I get a similar response. The uplift is 5.11 which I find surprising as there is about 5km of cable between my house as the cabinet. The exchange is another 1km further on.

The response shows that the exchange is being upgraded in June 2014 which I know is being done with BDUK funding.

So, can I assume from the reply that the cabinet will not get FTTC despite the exchange being upgraded with BDUK funding?

Thanks mate,

Curious about the uplift as its 14.58 as I currently get 7-8meg

Thanks Andrew for clarifying what the Probability figure means, and thanks BatBoy for posting!

I've just noticed the description of the 'Uplift' figure too; ours is 99.22, (PCP 102 here); however another cabinet due to be implemented not far away has an uplift of 409.02 (PCP 92 here) which doesn't seem to make sense if it's the multiplier of the current speed?

Both cabinets are 'Part of the 66% Commercial Plan' and state Huawei as the cabinet type, the other cabinet states Phase 10a and has an expected date of later this year (though I understand this was delayed and was originally planned to be implemented by now). Does anyone have any more detail on the phase dates though please? Our cabinet states Phase 13a (and Openreach have previously provided the same phase no by email) - but all of their announcements which seemed to end last spring stopped at mentioning Phase 11!

I've also recently looked at how many properties connect to our cabinet - it's around 375, all on a new-build (2008-2013) estate, all properties within about 400m of the cabinet. With all the surrounding estates already supplied with FTTC, providing the backhaul to the exchange presumably shouldn't be a great drama and power is obviously available too - I assume the cost per property passed would therefore be around £80 - does anyone have a view on how this rates on the scale of commercial attractiveness to Openreach?

There are two further cabinets in our locality which have not yet been upgraded also, about which I knew little before:
- 34 - states part of commercial 66% plan, but no vendor, phase or date listed!
- 43 - states not part of plan, but has a vendor, but no phase or date!
The majority of the footprint of these two cabinets are however in a Virgin Media cabled area so can access Virgin superfast broadband.

Cabinet 88 has just been FTTC enabled with BDUK funding.

And the following eight cabinets were already enabled by the commercial rollout:
- 35 - phase 6a
- 39 - phase 2
- 40 - phase 2
- 42 - phase 2
- 44 - phase 2
- 45 - phase 2
- 101 - phase 9b
- 104 - phase 9b

Many thanks

Edited by deleted (Tue 20-May-14 01:11:20)

VDSL2 will bring you no benefit if 5km of cable involved,

Whether the cab will get enabled, depends on where everyone else on that cabinet is located, Rare for a cabinet to be 5km away from every user.

But I was trying to ascertain whether or not the cabinet will not be upgraded, not whether this would improve the broadband service I get.

I don't think the website shows cabinet upgrades planned with BDUK funding.

I think the not part of commercial plan just means it is being done with government (BDUK) funding, it if is returning a vendor this means the PCP is already in place or planned to be so would assume it means FTTC will be available, hope so anyway..

In reply to a post by olicuk:

another cabinet due to be implemented not far away has an uplift of 409.02 (PCP 92 here) which doesn't seem to make sense if it's the multiplier of the current speed?

The multiplier of average speed in the postcode before, versus average speed in the postcode after.

I guess an average of 128Kbps increased to an average of 50Mbps would qualify.

Does anyone have any more detail on the phase dates though please?

The cabinet plans have always included phases - and as you noticed, the phase numbering matches up well with the public announcements.

Back at the start, deployment also tended to go in the same order as the phase numbering. However, once you get beyond phase 4 or 5, the phase number becomes almost irrelevant to the time of deployment: The project started moving exchanges & cabinets around "at a whim" (to us; they obviously had good reason internally).

I suspect that, as the rollout became more parallel, with more staff, it gave them some freedom.

it's around 375, all on a new-build (2008-2013) estate, all properties within about 400m of the cabinet.

does anyone have a view on how this rates on the scale of commercial attractiveness to Openreach?

On the face of it, the cabinet rates just fine.

The three biggest unknown factors are:
- Getting fibre there. Ducting to be cleared (if blocked) or installed (if full or unusable) can make it more expensive than the norm.
- Getting power there. A new supply usually costs around £1k, but the power companies charge you the full whack if they need something non-standard (such as a long supply connection, or they need to upgrade a transformer). For example, 3 cabinets in North Yorkshire got jeopardised because the power cost was £90k.
- Siting the cabinet. Above ground, there needs to be enough physical space for the cabinet within 100m. Below ground, there must be no services underneath the cabinet. I've also seen cabinets jeopardised because that combination could not be found.

There are also 2 problems that turn up in new-build areas:
- BT didn't know how big the cabinet was (or was going to get) at the time of planning, a fact that may continue to be ignored throughout the commercial rollout. At the most extreme, it ends up being ignored by BDUK because it ought to have been commercial, but is still ignored by BT. At best, the BDUK project takes time to identify these, and works with BT to make sure they get done (as seen by the Warwickshire project)

- The road hasn't yet been adopted by the local authority. In this case, BT have no right to install the cabinet, and the builder is not incentivised to let them (they just want the authority to take the road off their hands ASAP).

This checker shows 2 results for my post code.

13 ECI 96% 18.15 Phase 10a 06/04/2014 Part of the 66% Commercial Plan
22 ECI 3% 4.97 Phase 10a 30/09/2014 Part of the 66% Commercial Plan

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Cab 13 is 200m away. Cab 22 is actually 1.7 miles away as the crow flys. I'm on cab 13 as I have FTTC. But just wondered if this was an Openreach database anomaly or is some poor sod on my street actually connected to Cab 22?

What I find interesting is that it seems to know what sort of cabinet is going to be provided. It lists my cabinet as Huawei even through no work has yet started to install it (other than replacement doors on the existing cabinet). They are still listing that particular exchange with an availability date of June which I suspect is rather unlikely as no work has started at any of the cabinets to install fibre twins yet (well as of the weekend when I last checked).

The uplift numbers should also be taken with a pinch of salt. They give 4.09 for a property that already has FTTC that used to get a solid full 8Mbps and now gets significantly more than 32Mbps.

What is uplift mean? Does it mean the higher the number the better upload speed? as I can see mine is uplift of 10.51?