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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Wed 04-Dec-13 12:30:24
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Filled Cabinet


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Looks as though after all the publicity,etc, residents have filled Hunslet cabinet 82's available capacity. In a day.

It's disappeared from the checker unless checking via a phone number that has an FTTC order against it, presumably because there's no date yet for more capacity.

Does this sound like the likely course of events, and how long have people waited for new cards / tie pair installs?
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 04-Dec-13 13:11:16
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this is your cabinet? dont tell me you did all that campaigning and didnt get your order in?

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Edited by Chrysalis (Wed 04-Dec-13 13:11:49)

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Wed 04-Dec-13 14:13:00
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It is my cabinet, my orders are both in just fine.


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 04-Dec-13 16:10:52
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Maybe the availability checker is hosted by the Royal Bank of Scotland.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Wed 04-Dec-13 17:05:19
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Hah!

In this case it's correct. The existing card(s) was/were filled in what was apparently record time BT inform.

More capacity coming ASAP. Guess they message that more would be needed as this was a community driven programme was lost and it went in with a single 48 port card it seems. Cabinet went live early yesterday morning, was full by yesterday afternoon/evening.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 04-Dec-13 19:04:56
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In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:
It is my cabinet, my orders are both in just fine.


do you think BT are still wondering if the cabinet is viable smile

sold out in a day.

my area they didnt exactly rush out early and it had a 2nd cabinet installed within 6 months.

what isp's?

I think I will be ordering a 2nd FTTC line soon, see what the new pair throws up, then consider cancelling the old service, but may keep 2 FTTC.

BT Infinity 2 Since Dec 2012 - BQM

Edited by Chrysalis (Wed 04-Dec-13 19:08:03)

Standard User Ribble
(experienced) Thu 05-Dec-13 10:23:28
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I reckon it will available again very soon
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-Dec-13 10:43:44
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I reckon it will available again very soon


I am quite sure you are right, going by the card install that happened this morning smile

Pretty rapid seller!
Standard User TheManStan
(member) Thu 05-Dec-13 11:17:03
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I expect this is because it's all OR.

If it's anything else, then the BT monster has to follow OFCOM rules and go through all the processes any other ISP call in would have to go through. This reduces their responsiveness, but meets "guidelines"...
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Dec-13 13:07:10
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In reply to a post by Ribble:
I reckon it will available again very soon


It will also be full again very soon. There are >48 ports worth of orders outstanding, that's just the people who have posted on the community Facebook page, and just a single card has been installed.

Looks like the take up prediction was nearly as off as the premises passed information.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 06-Dec-13 13:54:05
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Maybe geeks all live in close proximity, hence the high levels of demand.

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Dec-13 14:56:55
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In this instance there are relatively few geeks but ADSL tops out at 2Mb for the really lucky ones and it's a relatively affluent part of the area with many professions and people who would work from home if they could.

I give the new card 10 hours. At least 60 connections that I'm aware of are waiting to be ordered, ignoring that the demand I'm not aware of appears to be about the same again going by the first time around.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 06-Dec-13 17:48:22
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you can say what isp's you gone with?

I am guessing maybe plusnet and sky?

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Dec-13 22:10:29
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you can say what isp's you gone with?


The first is Plusnet, the 2nd remains to be seen as the first company appears to have made a royal cock up of my order.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 21-Feb-14 13:29:39
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In reply to a post by Ribble:
I reckon it will available again very soon


I reckon at least 4 cards are full now. Should be some more capacity early March.

Not bad for an area that wasn't economically viable. smile

Edited by Ignitionnet (Fri 21-Feb-14 13:30:11)

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 21-Feb-14 13:31:57
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In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:
I give the new card 10 hours. At least 60 connections that I'm aware of are waiting to be ordered, ignoring that the demand I'm not aware of appears to be about the same again going by the first time around.


I never got back to this. I wasn't that far out. On the day the new card went live orders placed at about 12:30pm were getting knocked back.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 21-Feb-14 13:45:10
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In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:
... I never got back to this. I wasn't that far out. On the day the new card went live orders placed at about 12:30pm were getting knocked back.
You couldn't make it up! In a sitcom no-one would believe it.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 21-Feb-14 15:41:12
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:
... I never got back to this. I wasn't that far out. On the day the new card went live orders placed at about 12:30pm were getting knocked back.
You couldn't make it up! In a sitcom no-one would believe it.


That would be a really excrement-y sitcom.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sat 22-Feb-14 00:24:23
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do you think you will have a 2nd cabinet within 6 months of the first?

I did email back patricia hewitt who told me a few years ago that she was told my area had no demand and the numbers didnt add up, when FTTC was eventually rolled out 6 months later a 2nd cabinet appeared, so I guess they misjudged demand smile

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Sat 22-Feb-14 13:00:48
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Didn't they initially put a small cabinet where you were too?

We'll see. It'll certainly be looked at in the near future I imagine.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Sat 22-Mar-14 14:30:11
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Still Full


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4 line cards in and the cabinet has been waiting for a 5th since early February. Dates offered for the new install went 5th March, 12th March, 26th March and now 16th April.

Given the enormous scrap that was had to get the thing built out in the first place I can't say this makes me happy.

This previously unviable cabinet will have spent over half its life since initial go-live unavailable due to lack of capacity.
Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 25-Mar-14 04:21:22
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Hope you agreed a good clawback when takeup went beyond 20% wink
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Tue 25-Mar-14 11:16:18
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Hope you agreed a good clawback when takeup went beyond 20% wink


Not as good as the one when it goes beyond 50% - IE when this 5th card goes in and the people waiting actually get to order on it.

Shame we didn't get FTTP. Would've given a way better uptake than Openreach have seen on average so far, and ducting is all less than 5 years old.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 25-Mar-14 11:24:47
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No you forget you are the ideal candidate to tell us what cross talk speed reductions are like and whether it gets down to no-one getting anywhere close to the theory of up to 76 Mbps

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Tue 25-Mar-14 11:47:49
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No you forget you are the ideal candidate to tell us what cross talk speed reductions are like and whether it gets down to no-one getting anywhere close to the theory of up to 76 Mbps


Already done that part - people continue to receive full sync even with 191 connections on the cabinet. My own max rate started off at 98Mb and is now 73Mb.

Let's just say I am stubbornly refusing to reboot the Huawei modem.
Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 25-Mar-14 15:27:14
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Let's just say I am stubbornly refusing to reboot the Huawei modem.

I remember that feeling.

Then, when I bit the bullet I was extremely surprised to still see an 80Mbps sync, and the max attainable jumping back up to over 83.

That was with the old firmware though. The attainable doesn't drop in the same with with the new firmware.
Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 25-Mar-14 15:29:53
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No you forget you are the ideal candidate to tell us what cross talk speed reductions are like and whether it gets down to no-one getting anywhere close to the theory of up to 76 Mbps

Hmmm. I guess it depends on the distances, and how much the cables stay in one bundle (a linear network) vs being spread into many small bundles (a circular network).

Ignition - do you know what the longest line on the cabinet is?
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Tue 25-Mar-14 15:57:17
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Ignition - do you know what the longest line on the cabinet is?


Yes Mr Wombat, I have the wiring diagram for the site.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Tue 25-Mar-14 15:58:00
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I remember that feeling.

Then, when I bit the bullet I was extremely surprised to still see an 80Mbps sync, and the max attainable jumping back up to over 83.


Ah yes the bitswap tax.
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