Yet another cabinet status request (BDUK new PCP and FTTC ca

HI,

Please could a kind soul, lookup the status of Cabinet 3 on exchange Aysgarth, North Yorkshire.

Brief history:
Until recently our lines were exchange only. Around Christmas a fibre cabinet appeared in the village, followed a month or so later by a new telephone cabinet.
A month or so ago the adsl checker updated to show our line was connected via cabinet 3.
There have been numerous roadworks showing up on roadworks.org in the past few months for BT.
Just wondered if anyone had any further info.

Thanks in advance

Edited by deleted (Fri 09-May-14 16:19:00)

Lots of EO lines and previously just one cabinet.

Previous cab 1 is getting a fibre twin and some work to also upgrade EO lines, but does not look like all of them and looked my like FTTP than C. Location of the new cabinet might help.

I have the following info: So I guess your down in West Burton? Contractors have redone the clearing / fixing of the Ducting from the Garage around past the George and Dragon and past 'our' house. The map on the SFNY website has changed as it did cover Aysgarth but it has moved to cover Thoralby and West Burton. My hope is Cab 3 will at the exchange or even better in the village.

Cabinet 1 from Aysgarth exchange is at DL8 4JT and this is due to be upgraded for fibre by the Spring this year
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=401944&Y=487160...

Cabinet 3 will be a new cabinet (location as yet undetermined) to move over telephone lines directly from the exchange to fibre this is due by the end of Autumn this year.

The information provided by the maps is a high level overview of SFNY broadband deployment.
This information is subject to a further detailed survey and therefore indicative and may be subject to change.

I'm actually in Thoralby as is the new cabinet 3. Its opposite the post office on the main street through. The fibre twin appeared first, then the main PCP. Lines were all exchange only uptil about a month ago.

I too expected the new cabinets to be at the exchange, I wonder if there was some sort of planning issue.

Putting EO line cabinets at the exchange if the lines are long is a waste of money, better for the cabinet to be placed as close to the cluster of EO it will serve

Heres the location of the new cabinets.
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=400149&Y=487298...

and a photo
[IMG]http://i61.tinypic.com/2q89bgn.jpg[/IMG]

I have asked SFNY for an update ref Aysgarth Village will post back here:

Unless they bring this into the village with it only being 500m or so from the exchange?

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6373-progress-rep...

Thanks for the update and image - really good news for West Burton and Thoralby.

Wonder where Cab 2 is? Thornton Rust maybe

Edited by deleted (Mon 12-May-14 20:25:34)

Just wondering if you've had a reply back from SFNY regarding the village?

In reply to a post by Midville:

I have asked SFNY for an update ref Aysgarth Village will post back here:

Unless they bring this into the village with it only being 500m or so from the exchange?

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6373-progress-rep...

Thanks for the update and image - really good news for West Burton and Thoralby.

Wonder where Cab 2 is? Thornton Rust maybe

This is interesting to me too as I'm still watching for progress on the stop-start EO lines / new cabinet situation in Snainton, North Yorkshire. Sudden flurry last week of local BT roadworks.org action but nothing physical to see. SFNY have no more information currently. But good to hear that EO work is actively happening elsewhere...

I asked SFNY if they had any update on the rollout.
They said my new cabinet was due to go live by the end of Autumn (Exchange live date is end June).

I also asked about Aysgarth village itself, specifically what happened for the maps to change. They didn't answer that but replied that further funding had been allocated to SFNY and that they were currently planning which areas would be upgraded, but no further info available until at least end of September.

Got a nice surprise when I checked the BT line number checker today, earlier this week it had no mention of anything:

xxxxxxxxxxx on Exchange AYSGARTH is served by Cabinet 3


High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 79.9 20 19.9 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 80 71.3 20 17.9 -- Available

ADSL Max Up to 2 -- 1.5 to 4.5 Available
Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Other Offerings
Fibre Multicast -- -- -- Available

Nice one

Good to see you have got it great speeds too!

This is the reply from a while ago, my question was looking at why Aysgarth has been missed off EO lines and all that.

You�re correct that this is what is due to happen in Thoraby and some other areas of the county to cater for EO lines. The decision about where to enable is made by BT on the basis of maximising the number of properties with the money we have available. I understand your frustration with regard to number of businesses however from a BT perspective they purely work on the number of connections, whether they are business or residential.

Unfortunately FTTP is generally very expensive and is currently only be used in a handful of locations in North Yorkshire. The technology being looked at is called Fibre To The Remote Node (FTTRN) and is basically a mini-cabinet which can be installed up a telephone pole and has the potential to provide the same speeds as Fibre To The Cabinet (FTTC) but on a smaller scale and at a lower cost to FTTP. It could potentially be an option for communities like Aysgarth that can�t realistically be reached by FTTC (in a cost effective way). This product is due to be trialled shortly and this is the reason why it is likely to be some time before we know the detailed rollout plan for phase two. Like the first phase, the decision about which areas to upgrade will be made by BT based on maximising coverage with the funding we have available.

So, frustrating that it is, I suggest that the best option for Aysgarth is to wait until we know whether is it likely to benefit from this second phase of the rollout.

