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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 27-Aug-13 21:27:20
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Re: DLM is driving me crazy!!!


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
Come on Max - you are having a very bad day.

There is no exchange called Manchester Central, and the nearest to that description I know of was fibre-less until recently I believe.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-Aug-13 22:13:00
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An exchange called Central located in Manchester

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 27-Aug-13 23:04:08
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Thanks smile. I've been caught out by that one before but was able to work out that was it then.


Only some of its areas have FTTC though. It was very late getting anything, as I said.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Tue 27-Aug-13 23:56:11)


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-Aug-13 23:19:31
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Re: DLM is driving me crazy!!!


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Blame the GPO! They named these exchanges before it was possible for Central 1234 in Liverpool to dial long-distance to Central 1234 in Manchester without asking the operator to get the # and call you back grin.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 28-Aug-13 21:53:44
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Re: DLM is driving me crazy!!!


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In reply to a post by billford:
In reply to a post by zyborg47:
With the dreaded DLM and Bt version of it, no matter what ISp you go with.
The DLM is OpenReach's, and it's a lot friendlier than the BTW version... though I'd agree it would be even better if it wasn't there.


I am pretty sure the system would work ok without it. i know on ADSl, my cable and wireless connection work a lot better without DLM than my BT connection with it.

Maybe Bt should disable it and sere what happens, you never know their equipment may work better.

Adrian

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 28-Aug-13 21:59:53
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I been ask plusnet to disabled DLM a couple of months ago but the fault team had spoken to BT Wholesale via echat as BT Wholesale rejected it and say the DLM cannot disabled for some reason.

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Edited by adslmax (Wed 28-Aug-13 22:00:19)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 28-Aug-13 22:32:44
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Maybe because that's the product they offer and if you don't like it you buy someone else's? Same with cars, houses, and baked beans.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 29-Aug-13 08:18:11
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Re: DLM is driving me crazy!!!


[re: zyborg47] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by zyborg47:
I am pretty sure the system would work ok without it. i know on ADSl, my cable and wireless connection work a lot better without DLM than my BT connection with it.
Maybe Bt should disable it and sere what happens, you never know their equipment may work better.


(FWIW, C&W is now Vodafone Networks).

The DLM might be bad for a few people, but I suspect the majority of users (whom have never heard of this forum) are better off with it. Most people prioritise stability over ultimate speed, as streaming and downloading and internet banking don't work too well with disconnections.

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Standard User timl
(member) Thu 29-Aug-13 08:44:29
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In my opinion DLM is used by BT mostly to avoid having to fix minor faults with their old copper lines which ultimately saves them money.

For ADSL this worked quite well... though there were a lot of people who love being without it... Talktalk and Sky, O2 and Be.

DLM on FTTC punishes good lines that are ok apart from a bit of occasional noise or crosstalk. We need an option to have it turned off.

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Standard User billford
(elder) Thu 29-Aug-13 08:50:04
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In reply to a post by timl:
DLM on FTTC punishes good lines that are ok apart from a bit of occasional noise or crosstalk.
If it's occasional then in my experience the DLM ignores it.
We need an option to have it turned off.
Not really. An option to reset it after a one-off exceptionally noisy episode might be useful though.

Bill
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