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I have been pursuing why I cannot use FTTC despite my cabinet having a newish fibre cabinet next to it.......it seems I am to far away from it!! I got this reply from Better Broadband for Norfolk
FTTC is available to properties that are within approx 1.5 km of the cabinet and therefore have access to a line speed of at least 15 Mbps. This is why your property does not show an FTTC option, as it is too far away from the cabinet.
Surely the point of the goverment schemes is to improve access particuarly for those who are FURTHEST from there exchange!! So shouldnt it be that those furthest from a cabinet are connected first ??
I am 2kms from my cabinet  and the BT checker doesnt show FTTC available for me
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When a target is not 100% some not getting the service is to be expected. That is the reality
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I am also in Norfolk and I agree that those who are the furthest from the exchange and who therefore get the slowest speeds should get the most help from the upgrade. I am lucky to get 4Mbps so when I hear of people able to get 20+ and they then get faster speeds it does somewhat annoy me. Dont get me started on the "better broadband for norfolk" site. how can a site supposedly to inform the public in norfolk go for weeks at a time without mentioning any "news of progress"
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i think you will find if you READ the question it was about the relative priority of near vs far users.
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Surely the point of the goverment schemes is to improve access particuarly for those who are FURTHEST from there exchange!! So shouldnt it be that those furthest from a cabinet are connected first ?? No, as furthest from the exchange doesn't imply furthest from the cabinet.
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I know just trying to say what many do not realise that unless a target is 100% there will always be those who miss out.
This method of roll out was set by political targets talked of in 2009 and cemented in 2011
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project is around maximum number of people Connected for X amount of money -- i assume there were enough people closer to the cab than you that made it worth enabling by NCC
Edited by deleted (Sun 07-Dec-14 18:45:52)
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thanks for your replies all  so instead of getting frustrated, I should vote with my bricks and morter!! (move nearer the exchange).
Has anybody noticed SIN498 http://www.sinet.bt.com/sinet/SINs/pdf/498v6p0_C.pdf that talks about an ADSL2 option for FTTC ?
It wasnt till after I wrote the post I realised FTTC seems only to be VDSL2 so the crosstalk problems are probably why BT seem to have imposed the 1.5kms limit, maybe ADSL2 FTTC is the way to go for long haul ?
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Has anybody noticed SIN498 http://www.sinet.bt.com/sinet/SINs/pdf/498v6p0_C.pdf that talks about an ADSL2 option for FTTC ? It's ADSL2plus actually, which is upto 24Mbps, rather than 12Mbps for ADSL2. Interesting development nonetheless.
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There is no 1.5km limit as such.
BT Consumer Infinity may not offer you a service if estimate is below 15 Mbps, but other providers will, i.e. that is the retailers choice. You can order a 'fibre based broadband service that is NOT called Infinity' from BT consumer, it helps to keep averages up for advertising - blame ASA for that one.
Yes we covered the ADSL2+ from cabinet when SINET published, but no confirmed timelines from Openreach, but it could help to solve USC issues with the need to spend relatively little money.
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Bingo
And in some counties am seeing clusters of EO a long way from an exchange getting the prep work for even FTTP.
It all depends on the locality and when people are missed out they will always be upset, but then Norfolk did set out with a low goal of 80% superfast anyway.
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Have enquired with Wispanet as they have been advertising in our area...
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Has anybody noticed SIN498 http://www.sinet.bt.com/sinet/SINs/pdf/498v6p0_C.pdf that talks about an ADSL2 option for FTTC ? It's ADSL2plus actually, which is upto 24Mbps, rather than 12Mbps for ADSL2. Interesting development nonetheless.
It is ADSL2plus, which can indeed carry 24Mbps for those close to the DSLAM.
However, the way BT appear to be intending to use "GEA over ADSL2+" from the cabinet, is that they are targetting properties in the 2km-3km distance (from the cabinet), and that they also look to be limiting the downstream speed to 12Mbps.
Those aren't known facts - but the tests visible in SIN 498 specify a maximum profile of 12Mbps, and set the test equipment behaviour to mimic lines of 2km - 3km.
If it is anything like the observed behaviour in 21CN, ADSL2 actually achieves the best speed for the highest range, so might prove to be best for the people furthest out.
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Did you use the BT Infinity checker, or the more generic BT Wholesale one?
As already mentioned, the products branded "BT Infinity" are limited by BT Retail to 15Mbps, rather than a distance. Most other ISPs don't employ a limit - and the limit is never a specific distance, anyway. For example, I've seen someone post on the Plusnet forums that they got service (at 2Mbps) on a line 4.2km from the cabinet.
You might find the wholesale one offers service:
http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/
with phone number
or
http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/ADSLChecker.Addres...
with address
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Did you use the BT Infinity checker, or the more generic BT Wholesale one?
I used the wholesale one, no joy in either BUT ok at the other end (nearer the cabinet) of our very long village road.
Interesting to read what people are saying about maybe not all ISP's use a specific distance so I will try asking a few, I am about 2kms from the cabinet so someone may wish to play
I am according to attinuation 4.5kms from the exchange and now get reliable synch of 3827kbps, not bad but as my old school reports used to say "could do better"!!
Many thanks for all comments
Edited by deleted (Sun 07-Dec-14 19:55:46)
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I cannot find them do you have a link please ?
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thanks for your replies all so instead of getting frustrated, I should vote with my bricks and morter!! (move nearer the exchange).
It's the cabinet you need to move nearer to for this technology - you could move nearer to the exchange but end up being further from the enabled cabinet. With ADSL it is important how far you are from the exchange, with VDSL/FTTC it is important how far you are from the enabled cabinet.
It does mean that some people who were a large distance from the exchange and couldn't get ADSL will get excellent speeds on VDSL because they are close to the cabinet. But, conversely, people who were relatively close to the exchange for ADSL may be out of luck with VDSL due to distance to cabinet as VDSL slows down very quickly over distance.
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Sorry - told you wrong name!
These guys: http://www.itswisp.co.uk/
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