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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 31-Dec-13 11:33:57
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Changing Fibre router. Looking for suggestions please.


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Hi Everyone

I am due to have Fibre installed on the 7th of Jan, and I have just had the plusnet router turn up and it doesn't fill me with much confidence about the performance that I will get from it. So I am looking at picking up another router, and wondered if people had any recommendations.

Would something like the Asus DSL-N55U be any good? Also where I am new to the whole Fibre thing, is it still a modem/router combo that I need?

Thanks for any recommendations.
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(deleted) Tue 31-Dec-13 12:07:18
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Just another quick questions would the Netgear 200Mbps Mini Powerline Twin Pack Ethernet Adapter work ok with a Fibre connection?

Thanks
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Dec-13 12:11:18
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As far as router goes you should get a modem from plusnet so can either go with router only (and connect to the modem) or a dual modem/router unit. No experience with the Asus I'm afraid.

The Netgears will of course work but throughput on a good day may not be more than about 60Mbps (not sure exact specs of that one but one post I've seen states they didn't get above 35Mbps). 200Mbps powerline would be unlikely to be able to take full advantage of an 80Mbps Internet connection.


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Standard User flippery
(committed) Tue 31-Dec-13 15:12:31
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The N55U is an ADSL modem which can be used as a standalone router add on to VDSL modem.
The N66u is a VDSL modem router or can be used as a router only,
What are openreach installing? modem or homehub 5. If latter wait before purchasing router.

Edited by flippery (Tue 31-Dec-13 15:18:47)

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(deleted) Tue 31-Dec-13 15:19:44
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Hi flippery

From what I understand it is going to be a modem, and plusnet have sent me a router. Would it only be a Homehub if I signed up to BT Infinity?
Standard User flippery
(committed) Tue 31-Dec-13 16:13:32
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N66U is a ADSL2 modem but dual wan router ( adsl/vdsl)

Should have read post better. i thought Openreach were now supplying self install and HH5 to all but appears, as you say, not the case.
You need a router to supply to fit to pre installed modem

This link should give more information

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/default_ShopGroup.as...
Standard User iand
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 31-Dec-13 16:18:43
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I only got 23-25M from my powerline 200 devices. I now use the 500M vesions and get a solid 40M (I only have 40M FTTC).

IanD
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 31-Dec-13 16:27:13
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In reply to a post by flippery:
Should have read post better. i thought Openreach were now supplying self install and HH5 to all but appears, as you say, not the case.
If he was with BT then he would get the HH5, but he's with Plus Net.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 31-Dec-13 16:38:21
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My current line estimation is 79-80Mb down and 20Mb up. Would the 500Mb version be any good or would I need another version?

Thanks
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Dec-13 17:26:22
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Plusnet should supply HH5 as it on BT shop now: http://www.shop.bt.com/products/bt-home-hub-5-90RY.html

plusnetADSL2+16 Meg
Standard User kasg
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 31-Dec-13 17:35:21
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In reply to a post by ScottJames:
My current line estimation is 79-80Mb down and 20Mb up. Would the 500Mb version be any good or would I need another version?

You can't get faster than 500Mbps powerline adapters AFAIK.

Kevin

plusnet Unlimited Fibre - BQM
Using OpenDNS
Domains and web hosting with TSOHOST
Standard User kasg
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 31-Dec-13 17:36:52
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
Plusnet should supply HH5 as it on BT shop now: http://www.shop.bt.com/products/bt-home-hub-5-90RY.html

What has its appearance on the BT shop got to do with it?

Kevin

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 31-Dec-13 19:09:46
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I believe that plusnet are a sister company of BT?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 31-Dec-13 19:28:32
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A wholly owned subsidiary, run independently with different products, prices and real UK intelligent support, (most of the time - a lot of new recruits)

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User kasg
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 31-Dec-13 19:35:57
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In reply to a post by ScottJames:
I believe that plusnet are a sister company of BT?

As posted by RobertoS, a subsidiary, but still irrelevant in the context of a BT product being offered for sale on a consumer website.

Kevin

plusnet Unlimited Fibre - BQM
Using OpenDNS
Domains and web hosting with TSOHOST
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(deleted) Tue 31-Dec-13 19:50:35
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Thanks for clearing that up RobertoS, I did wonder how it was setup! I was just assuming that is where adslmax was coming from with his comment about the HH5.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 31-Dec-13 20:30:48
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He's the resident nice but nutty guy smile. Comes out with all sorts of rubbish like that, with the occasional useful gem thrown in smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 31-Dec-13 22:03:38
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Every forum has to have a nutty guy to keep things entertaining wink

Thanks for all the replies, and Happy New Year to everyone smile
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 31-Dec-13 22:12:05
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asus routers are popular, but I suggest having a openreach approved modem, so either the ECI or HG modem to go with it.

As far as I know plusnet are not currently doing a router/modem combo so its very likely you will get a openreach modem anyway on your install day.

Plusnet Fibre Unlimited BQM
Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 01-Jan-14 14:51:34
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I installed the 6800WXN and it's working. No problems getting initial connection. In fact with IDNet all I needed was the username and password. It already defaulted to PPPoE and dual stack IPv6/IPv4.

But port forwarding took me a while to figure out. Firstly (and mainly) because unlike other routers it's all under the term 'Virtual Servers'. Secondly because I enabled SPI in the firewall settings early on and ignored the warning about it preventing Virtual Servers because at the time didn't think I'd be using that.

The final puzzle was getting it to respond to WAN pings. A Google search found this ( http://boards.portforward.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1741 ) and it works but to be honest I still don't understand what it's doing. I already had an entry that appears to enable all applications for my WAN IP address.

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Standard User simon194
(committed) Wed 01-Jan-14 16:59:23
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In reply to a post by kasg:
In reply to a post by ScottJames:
My current line estimation is 79-80Mb down and 20Mb up. Would the 500Mb version be any good or would I need another version?

You can't get faster than 500Mbps powerline adapters AFAIK.

AV500 should be more than adequate unless you happen to have a 300 Mbps connection. My Netgear AV500 top out a around 14 MBytes/s copying files between PC's and the two adapters is on a different ring main.
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