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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 12-Aug-13 07:41:25
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is there a reason they cant make a chip that can use all frequencies?
cost and size?

Because there is more than the chip, you need power amplifiers and antennas specific for each freq.

And one reason the "large phones" appeared to begin with was that the first generation of LTE chips (needed in the US for Verizon) required a LOT of amps of electricity.

I agree those handsets are not my favourite size either, I tend to find blokes holding them in their hands, and women put them in handbags. They don't fit in pockets. One reason to avoid them - but each to their own smile

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 12-Aug-13 09:26:52
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we need to separate the frequency from the protocol in our discussions, O2 do 3G on 900 MHz

http://news.o2.co.uk/2011/05/30/superfast-900mhz-3g-...

Obviously this is too complex for artists and marketing morons, but "4G" does not define a transmission frequency as the standards cover implementation at a wide range of frequency bands.

"4G" itself is just marketing speak for flavours of LTE and WiMax and no doubt something used in Korea or Japan that I've never heard of.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 12-Aug-13 10:06:48
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I think that most of the 'faults' are not actual faults as such. Most of them are just a lack of backhaul at the local telephone exchange, hence the half speeds etc that we are seeing. With regards to actual line faults - they are less likely on fibre given that a large chunk of copper is cut out. With regards to slow faults, yes people are much more likely to moan of slow speeds. A) The providers backhaul may be lacking B) Peoples laptops might be old, even on XP and not handle 80Mbps well C) so many people use wireless and wonder why they're only seeing 30Mbps.


The mate that is only getting less than half speed most of the time and is on Plusnet I have checked and double checked. I have even connected his laptop directly to the modem and while his laptop is not state of the art, it is certainly capable of coping with 70Mb/s. In fact even his old single core AMd 64 bit desktop can handle it, in fact they did for a couple of weeks. BTOR have had a look and said that the speed to the modem is ok, it is at around 75Mb/s. so it have to be his ISP.

The other lad who changed back to ADSL, just had disconnection problems more than speed problems. It was certainly a fault. Maybe Bt is trying to push the technology too much with cheap equipment and it can't cope.


I don't think there is a week go by that I see something about large Isps or fibre that make me glad that I gone the way I have with my broadband.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 12-Aug-13 10:27:48
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The half speed issue has to be a lack of backhaul at the exchange for that ISP.
Changing ISP is extremely likely to solve that issue.

I've got fibre from BT (that work provide but it's just normal infinity with the homehub)
& sky fibre at 80Mbps.
I can honestly say I could not be happier. My BT one sometimes slows down a little to around 55Mbps but that's rare and lasts an evening at most (so likely it's just a few people heavy on the torrents in the area or something). The Sky one has dropped out once or twice last year for a bit of time, this was when sky had just launched fibre & a fair few people posted at the same time on sky user about it.
Other than that I've been happy enough.

My fibre does drop out lots if my rj11 cable is behind my tele and modem on my tv stand. No idea why but I assume its the plasma tv. I moved my master away a long time ago though smile

The way I look at it, even half speeds it's still 40Mbps and I've not heard of anyone's lines severely under performing enough to go below half. That's still better than adsl although annoying still.

With the half speed issue have they unlocked the modem and looked at the stats? Just to double check the sync.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 12-Aug-13 13:08:12
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The BT Wholesale Performance Test, Further diagnostics gives the sync's and IP Profile.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 12-Aug-13 13:11:43
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I always forget about this being on LLU. Very good idea.
Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 12-Aug-13 13:58:55
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As far as I'm aware the LTE chips in the iPhone 5 are actually newer than Samsungs. They are not outdated, they just do not support as much as samsungs chip. Apple have gone for the mainstream frequencies which for some reason we chose not to use. Rather stupidly in my opinion. We should have used 700Mhz IMO. Also we are extremely behind as a country in our rollout plans although atleast we are rolling out quite aggressively (well EE are). We shall see what other networks are like fairly shortly.
Standard User acpsd775
(experienced) Tue 13-Aug-13 12:48:32
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All that has to happen is that an Openreach engineer should have been tasked to remove the cabinet jumpers connecting your line to the FTTC DSLAM, easy job, takes no more 15 minutes, tops. Due to filters on in the FTTC DSLAM cabinet, you will not get ADSL sync returned until this has been done. Hassle Sky to get this sorted.


another update got a call last night from sky tier 2 there sending an engineer out tomorrow (13/8/13) dont get why i have to be in like suly they can remove the fibre off my line without coming to the house had to rearrange some tings but oh well if they sort it out be worth it lol

then again i cant fault my three contract its been a godsend since last friday lol

been watching now TV all weekend downloaded some games on steam and installed the full wow client lol all at 20meg WTG three for not been like other networks with pathetic speeds and data allowance's is all i can say lol

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mvg8va19x9ohdgc/usage.png

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2893289192

Ash

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Standard User systemx
(experienced) Tue 13-Aug-13 13:12:12
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Maybe they want to retrieve the Openreach modem
Standard User acpsd775
(experienced) Tue 13-Aug-13 13:17:31
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Maybe they want to retrieve the Openreach modem


surely if that was the case they would of come for it on the 8th when they activated ADSL and i dont think they ask for them back ive got 2 (well 3 because i bought on off ebay) 2 ECIs provided by OR and 1 huawei, suppose ill find out tomorrow and best move some draws out of the way on the off chance they want to get access to the phone socket.

im sure It should be just a case of going and actually uncoupling the fibre headers though as this is what they forgot to do on the 8th

Ash

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