Come on Max - you are having a very bad day.

There is no exchange called Manchester Central, and the nearest to that description I know of was fibre-less until recently I believe.

An exchange called Central located in Manchester

Thanks . I've been caught out by that one before but was able to work out that was it then.


Only some of its areas have FTTC though. It was very late getting anything, as I said.

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 27-Aug-13 23:56:11)

Blame the GPO! They named these exchanges before it was possible for Central 1234 in Liverpool to dial long-distance to Central 1234 in Manchester without asking the operator to get the # and call you back .

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In reply to a post by zyborg47:

With the dreaded DLM and Bt version of it, no matter what ISp you go with.

The DLM is OpenReach's, and it's a lot friendlier than the BTW version... though I'd agree it would be even better if it wasn't there.

I am pretty sure the system would work ok without it. i know on ADSl, my cable and wireless connection work a lot better without DLM than my BT connection with it.

Maybe Bt should disable it and sere what happens, you never know their equipment may work better.

I been ask plusnet to disabled DLM a couple of months ago but the fault team had spoken to BT Wholesale via echat as BT Wholesale rejected it and say the DLM cannot disabled for some reason.

Edited by adslmax (Wed 28-Aug-13 22:00:19)

Maybe because that's the product they offer and if you don't like it you buy someone else's? Same with cars, houses, and baked beans.

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I am pretty sure the system would work ok without it. i know on ADSl, my cable and wireless connection work a lot better without DLM than my BT connection with it.
Maybe Bt should disable it and sere what happens, you never know their equipment may work better.

(FWIW, C&W is now Vodafone Networks).

The DLM might be bad for a few people, but I suspect the majority of users (whom have never heard of this forum) are better off with it. Most people prioritise stability over ultimate speed, as streaming and downloading and internet banking don't work too well with disconnections.

In my opinion DLM is used by BT mostly to avoid having to fix minor faults with their old copper lines which ultimately saves them money.

For ADSL this worked quite well... though there were a lot of people who love being without it... Talktalk and Sky, O2 and Be.

DLM on FTTC punishes good lines that are ok apart from a bit of occasional noise or crosstalk. We need an option to have it turned off.

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DLM on FTTC punishes good lines that are ok apart from a bit of occasional noise or crosstalk.

If it's occasional then in my experience the DLM ignores it.

We need an option to have it turned off.

Not really. An option to reset it after a one-off exceptionally noisy episode might be useful though.