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Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 03-Jun-13 20:15:37
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Cisco 857W with FTTC


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Does anybody know if a Cisco router will work with FTTC or even just create a PPPoE session and connect through BT supplied modem?

If so how's it configured?

Our computer tech we use at work just said chuck it away and use the ISP supplied router.

Any thoughts please?

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Jun-13 20:33:18
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Re: Cisco 857W with FTTC


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It will work as a router with a PPPoE session not sure about standalone.
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 03-Jun-13 23:20:45
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Re: Cisco 857W with FTTC


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Any thoughts please?

What age is it, would it have the throughput needed for 40meg or faster FTTC ?

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Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-Jun-13 07:52:58
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Re: Cisco 857W with FTTC


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Thanks, can you point me in the direction of a guide to set up, or at least enable the web interface.

Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-Jun-13 07:55:27
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Re: Cisco 857W with FTTC


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What age is it, would it have the throughput needed for 40meg or faster FTTC ?


I'll try and find out the age when I'm next round the office.

We are about 500 meters from the cab and our estimate is only 39Mbps - telephone cables are not great around here.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 04-Jun-13 08:38:37
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Re: Cisco 857W with FTTC


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I have setup and configured Cisco 881 and 881w to work with FTTC. Both work well.
Standard User tbailey2
(member) Tue 04-Jun-13 08:52:32
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Re: Cisco 857W with FTTC


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Would this be what you want?

Cisco Setup Guide

Looks like you need the section headed "I Did Not Receive the SDM CD"...

Tony
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Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-Jun-13 09:16:34
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Re: Cisco 857W with FTTC


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Would it be better to carry on using the Cisco configured for PPPoE, or dump that and use the BT supplied Business Hub, or Plus Net supplied router?

Our tech guy want's to dump the Cisco and use whatever the ISP supplies, which doesn't seem right to me.

I think PN supply the Thomson 582, which I don't think is that wonderful from what I've read.

Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-Jun-13 10:25:04
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hmmm, this is getting more confusing, just phoned the company that supplied the Cisco and they say it's not compatible, not even by PPPoE.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 04-Jun-13 11:29:48
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Re: Cisco 857W with FTTC


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That maybe simply be because they want to sell the newer 867VAE model

The router is a 802.11g wireless unit, so high probability that at the routing level it cannot cope with the sorts of speeds FTTC offers

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 04-Jun-13 11:39:37
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Re: Cisco 857W with FTTC


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Our computer tech we use at work just said chuck it away and use the ISP supplied router.

Any thoughts please?


Yes, do as the tech suggested.

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Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-Jun-13 11:40:55
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That thought had crossed my mind too.

Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-Jun-13 12:01:58
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Why?

Can you explain what those figures mean please?

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(deleted) Tue 04-Jun-13 13:58:19
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10,000 Packets Per Second
5.14 MB/s

It won't be able to deal with the throughput... just bin it.
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-Jun-13 14:22:52
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OK, so whats a reasonable replacement or just go with the ISP supplied router, either BT Business Hub, or more likely whatever Plus Net Business are supplying, which I think is the Thomson 582N

There are about 5 users here, on site email server, occasional remote desktop via Windows Server 2008 and general browsing use.

Standard User caffn8me
(knowledge is power) Tue 04-Jun-13 16:24:01
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You could take a leap of faith and go for a Draytek 2850n or the soon-to-be-released 2860n which will alllow you (against Openreach terms & conditions) to ditch the two box configuration currently used for FTTC installs. You could also use a Cisco 887VA-W which is a one box solution.

I currently use both these configurations and have good performance without using the supplied Openreach modem. I do, of course, keep the Openreach modems just in case there's a line fault which needs to be investigated.

The Cisco and 2850n don't have gigabit ethernet on the WAN so if you ever upgrade to FTTP they would limit performance. The Draytek 2860n has gigabit ethernet on its FTTP/WAN interface and a throughput of 330Mbit/s.

Sarah

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Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 06-Jun-13 11:21:17
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Re: So which router then?


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Thanks Sarah, I'll add that to my list. Can't see that we'll need anything faster than FTTC for the foreseeable future.

Any thoughts on the Netgear Prosafe stuff, namely the FVS318N

Or would the Draytek 2850n be a better more reliable option?

Edited by R0NSKI (Thu 06-Jun-13 11:25:33)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 06-Jun-13 11:34:28
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Re: So which router then?


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http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/security/security-rev...

Hardly the best device for LAN WAN throughput

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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