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Standard User madnutter56
(learned) Thu 08-Aug-13 11:28:35
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Second FTTC Cabinets


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So it looks like 2 of the 3 (including the one I'm connected to) local NGA Cabinets are full and Openreach are adding a second cab to each to increase capacity.

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I was wondering if anyone can shed any light on what these duct markings might mean?

EDIT: I should also note the behaviour of the BT checker in this scenario.

For Cab 1, checking any number shows available (must be very nearly full in that case)

For Cab 7, checking a non-FTTC number shows no FTTC of any kind, nor Fibre Multicast.

For Cab 7, checking a known FTTC-enabled number shows FTTC as available as normal.

Alex smile

Edited by madnutter56 (Thu 08-Aug-13 11:38:13)

Standard User garethr
(regular) Thu 08-Aug-13 11:59:52
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Is one of those a half height cab?

The postcode / address check appears to be a bit hit-or-miss in some areas.

Not yet seen any second cab here but we have full height ECI and Huawei cabs.

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Standard User madnutter56
(learned) Thu 08-Aug-13 12:08:14
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Both of the current NGA Cabs are Huawei 128 line, and I would take a guess that the new ones will also be Huawei 128?

I used the telephone number checker, not the address/postcode checker to rule out any postcode related strangeness. From that my only conclusion is that the checker knows which lines are FTTC-enabled and shows them as such on the checker?

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Standard User panda
(committed) Thu 08-Aug-13 12:43:14
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In reply to a post by madnutter56:
I was wondering if anyone can shed any light on what these duct markings might mean?
D54 is 'Duct 54' - which is a 96mm diameter tube.
'450 cover' is the depth required and the arrow marks the position where it is to be installed to enter the joint box.

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Standard User Ribble
(experienced) Thu 08-Aug-13 13:53:38
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You stated cab 7 twice. I presume you meant 1,7 and 12
Standard User madnutter56
(learned) Thu 08-Aug-13 15:26:06
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No I meant 7 both times, I was checking a number that has FTTC versus a number that doesn't have FTTC and noting that the checker can tell the difference smile
Standard User madnutter56
(learned) Thu 08-Aug-13 15:28:30
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Thanks! smile
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 08-Aug-13 16:14:06
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Half-height cabs? Since when, and where?

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Standard User MaryHinge
(member) Mon 19-Aug-13 20:10:50
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How will vectoring work where there are two FTTC cabs serving a single PCP?
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 19-Aug-13 23:19:57
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How will vectoring work where there are two FTTC cabs serving a single PCP?


multi-vendor and multi-DSLAM vectoring is in the standards development mix I believe.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 19-Aug-13 23:24:56
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A bit of fibre between the two will carry the comms data to allow the vectoring maths to happen

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Standard User madnutter56
(learned) Tue 20-Aug-13 10:57:46
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I've just updated my flickr album with some photos of one of the new cabinets part way through installation.

I was also wondering about the vectoring, but from the looks of it BT will have to come back and install the fibre-tie as it doesn't look like its been installed currently.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 20-Aug-13 12:59:03
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9462614103...

make sure this house won't be sued you for privacy against their property and car's privacy. If it was your house, fair enough.

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Edited by adslmax (Tue 20-Aug-13 12:59:53)

Standard User madnutter56
(learned) Tue 20-Aug-13 13:28:37
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The house is already on street view but you make a good point about the car, so I've covered the reg plate up smile
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Tue 20-Aug-13 13:30:28
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Wouldn't want the car feeling like its privacy has been violated.
Standard User kebabselector
(newbie) Tue 20-Aug-13 13:35:03
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Nothing the owner can do about the image if it was taken from a public place. Anyway - nice to see someone else taking pictures of cabs :0

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Standard User The_Voyager
(committed) Wed 21-Aug-13 09:09:54
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Even if the house wasn't on streetview, they can't sue, unless they issue a takedown notice and you refuse to take it down, even then they may have trouble actually winning the lawsuit, as the picture was taken from the public highway.

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Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 21-Aug-13 12:01:34
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9462614103...

make sure this house won't be sued you for privacy against their property and car's privacy. If it was your house, fair enough.


Oh dear, I'd better delete all my holiday photos, who knows who or what was in the background, I certainly didn't get their permission. Opp's, better delete all the pictures of my kids in their school plays whilst I'm at it as well.

I'll swear this country is going mad! Altough I do agree it would be common courtesy to blank out the number plate, but not a major problem not to.

Standard User LeJimster
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 21-Aug-13 19:36:03
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Speaking of Vectoring, has there been any news/results of the public trial BT were running? It's one technology I'm eager to see implemented.

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Standard User ccxo
(experienced) Thu 22-Aug-13 00:25:50
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Its has not started yet, due to get underway in a few weeks.

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/08/bt-make...

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Standard User lockyatlrg
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 22-Aug-13 08:58:16
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9462614103...

make sure this house won't be sued you for privacy against their property and car's privacy. If it was your house, fair enough.


What complete miss-information you have just spouted.

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