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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 23-Apr-13 07:23:26
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HG612 LAN1 and LAN2


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If I work up the courage and unlock my HG612 will both LAN1 and LAN2 provide internet access, that's to say could I connect two different devices, one into each LAN simultaneously?

Currently I have one ethernet cable running from LAN to a router. After unlocking could I also connect another ethernet cable to the other LAN (and connect that to a networking homeplug with another router at the other end)

If this isn't possible I understand the HG612 can also work as a router, in which case my question is similar, could I use both LANs simultaneously but connect two Access Points to each output?

My preference is for option one because I like to use my router's admin to see DHCP Client List etc.

BTW I'm with TalkTalk so there is no router level authentication needed (maybe that's true for all fibre connections)

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 23-Apr-13 08:18:37
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Whilst in bridge mode no, would need to put it in router mode.

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(deleted) Tue 23-Apr-13 08:35:11
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
Whilst in bridge mode no, would need to put it in router mode.


Thanks, your reply is very brief. Are you saying only if the HG612 is set as a router, then both LAN1 and LAN2 will operate simultaneously as internet out feeds?


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Standard User smouty
(regular) Tue 23-Apr-13 09:14:00
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In reply to a post by Alexir:
Thanks, your reply is very brief. Are you saying only if the HG612 is set as a router, then both LAN1 and LAN2 will operate simultaneously as internet out feeds?


He is.
Standard User R0NSKI
(experienced) Tue 23-Apr-13 10:14:43
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I'm presuming you've run out of ports on you're router, so why not buy a switch? Even gigabit switches are pretty cheap, and you will get the benefit of a faster network presuming you're other hardware has gigabit networking cards.

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(knowledge is power) Tue 23-Apr-13 10:16:28
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I'm presuming you've run out of ports on you're router, so why not buy a switch? Even gigabit switches are pretty cheap, and you will get the benefit of a faster network presuming you're other hardware has gigabit networking cards.
I signed up for the Samknows programme. Got me a gigabit capable switch for free laugh

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 23-Apr-13 20:53:52
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In reply to a post by R0NSKI:
I'm presuming you've run out of ports on you're router, so why not buy a switch?


No, it's a question of device positioning. The phone socket and modem are together next to the power sockets. The router is a couple meters away (by the TV, Sky box etc so they can be wired). That's all fine but I needed to extend coverage upstairs via homeplugs. The only viable homeplug power socket is back where the modem is, so currently I run one ethernet several feet from modem to router, then run another cable back to the homeplug which is next to the modem. If you've followed that explanation so far you'll guess I would rather have a short cable from the second modem LAN direct to the homeplug.
Standard User smouty
(regular) Wed 24-Apr-13 07:56:23
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But you must have a power socket by the router wink
There are homeplugs available with power passthrough if it helps.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 24-Apr-13 09:04:50
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But you must have a power socket by the router wink


There is indeed a power socket by the router, it is an extension/expansion block and when I insert the homeplug there the speed at the destination homeplug collapses. The only way to get good thruput on the homeplug is to use the main powerpoint on the wall...which is where the modem is.

My current set up is workable, there's no real problem, it just has one extra unnecessary ethernet cable snaking back from router to homeplug - so if I can use the second LAN on the modem and a short cable to the homeplug, everything is just a little bit tidier
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 24-Apr-13 11:27:18
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With the HG612 set to router mode, you could try LAN1 to an ethernet port on your router, (doesn't need to be an FTTC/cable one any more), and LAN 2 to the Homeplug.

Your router then needs DHCP disabling and assigned a safe IP address on the LAN outside the range you set the HG612 to allocate. Just like coupling two routers on ADSLx.

You should be able to see the DHCP assignments on the HG612 with no trouble.

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(deleted) Wed 24-Apr-13 11:48:29
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Thanks for all replies. Anyone who has used the HG612 as a router have any other comments on it's performance in such a mode? I have a big household with probably up to 20 different devices connected. The Belkin router I use currently can handle them all constantly connecting and disconnecting throughout the day no problem but my previous Huawei experience was not good. TalkTalk supply the HG532 as it's fibre router and it would need rebooting often - more so as the number of connected devices increased (and It wouldn't let me see which devices were connected at any one time, only a list of mac addresses that had connected at some point during that session)
Standard User ferretuk
(regular) Wed 24-Apr-13 12:00:01
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I'd move the router to next to the modem and put a switch next to the TV personally...
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 24-Apr-13 14:29:29
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Sounds the most sensible yet smile.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 24-Apr-13 14:32:07
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On reflection I'd tend towards ferretuk's suggestion.

The first person here to get the HG612 working as a router was BatBoy. If you decide to try that way, maybe he could help you - I don't know what he loads onto it.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 24-Apr-13 17:02:36
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In reply to a post by ferretuk:
I'd move the router to next to the modem and put a switch next to the TV personally...


I only have a standard twin socket power point on the wall and that currently services eight powered devices full time (plus the occasional extra items and the homeplug) via extension/expansion blocks. I'm really looking to reduce devices not add another! Ta for all the suggestions though.
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