an overhead that feeds several properties en-route and finally a neighbour - 600m away but that has no capacity and no poles. They and the 3 adjoining houses are fed from village B - all overhead.

In reply to a post by MHC:

I have some friends - as the crow flies about 0.5km to the exchange and around 1.2 km by road. Their routing however is in the region of 10-12 km of which the last 4km is overhead. A great example of where it will not be applied!

As FTTPoD will only be available in areas that have FTTC infrastructure they're unlikely to be able to order to find out!

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Question will be if once BT do the survey will they invoke their ability to re-quote once they find out the route is actually 2km rather than 200m due to river etc.

Will be very interesting. I am 150m from my cabinet. My cable route is 600m. Potentially a big difference for costs - if I get charged the 150m cost then I would be sorely tempted to upgrade but the 600m cost could be a bit too high to justify at the moment.

It does ... and their cabinet has FTTC.