In reply to a post by armistice:

Got a nice surprise when I checked the BT line number checker today, earlier this week it had no mention of anything:

xxxxxxxxxxx on Exchange AYSGARTH is served by Cabinet 3


High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 79.9 20 19.9 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 80 71.3 20 17.9 -- Available

Good speed. I was estimated the same like this when I first joined FTTC but later Openreach changing estimated from 79.9 to 77.7

Fttp is available in not just north yorks. NY may be first bduk project to roll it out though but part of many other plans too

Don't suppose anyone has any further information on the go live date for cabinet 1 (West Burton) on the Aysgarth exchange? It was originally due for spring this year. BT have been doing lots of roadworks throughout the year to lay the cable to the exchange. I'm not sure if they have finished this yet.

Any help with getting information on this would be great. Thanks.

Cab 4 is up and runner (opposite exchange) according to DSL checker with roadwork's for fibre this week. Hopefully light at the end of the tunnel however it is 500 m or more outside of the village. Better upload hopefully!

In reply to a post by toasties:

Don't suppose anyone has any further information on the go live date for cabinet 1 (West Burton) on the Aysgarth exchange? It was originally due for spring this year. BT have been doing lots of roadworks throughout the year to lay the cable to the exchange. I'm not sure if they have finished this yet.

Any help with getting information on this would be great. Thanks.

Cabinet 1 is already up and live, if its not showing up for you then maybe your too far from the cabinet.

Example address on {NEASG}{P1}

PM me your postcode and door number and I will take a look.

Paul

In reply to a post by Midville:

Cab 4 is up and runner (opposite exchange) according to DSL checker with roadwork's for fibre this week. Hopefully light at the end of the tunnel however it is 500 m or more outside of the village. Better upload hopefully!

They are just installing fibre cable according to the roadworks site.

According to the BT Openreach its still down as being connected up and has the default place holder due by date of 4 months.

Once all connected up they run some tests I think and then a little while after it can go live.

Paul

Hi Paul,

Thanks.for the reply. My post was actually from last year so have already had it installed. Getting 70d and 20u, at least when BT are not throttling the line.

Look forward to the next step of fttp. Might have to wait at least another decade for that mind.

Thanks again

In reply to a post by toasties:

Hi Paul,

Thanks.for the reply. My post was actually from last year so have already had it installed. Getting 70d and 20u, at least when BT are not throttling the line.

Look forward to the next step of fttp. Might have to wait at least another decade for that mind.

Thanks again

Yeah, just checked, it was where Midville replied and for some reason a few other posts including yours also showed up as new, so I didn't bother to check the post date

Might have a long wait for FTTPod.

Paul

The copper side has been done (chatted to the guys 3-4 weeks ago), and the fibre ducting has started today. My line has moved from EO to connected at Cab 4 , yesterday I think. Looking good - just a shame it is still a longish run, shouldn't moan.

In reply to a post by Midville:

The copper side has been done (chatted to the guys 3-4 weeks ago), and the fibre ducting has started today. My line has moved from EO to connected at Cab 4 , yesterday I think. Looking good - just a shame it is still a longish run, shouldn't moan.

The copper might be connected up and they could be in the middle to installing the fibre, so the info from openreach was correct when it said it was still down as being connected up, which gave the default place holder due by date of 4 months.

As for chatting to them, all the ones I chatted to about our FTTP rollout when they was working on ours all said its all done and was confused why they was told to do the rollout, where as the head office says its not done yet.
So you cannot really go by what the engineers say, or maybe you can and the head office has no clue, who knows.

Paul

Thanks Paul, our exchange is listed as FTTC/P on the Open reach accepting orders pdf. Whatever that means? The digging and the BT activity re the fibre ducting has stopped at the exchange.The only frustrating issue for me is the fibre spine runs directly through the centre of the village but the cab is 600m outside - as it snakes towards Thornton Rust.

In reply to a post by Midville:

Thanks Paul, our exchange is listed as FTTC/P on the Open reach accepting orders pdf. Whatever that means?

That means that your exchange has been upgraded to support FTTC and FTTP and is accepting orders for the cabinets that are ready and areas that might have FTTP.

I have a feeling that due to all your area being done as a BDUK Project (North Yorkshire) everyone will be put on FTTC and only the very few may end up being put on FTTP.

In reply to a post by Midville:

The digging and the BT activity re the fibre ducting has stopped at the exchange.The only frustrating issue for me is the fibre spine runs directly through the centre of the village but the cab is 600m outside - as it snakes towards Thornton Rust.

So how far are you from that new cabinet?

Paul

I would say between 700-800m to the centre of the village (40 houses or so), the fibre spine runs up the middle and within 2 feet of our place. Unless there are plans for DP within the village it just seems like the placement is a little far, but then I guess the cost would increase. Unless there are plans for a FTTRN as that has happen the other side of Leyburn who knows.

In reply to a post by Midville:

I would say between 700-800m to the centre of the village (40 houses or so), the fibre spine runs up the middle and within 2 feet of our place. Unless there are plans for DP within the village it just seems like the placement is a little far, but then I guess the cost would increase. Unless there are plans for a FTTRN as that has happen the other side of Leyburn who knows.

Hmm, well you should still be offered FTTC at that distance, granted it wont be 80/20, but should be more than what you get now, well the upstream will.

Paul