Bribe a BT engineer

How much do you think it'd take for an engineer to sneak one of these onto a bunch of lines?
http://www.bectechnologies.net/main/vdsl2.shtml
Haha

For a second I thought you were being serious hahaha

Haha,I know.
I think what does frustrate me however is that a box like this could be dropped in on a bunch of lines, even part funded by the customers benefiting and hey pesto.
Obviously it all needs tested to death before BT would ever deploy such equipment.
Pity that it's only the exchanges that are llu, if only the infrastructure was too.
I.e. llu cabinets.

Hmm... It seems too good to be true though? I'm sure there's plenty of limits to its effectiveness.

On a side note, re my other thread did you get any line stats?

Edited by deleted (Sun 02-Mar-14 18:50:17)

I've found a chocolate digestive and a cup of tea to be highly effective

Keep saying that the issues are not technical, but the cost of doing the various solutions and the general desire within Openreach (and BT as a whole) to avoid custom solutions, i.e. they prefer to do large scale type solutions.

In reply to a post by flipdee:

Pity that it's only the exchanges that are llu, if only the infrastructure was too.
I.e. llu cabinets.

You can certainly get 'LLU' cabinets. See South Yorkshire Digital Region for an example.

Also Rutland Telecom

I agree and I know it's a silly suggestion, but I fear the large scale solution may leave more people without than originally expected.
I'm still not convinced these percentages and numbers (especially based on postcodes) are accurate enough.
With us nearing the end of the commercial roll out, once the dust settles,I think there will be a lot more premises left high and dry.
On the subject of llu cabinets, are there any further details on this available?

you need to quote as that page doesnt exist.

yes it does ...

Looks like a possible browser issue Chris. I reached the page using FF yesterday, but on my iPad now and it just gives an index page.

Not so. Not working on FF now. The page must have been moved for some reason.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Not so. Not working on FF now. The page must have been moved for some reason.

Still there in FF

That's odd. It's just giving me a list of google results now, and clicking a couple of the obvious ones for that site it just refreshes the screen.

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/llu/su...

Have reloaded it fully from the site to check it was not cached ... comes up fine.

Not Found

The requested URL /main/vdsl2.shtml was not found on this server.
Apache Server at www.bectechnologies.net Port 80

woooh

loads via my proxy server, crazy.

ok answer as to why me and robertos cant view it.

the ipv6 page is borked
ipv4 works

we both on native ipv6

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.bectechnologies.net
Addresses: 2607:f1c0:843:4500::9f:391
74.208.111.85

Edited by Chrysalis (Wed 05-Mar-14 09:18:16)

community can fund a cab or provide new infrastrcuture ato a village where not cabs exists through a dicrect conversaion with openreach there are ain increasing number who are doing it - See Openreach FAQ's

No idea ...

Just to "prove" I can see it: Screeenshot

yes idea.

I know its their ipv6 page as I tested viewing it in ipv6 and again in ipv4, ipv4 works, ipv6 = 404.

Maybe the vdsl2 extender isn't compatible with ipv6

Had anyone had any dealings with this?

In reply to a post by flipdee:

I agree and I know it's a silly suggestion, but I fear the large scale solution may leave more people without than originally expected.

Perhaps it isn't really that silly.

I saw two different presentations from BT (dated late 2013) that either mentioned "NGA Amplifiers" or pictured them in the network.

Here's what I wrote, with some links, a while back:

One presentation, from Openreach NGA manager to Lancashire county council, lists some things for coverage of the final 3%. See pages 11 and 12 of this Lancashire presentation.

Another presentation, from a chief engineer in Openreach responsible for access-network strategy to NICC on their open forum day, The presentation is here, on NICC's website. Page 9 has some solutions (FTTPoD, FTTdp, and wireless for rural access), while page 18 mentions some "BDUK infill" solutions, including "NGA Amplifiers", an "all in one FTTC cabinet" located deeper in the network than the standard PCP one, wireless cabinets, and more.

Who knows when, or even if, any of them will get deployed in reality. But it is good to know that solutions are being thought of - it means they are starting to think about the final 10%.

But up until today, I hadn't seen a piece of equipment that actually did the job.

Binfield Heath is one that paid to have FTTC cabinets at their SCPs rather than the usual PCP.

Islip too, but that was a more "normal" case IIRC.

Binfield Heath is one that paid to have FTTC cabinets at their SCPs rather than the usual PCP.

You really don't want to know the grief that has gone on there since .........

oooooooh
pray tell us more