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Standard User TomPoolHD
(newbie) Tue 19-Nov-13 21:23:59
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Re: When will we get better internet?


[re: Ignitionnet] [link to this post]
 
Have you got any ideas on how we would get a better speed ? I checked on the bt infinity checker and it gave me a option for Bt Faster total broadband at 7mb/s and we chose that option.. Had a engineer visit and he said that he could not install the broadband because the line was to long..He said that some of the cable under the bypass was aliminium and that would drive down the speed with the partial fibre service. That was the end of the 7mb/s they had predicted and we just stuck with thre adsl.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 20-Nov-13 00:37:02
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Re: When will we get better internet?


[re: TomPoolHD] [link to this post]
 
Surely BT can put new Cabinet nearby you. Why can't they do this? FTTC is the future (rubbish it isn't as BT still doing cabinets for FTTC even 1km away was very bad move as customers fed up being stuck at below 7Meg)

plusnetADSL2+16 Meg

Edited by adslmax (Wed 20-Nov-13 00:37:57)

Standard User ccxo
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 20-Nov-13 01:25:53
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Re: When will we get better internet?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
http://goo.gl/maps/zlTXh

Cab 9, if the op has not found it.

Orange BB 5856/448


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Standard User eckiedoo
(committed) Wed 20-Nov-13 07:38:08
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Re: When will we get better internet?


[re: TomPoolHD] [link to this post]
 
Morning Tom
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For FTTC Ranges A and B, the term "Clean" relates to a line which is free from any wiring issues (e.g. Bridge Taps) and/or Copper line conditions, and the term "Impacted" relates to a line which may have wiring issues (e.g. Bridge Taps) and/or Copper line conditions.

Throughput/download speeds will be less than line rates and can be affected by a number of factors within and external to BT's network, Communication Providers' networks and within customer premises.
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Note the reference to "Copper Line Conditions" (which although not stated, also includes Aluminium - poorer conductor).

And also "within the customer premises" - ie from the Network Terminating Box (NTE) onwards to any and all devices both directly and obviously connected to your internal phone extensions; and also other devices such as plasma TV sets, micro-wave cookers etc.

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If you have not already done so recently, you should go through the Quiet Line" Test procedures, if available.

First try dialling 17070.

If you get an automated reply about testing etc, press 2 for the Quiet Test - 4 if SKY is your Phone Provider.

Apart from a very low hum on some lines, the line should be quiet, NO loud noises, "snap, crackle and pops" etc.

Having established that you have access to the QLT, then go to the NTE, the generally white box where your phone line becomes available in your house.

If it is the more recent type, remove the front section to reveal a single Test Socket.

Otherwise plug in preferably a corded, (preferably older and siimple) phone.

Repeat the QLT - if you hear any untoward noise, report this to your PHONE PROVIDER - who should then deal with BT including Openreach - the latter being the owner and maintainer of most phone lines in the UK.

Repeat the QLT withan ADSL Splitter added, ie NTE through Splitter to phone.

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You may also wish to test your own phone wiring within your house - your responsibility.

Reconnect at the NTE, then progressively connect individual extensions and devices, doing a QLT each time. No Charge!

Also progressively switch on other devices, such as TV sets, micro-wave cookers, alarms etc, again doing a QLT at each stage.

Yes, it can be time-consuming - but if you are to get the best performance out of Broadband, whether ADSL, VDSL etc, delivered over the phone line, you need to work through all of those stages.
Standard User gah789
(learned) Wed 20-Nov-13 09:47:32
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[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
This is a classic rural/isolated broadband situation that is not likely to be addressed by BT or BDUK in the foreseeable future as the cost per connection served of installing a new cabinet is much too high. There are people in similar situations who have done something for themselves, but it requires a considerable amount of effort.

I can't see from Google Maps whether in Old Malton there is a church with a steeple or another building with a high point that is visible from your side of the A64. What you would need to do is: form a small cooperative of people on your side, install a receiving antenna on a high point in Old Malton that can be served by one or more FTTC connections, and link to that using a small wireless antenna from masts on the top of your building(s) or nearby trees. The land seems pretty flat and the density of trees could be much worse, so that there should be a way of routing the signals to avoid obstacles.

The difficulty is that this is much more complicated than just ringing your preferred ISP. It will be considerably cheaper if you can share the wireless infrastructure. Hence, what really matters is how much effort you and/or others in the same situation are prepared to put in. But as many people living on farms or genuinely rural locations have found, no-one else is going to do anything to improve matters.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 20-Nov-13 09:58:25
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Re: When will we get better internet?


[re: Ignitionnet] [link to this post]
 
Cabinet is enabled, but their line is too long so Openreach not offering it.

have now seen location and distance 1.8 miles

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 20-Nov-13 09:59:58
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Re: When will we get better internet?


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
Would you spend £30,000 to bring FTTC to perhaps 5 people?

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 20-Nov-13 10:01:27
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[re: gah789] [link to this post]
 
Having had a chance to look at the maps and the isolation of the property in question, yes this is one of those it falls outside the scope of BDUK projects.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 20-Nov-13 10:13:43
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Re: When will we get better internet?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Cabinet is enabled, but their line is too long so Openreach not offering it.

have now seen location and distance 1.8 miles


Feel sorry for the residental customers. BT are simple very bad and don't care about customers. Why isn't BT keep waste of million of pounds of putting cabinets 1.8 miles away from the property is pretty madness.

plusnetADSL2+16 Meg
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 20-Nov-13 10:16:06
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[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Would you spend £30,000 to bring FTTC to perhaps 5 people?


Because BT are waste of million of pound of putting too many cabinets below 25Mbps and the distance is unbelieved too far away. BT never learn the future technology and BT should stop called superfast broadband if FTTC cannot getting more than 25Mbps.

plusnetADSL2+16 Meg

Edited by adslmax (Wed 20-Nov-13 10:17:02)

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