Fibre on demand 220 / 20 pricing

Seems Openreach have announced wholesale pricing for the 220 / 20 FTTP product. Annual cost £288 vs £220.08 for the 80 / 20 product.

Therefore the wholesale cost is only £5.66 per month greater than the 80 / 20. Maybe the cost to end users wont be too crazy after all.. Unless isp's factor some other costs in?

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/pricin...

To me the monthly costs are already reasonable its the install costs and contract length that are a bit out of this world.

I think a likely scenario will be the ISP spreading the initial install cost through the monthly fee. That way, at least to some, it might be more attractive than having to pay a lump sum up front though I can't imagine that the smaller providers would be willing to do this. At the moment though we don't have the full picture, so we'll just have to wait and see. I'm still trying to find where my aggregation node is in the myriad of BT manhole covers (They'd be under these right?) scattered around.

Sounds good apart from that there is no 220/20 FTTPoD product.

The only product available as part of an FTTPoD install is 330/30.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

Sounds good apart from that there is no 220/20 FTTPoD product.

21st item in the list:

Up to 220Mbit/s / 20Mbit/s "Transition product" (including Simultaneous Provide)

That's not the FTTPoD price list, Bill, that's the FTTP price list.

Edited by deleted (Thu 25-Apr-13 22:15:17)

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

That's not the FTTPoD price list, Bill, that's the FTTP price list.

Openreach are not deploying any further FTTP.

Correct - if you want FTTP and you're not in an area that has it already you'll have to pay for FTTPoD.

Right now the only FTTPoD tier is 330/30. There is no 220/20 FTTPoD product as of the time I'm typing this.

At least that's what the price lists say - surely if all tiers were available they'd have to be on the FTTPoD price list, yes?

Edited by deleted (Thu 25-Apr-13 22:30:54)

Not what they are saying, ok so commercial rollout is not as big as expected hence I have been saying 5 to 10% for some time.

Will chase for some actual clarity

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Will chase for some actual clarity

Thanks Andrew, some clarity (as far as that's compatible with BT machinations) would be welcome.

Agreed and have talked to BT about fod before to confirm this

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

At least that's what the price lists say - surely if all tiers were available they'd have to be on the FTTPoD price list, yes?

I think it means that the FoD product, even with heavy installation costs, still requires the mighty monthly prices to be justifiable (worth bothering to sell at all, that is).

That mighty monthly commitment comes from the biggest package possible, with a 36 month commitment.

Essentially that tells us that they couldn't justify selling it with either a 220 package or a 24 month commitment.

I'm not surprised. "FTTP is too costly" is a thing we hear from a lot of countries, and stories of 7 hour, 2 day, multiple engineer installs fits. The change in strategy fits too.

It means that copper is here for another decade, and at that time we'll start this conversation again with FTTdp and G.fast, instead of FTTC VDSL2 and vectoring.

To take another viewpoint B4rn is costing out at 1000 per home even with all the volunteer work involved