Hyperoptic vs BT FTTP

I'm moving into one of the new olympic village flats and have a choice between Hyperoptic and a BT based FTTP service, which is definitely a plus .

I'm thinking to give hyperoptic a try first. Anyone have any thoughts?

What speeds are on offer from Hyperoptic and BT ?

Leaving aside their respective speeds for a moment a point to consider is that using the Hyperoptic connection you have the choice of just one ISP, Hyperoptic, whereas if you decide to go with the BT connection you have numerous ISPs to choose from. It all depends what you require or expect from your ISP over and above a connection to the internet.

Whichever has the shortest contract.

Isn't your sig a little out of date ?

1gigabit from hyperoptic, and I guess up to 330mbit/sec from BT (or other BT-based ISP).

You mean this?

The "Hyper-sonic" package, incredible 1 Gig download and 1 Gig upload.

This appears to be a no-brainer.

I'd definitely go with Hyperoptic, their speeds will be a lot less contended and I bet the customer service will be better than most BT-based ISPs.

Well if you get the Hyperoptic gigabit I think you have a moral obligation to post endless screencasts of a 128MB/s download

If you read the Hyperoptic website they recommend not using a router if you want the highest speed from the 1 gig service. Their supplied router tops out a 829 Mbps apparently.

I'm on fttp (Plusnet) and would recommend Hyperoptic. The BT based fttp is hard to switch between ISPs as most do not market the product. It is a trial product with Plusnet or Zen, only BT Retail market it as a product.

This means that I cannot just switch ISP using a MAC code (that is written into my Plusnet contract by the way) but need to cancel with Plusnet and go to another provider to see if I can be accepted for their trial or use BT Retail.

So until fttp is a proper marketed product with ISP switching using MAC codes, if you have a choice to use a non BT based fttp then use it.

Your logic doesn't make sense, you're basically saying that with FTTP you have very little choice of ISP and it's complicated to move, but at least you have a choice.

With hyperoptic there is no choice, but he could still switch to FTTP.

Either way it's a great position to be in. I think it really depends on what package suits the OP the best, as in what speed they really need.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Isn't your sig a little out of date ?

We've had this before, don't get hung up on it. I have signatures set to not display.

You also need to look at customer service too.

FTTP is not without its issues, all the BT based fttp links in my local geographical area have been suffering with speed degradation since 4th December 2013. So my ISP choice is moot as it is the infrastructure that is at fault. Regular BTW speed test of 0.00Mbps, speeds reduced to well under 10% of the maximum for 18hours at a time, BT customers unable to stream HD TV programs. And 13 weeks of hand wringing from all concerned with only 1 attempted fix in that time frame. Well if you excluded the 4 home visits from engineers to me and the countless other customers in the area who all get multiple visits when the problem is clearly exchange based.

That is why you avoid trials if you have a choice and BT based fttp too!

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In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Isn't your sig a little out of date ?

We've had this before, don't get hung up on it. I have signatures set to not display.

That is idiotic. You don't want to see others' sigs, fine. But having an incorrect one yourself is OK? You have it purely to mislead and/or annoy then? Geez!

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In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Isn't your sig a little out of date ?

We've had this before, don't get hung up on it. I have signatures set to not display.

That is idiotic. You don't want to see others' sigs, fine. But having an incorrect one yourself is OK? You have it purely to mislead and/or annoy then? Geez!

Like I said, don't get hung up on it.

Your sig displays. You can't stop it doing so other than by deleting it. Perhaps you don't understand that.

You say this has been discussed before. That means you have now at least twice spent more time being ridiculous about it than you would have done in fixing it. Incredible.

Like I said, don't get hung up on. And calm down.

I'm just utterly amazed that someone who is probably quite intelligent can be such a twit.

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I'm just utterly amazed that someone who is probably quite intelligent can be such a twit.

Now you're being insulting. Calm down and move on.

By the way, when I said "we've had this before", I'm talking about you.

Try to think of another meaning for my autosig - that's why it was originally penned, and why it's still there. I thought it was quite clever at the time, possibly too clever on reflection.

As long as my auto sig is not offensive (it isn't), it will stay.

Now, calm down

Sorry to the OP about my personal inspector of auto sigs.

Perhaps if you explained the subtle meaning of it, which is clearly beyond my tiny brain to divine, I might appreciate its cleverness and compliment you on it .

a question is how much of that 1gig that hyper optic supplies do you get access to or is that shared acroos the wholse site the i think the FTTP 330 has that speed guarantees

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a question is how much of that 1gig that hyper optic supplies do you get access to or is that shared acroos the wholse site the i think the FTTP 330 has that speed guarantees

I think HyperOptic install multiple 1Gig connections to the building, so if you buy the Hyper-Sonic plan you get 1Gig to your door.

Best thing about HyperOptic is all the plans are symmetric. 20/20 or 100/100 or 1000/1000 !!

In reply to a post by Fastman2:

a question is how much of that 1gig that hyper optic supplies do you get access to or is that shared acroos the wholse site the i think the FTTP 330 has that speed guarantees

The end user link is 1Gb. It's a 1Gb Cat5e/6 link to a switch onsite. From there the connection hits backhaul of n x 1Gb aggregated or 10Gb.

330Mb FTTP doesn't have a 330Mb guarantee on its throughput from what I can see?

Up to 32/64 customers share a PON split of 2.4Gb downstream with a further contention point across the CableLink from Openreach to CP. The only way Openreach can guarantee the 330Mb is to only connect 7 customers to each OLT, though I welcome correction on this!

As the product stands at the moment with BTWholesale the only 'mainstream' purchaser of GEA-FTTP there'll be the contention between the exchange, as the FTTP joins the rest of the traffic on the SVLAN, and the LAC then another contention point across MSIL to ISP.

I get 20/20 included with the flat from Hyperoptic - not sure how long for.

I can upgrade to 100/100 for £10/month and 1000/1000 for £20/month.

I'll see how I get on with hyperoptic. The only thing that possibly worries me is their peering - they're are a very small ISP and if they had bad congestion on their transit links, I can see it being horribly overloaded quite quickly.

£20 for 1000/1000. Lucky. If it was me I'd go for that, just for the hell of it.

Get both, do a performance vs cost comparison and report all findings here?
Haha, too much too ask?