FTTP ISP?

I've got FTTC and BT Checker says I can get FTTP but can't find any ISP doing this yet?

Bt retail via Infinity

Plusnet via a trial.

Claranet but looking at sme pricing then

I'm guessing if you already have FTTC then it is FTTPod you can get?

Not aware of being able to get full FTTP and FTTC, but possibly wrong.

Edited by BuckleZ (Mon 18-Nov-13 17:25:32)

If a property has native fttp then fttc not available but fttc type speeds are available at same wholesale prices

Not sure what type of FTTC I have but:

http://s23.postimg.org/729ipula3/Untitled.jpg

Confirms what's been said, you've got FTTC and can have FTTP if you are prepared to pay for it - the initial cost could be very high.

FTTPoD!

In reply to a post by ashmo:

Not sure what type of FTTC I have but:

http://s23.postimg.org/729ipula3/Untitled.jpg

As has been said, FTTPoD is probably going to be expensive.

In addition to a fixed installation fee of £500, a distance based construction charge will also apply, reflecting the costs of building a fibre network direct to a customer�s premise. In line with what we�ve said previously, we estimate that more than half of premises will incur a distance based charge of between £200 and £1000. Premises that are further away from the relevant part of the fibre network will incur a higher charge due the extra engineering work involved.

It will be up to communications providers to decide whether to pass these charges on to consumers and businesses.

In reply to a post by kasg:

Confirms what's been said, you've got FTTC and can have FTTP if you are prepared to pay for it - the initial cost could be very high.

The wholesale cost of the FTTPoD installation and connection can be seen in the Openreach price list. For an estimated 54.7/15.7 Mbit/s FTTC connection, I'd estimate the OP to be in Band B - 200 to 400m from the aggregation node (which is likely to be near the cabinet).

For Band B, the ISP will have to pay £1100 + VAT installation costs, then £456 + VAT a year for three years for the circuit (you have to take the 330/30 Mbit/s option on FTTPoD). The backhaul and other ISP costs have to be added to this.


I'm not sure any ISP offers a retail FTTPoD product, but I'd expect Band B costs in the range of £1320 install (i.e. passing on the entire installation costs) and a minimum of £60/month (and probably, more realistically, £80-100 per month) on a 36 month minimum contract period.

BT Retail may offer the cheapest monthly costs, though I believe they are not currently offering FTTPoD on consumer Infinity Option 4 pricing.


As can be seen, FTTPoD really is a business product.

In reply to a post by David_W:

For an estimated 54.7/15.7 Mbit/s FTTC connection, I'd estimate the OP to be in Band B - 200 to 400m from the aggregation node (which is likely to be near the cabinet).

Not really the case, the node may actually be a fair distance from the cabinet.

Remember the aggregation node is there to aggregate multiple cabinets hence is going to be at a point where it's near-equidistant from a few of them and, logically, on the route back to the handover node.

Here's the route between the cabinet currently being built near here and its node - as detailed to me by the guys blowing fibre between them.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

In reply to a post by David_W:

For an estimated 54.7/15.7 Mbit/s FTTC connection, I'd estimate the OP to be in Band B - 200 to 400m from the aggregation node (which is likely to be near the cabinet).

Not really the case, the node may actually be a fair distance from the cabinet.

I was approximating to gain a lower bound on the cost. I can't think the OP is better than Band B, and may be in an even more expensive band if the aggregation node is distant from the cabinet as you rightly point out it might be.

At the current pricing FTTPoD is a non-starter for most consumers, though the speed premium over FTTC will make it worthwhile for some.

What's that link supposed to be? It looks weird.

It doesn't work on this laptop, nor on an iPad with google.maps installed.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

What's that link supposed to be? It looks weird.

Its a google short URL created from the Google Maps website. Works fine in Firefox 25 on Win7 here. When you click the chain link button to share a map, you get short URLs as an option, the long one is very long. I'll paste it below.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Throstle+Rd+N&d...

Works fine on my Android tablet with Google Maps installed to.

Problem solved !

It was displaying with the Directions panel showing. All the relevant section of the map, with the blue line, was masked .

With your link, the panel didn't show so I was able to see what was wrong.

The reason I said the link looked weird was the conversion of the first bit to goo.gl - I don't recall seeing that sort of construction in short URLs. Probably because I haven't seen google ones, only tiny ones.

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 19-Nov-13 14:25:16)

Same effect but worse on the iPad - the directions took the whole page. So I played around just now and found how to dismiss it.

Galaxy SIII won't believe the link . Whatever tricks I try. Insists on substituting http://goo.gl/maps/QsYuY even when I refuse that.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Bt retail via Infinity

Plusnet via a trial.

Claranet but looking at sme pricing then

I believe AAISP does it too.

Link works on my S4, but zooms right out, and 1/3 of the screen is taken up with a blank white bar.

OK, I've solved the SIII issue as well. I was typing the link into the google search field/widget. As I said, it refused to accept it. So I have just gone to another website, so I can access the URL bar. Entering the link there works fine, with the same caveat of course that I had to dismiss the directions section. If you see a wavy type page with an upside-down teardrop, near the top right, click that .