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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 13-Dec-14 11:12:09
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Another Christmas comes and goes...


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Its two years now since my exchange was fibre-enabled. But despite being reasonably near the centre of my small town, there is still no sign of my cabinet being upgraded. When it was possible to contact Openreach by email, they told me all sorts of stuff including various dates, but so far nothing. Our BDUK project also doesn't seem interested since I'm not rural (and they seem to think my cabinet is part of the commercial rollout - despite the fact this seems to have ended). Oh well, maybe fibre will be my present for the end of next year?

Merry Christmas everyone!
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(deleted) Sat 13-Dec-14 12:18:05
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Care to give a postcode or exchange name?
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(deleted) Sat 13-Dec-14 12:37:49
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
Care to give a postcode or exchange name?


Hi BatBoy,
Its cabinet 42 on the Tewkesbury (SSTXY) exchange.
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 13-Dec-14 13:05:40
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The BDUK project is doing some work on that exchange, so they do know about it, but no sign of cabinet 42 being the lucky one.

Current target is 90% with access to fibre based, so you might be in the 10% that miss out, but a longer term goal of 24 Mbps or faster to all who want it by 2018 is part of the Herefordshire and Gloucestershire project.

Generally it is cabinets that cover more premises that are getting done, and if lots of those in other parts of the county you might be missed out, and some areas have seen concerted campaigns to do more of the rural areas first.

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(deleted) Sun 14-Dec-14 09:04:32
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Thanks for the info.
I think my cabinet might be quite small. I also realise that being reasonably close to the exchange means I get a pretty good ADSL speed. So I can understand why we've been passed by. Still rather frustrating though.
Happy Christmas.
Standard User HughA
(newbie) Sun 14-Dec-14 09:13:26
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It's probably down to BT considering it uneconomical to provide. Either the engineering costs are too high or the cabinet doesn't support enough customers to be able to make a profit! I doubt ADSL speed has anything to do with it, I'm in a similar position to you except for having only 3Mbps and BT say my cabinet is not economically viable, as do BDUK!
I share your frustration.
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(deleted) Sun 14-Dec-14 09:32:57
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I'm in the same position.
In my case I think the reason is that the house population density near to the cabinet is quite small, while that further away is larger.
So if it was upgraded (serves around 200 houses) the number of people able to actually get a true superfast service due to their distance from the cab' would be rather lower than average.
So BDUK concentrate their resources on more favourable cabinets to upgrade.

There are no logistical problems to an upgrade as power is available from an electric pole nearby and best of all, fibre to other cabs which are being enabled actually runs past this cab en-route to them!
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(deleted) Sun 14-Dec-14 09:37:27
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The openreach where and when site says that your cabinet is under review, so you can't order fibre http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/
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(deleted) Sun 14-Dec-14 12:36:24
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
The openreach where and when site says that your cabinet is under review, so you can't order fibre http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/

How did you find that? When I look I get the blue question mark that says :
Superfast Fibre is in your area but we can�t tell by your postcode if you can get it right now.
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(deleted) Sun 14-Dec-14 12:45:08
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I used a postcode that is served by the cabinet you said.
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(deleted) Sun 14-Dec-14 13:13:41
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How odd? I never thought to try a different postcode on the same cabinet. I wonder why I get a different result using my postcode?
Anyway, thanks for that. Under Review at least sounds a bit more promising. Maybe next Christmas? smile
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(staff) Sun 14-Dec-14 13:59:30
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Distance to the cabinet is the usual reason

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Standard User kebabselector
(regular) Mon 15-Dec-14 11:57:14
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In reply to a post by MrFied:
Under Review at least sounds a bit more promising. Maybe next Christmas? smile


I wouldn't get too excited - according to the when and where site...

'We�ve already rolled out fibre broadband to more than two-thirds of the UK and are busy addressing the final third with the help of our public sector partners'

Not sure where the public sector partners (ie Councils) are going to get the money from. My cab funding gap is £16k + Vat and there are 4 similar small cabinets not connected in an area where everyone else has fibre. Its all residential so no hope of businesses helping out. Maybe it's time to remind all local Councillors and the MP there are elections coming up soon!

We can get Virgin, but I much prefer to have competition in the area.

Current on Zen, getting around 5mb down - .8mb up
Exchange is Fibre enabled, street cab not economically viable to upgrade.

Edited by kebabselector (Mon 15-Dec-14 13:06:34)

Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Mon 15-Dec-14 12:53:06
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I understand the reasons why you would want to have FTTC but if there is already Virgin Cable available I would not say it is a priority area. Many people would love to have that option.
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(deleted) Mon 15-Dec-14 13:17:11
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...me included!!
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 15-Dec-14 13:53:57
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The BDUK can't fund cabs in areas that already have Virgin, it is against the rules as there is already commercial provision. Or should I start having a go at my council that I only have BT available and they should pay for Virgin to cover the area as well?
Standard User kebabselector
(regular) Mon 15-Dec-14 14:24:46
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BDUK was never an option in Birmingham - in fact Virgin and BT both took Birmingham City council to court as they wanted to implement their own fibre connection.

Most of Birmingham have both Virgin and Openreach Fibre, just the small cabs the GPO installed 50 years ago are deemed uneconomically viable to upgrade (despite 200 properties being potentially connected) - so we're stuck in a uncompetitive market with a monopolistic fibre provider.

On the plus side, my Zen connection seems to have got better since Openreach broke then fixed the exchange

Current on Zen, getting around 5mb down - .8mb up
Exchange is Fibre enabled, street cab not economically viable to upgrade.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 16-Dec-14 08:56:20
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So if you already know that what exactly could the local councillors do to change your mind over voting in elections? Your previous post suggested you thought they weren't doing enough to keep your vote but as they can't fund your cabinet it is not a political issue but a business issue with BT.
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(deleted) Tue 16-Dec-14 11:50:38
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In reply to a post by kebabselector:
We can get Virgin, but I much prefer to have competition in the area.

While I understand the desire to have more options, I'm one of those wishing I could get Virgin, because despite living opposite the central exchange in town, our date has shifted from the end of the year to:

"This cabinet is under review. We'll explore fibre broadband solutions & will update once done.."

The bright side for us is that Hyperoptic are coming to Birmingham, and I've got a wayleave agreement they're very interested in getting signed for my building. Of course, figuring out someone who can/will sign it at the moment is proving a little harder, ah the joys of management companies going bust..
Standard User kebabselector
(regular) Fri 19-Dec-14 13:28:07
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Things might be looking up - just tired the openreach when and where site and got:

Status: Coming soon

Your area will be enabled within the next six months and we'll provide more details nearer the time. At the moment you can't order Superfast Fibre.

Previously it was UR.

Hoping it's not just a glitch!

Current on Zen, getting around 5mb down - .8mb up
Exchange is Fibre enabled, street cab not economically viable to upgrade.
Standard User kebabselector
(regular) Fri 19-Dec-14 14:32:02
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Lol, it's back to Under Review - must have been a glitch

Current on Zen, getting around 5mb down - .8mb up
Exchange is Fibre enabled, FTTC Coming soon (apparently)
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(deleted) Fri 19-Dec-14 20:17:31
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the fact you had a gap fund for it could make it under review -- (as it not going to done by Commericual and cant be done under BDUk as it will not be white
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