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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 05-Mar-14 12:53:45
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Re: FTTC vs. FTTC/P


[re: ian72] [link to this post]
 
Fibre is ran to the top of the last pole (i.e. where fibre manifold is installed) or last pavement chamber and only when you order is the final few metres ran to the home.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Mar-14 12:59:25
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Re: FTTC vs. FTTC/P


[re: ian72] [link to this post]
 
As I'm on fttp in Milton Keynes, my experience and that of neighbours, is that the line is only installed when your order has been accepted.

I too do not see the business case for fttp installations unless the site is a new build or has modern under ground ducting and access points in every house.

This is my second fttp to the same premises. I was on an fttp test back in early 2000 which was 10Mbps each way but that never became a commercial product.When I signed up to fttp last year, Openreach installed another fibre from the cabinet to my house. At least this has become a commercial product even if my ISP insists it is still a trial.
Standard User AndyPandy
(experienced) Wed 05-Mar-14 13:23:53
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Re: FTTC vs. FTTC/P


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
So in an FTTC/P area, what would dictate whether an area within it is FTTC or FTTP?

I'm in a smallish village, with its own exchange. There is an industrial park, school etc.

I'd love BT to install FTTP for me, but I'm not sure on the liklihood...?

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AP

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Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 05-Mar-14 13:26:26
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Re: FTTC vs. FTTC/P


[re: AndyPandy] [link to this post]
 
If you are looking at the original 2011 leaked spreadsheets, then a large proportion of the FTTP areas have been changed to FTTC.

Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Wed 05-Mar-14 13:29:56
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Re: FTTC vs. FTTC/P


[re: AndyPandy] [link to this post]
 
I am not sure that anyone outside of the BT planners can answer that question. It will be based on their desktop planning but it is likely to include a very large number of variables before a final answer is given.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Mar-14 13:44:33
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[re: AndyPandy] [link to this post]
 
For our exchange most of the cabs were deployed as FTTC (6 or 7) but the lines connected to one cab are destined for FTTP. So no fibre cab is installed. The issue that I have is that the FTTC cabs have been in place and available for nearly 2 years while we are still on ADSL2+ and are waiting for FTTP which seem to be progressing very slowly if at all.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 05-Mar-14 13:48:14
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Re: FTTC vs. FTTC/P


[re: AndyPandy] [link to this post]
 
If on a non-LLU phone line you can get your cabinet number using this checker. If LLU, use the full address option, not the pure postode one.

You may also get FTTC speed estimates.

Given the cabinet number it is possible some posters may be able to give you the 2011 plan for it. That may have been changed by now, but "a certain person" may be able to give the current position.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Mar-14 14:23:46
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Re: FTTC vs. FTTC/P


[re: AndyPandy] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by AndyPandy:
So in an FTTC/P area, what would dictate whether an area within it is FTTC or FTTP?


Not sure BT themselves know going by their disastrous deployments of FTTP into areas that've ended up being insanely expensive to deploy to.

The commercial modelling as a whole is debatable, which is to be expected I guess from such a large programme. The decisions are only as good as the data that goes into them.
Standard User AndyPandy
(experienced) Wed 05-Mar-14 14:55:15
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
I'm on SMLN cab 2, however I doubt it'll be in 2011 plans - it's BDUK funded and the survey isn't until next month.

Cheers,
AP

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