fritz 7490 on sky fiber

Hi im new here but have been on the skyuser site for a wile but basicly i was hoping that some one might know more about the fritz box 7490 but any of the new range would still help i have tryed telnet to the unit but am unable to locate or work out what dhcp client they use for wan connections as with sky you need to send a dhcp request with option 60,61 with the sky password and user login inclosed to get a valid ip over pppoe from there dhcp server.
Most routers i have used use dchpcd and can then be modified to use sky but the fritz dose not respond to these, i have tryed commands for dhcpcd, pump, dhclient all with no luck i did not know if the fritz config file can be edited to include these, as it has dhcp client id in there but not sure how that file works.
i am going to try and add a link to txt output from telnet

frits telnet rip wile changing setting for dsl

I confess I know nothing about Sky as a broadband provider, however have you set the VLAN to 101?

This is all I know that is needed for BT fibre services with the Fritzbox.

As I say, can't speak for Sky, especially if it's their LLU kit.

Hi thanks for the reply
yes the vlan is still 101 but sky have/use a system on there fiber they call mer but is actually just a request to there dhcp server with option 60 and 61. 61 is the main one Client-identifier witch is basicly "[email protected]|password" and thats it, it is just a pppoe connection after that no password or user required but there dhcp will not allocate an ip address unless it recives dhcp request including the option 61 with skys user and password some sky users also include option 60 witch is basicly "sky sr102 v6.6.6.6" just in case they check it at a later date and see "my much better router" and that the mac is cloned from the sky hub

Most routers that sky users swap with are tomarto flash able and the script is put in the additional setting area, but asus have started putting a sky compatible profile in that takes the user and password as if it was pppoa but they send it as above, i would have loved those boxes but the wireless ac and the pbx side of the fritz box sold me i looked at cheep pbx but that and an ac router would have cost the same if mor.
i have 6months of sky fiber left but want to get rid of the double nat and slow ping of having two boxes running eg sky as gateway then fritz pluged in as cable router using one of its gigabit ports up but looking to move to a less anal provider then.
just that sky are charging peanuts for there fiber to me and ee have stoped doing £10 off for existing customers witch would have worked out only £2 more expensive than sky charge me only talk talk(no thanks) and plusnet getting any were close on costs for 40mb unlimited service my adsl is only 2mb so got to be fiber

Wow, am I glad I'm not with Sky!

The only information I could find that could be of any help is here:
http://misterjaytee.com/2009/09/16/fritzbox-and-sky-...

It involves spoofing the MAC, and forcing PPPoA. Whether this somehow bypasses the extra DHCP options I don't know, but as you seems to already have the FritzBox, it can't hurt to try it.

Best advice though, run for the hills! If cost is an issue, the personally I'd go to PlusNet.

Thanks for the reply i wish skys fiber service was as easy as there adsl service as i heard that most broadband customers adsl has been able to use pppoa for some time now witch us great as you calculate or wire shark your username and password and away you go but unfortunately fiber/vdsl dose not use pppoe paswords or users login

I dono if any one knows the config file well but im not sure if i can edit this part in some way?

dhcp_auth_mode = auth_none;
dhcp_requests_with_client_id = yes;
dhcp_ignore_options_in_renewing = no;
is_erouter = no;

The obvious thing to try, to my mind, is to email AVM and ask them for a way to do it.

The key may well be in the dhcp_auth_mode setting, if this is even implemented in the code, rather than an unused option.

Thanks for the reply Unfortunately avm did not want too help "as sky can change these settings at any time" but have had the same settings for a good fuw years now
witch is great that asus now have a sky profile on the latest stock firmware so really there just draging there heels
the best i got was that you can change the firmware to do that but we carnt tell you how

That doesn't sound like the AVM I've heard about

Maybe point them to this thread. I won't be buying another if that's their attitude.

Merry Christmas!

Various members of the Skyuser forum have approached AVM regarding Sky compatibility with Fritzbox routers and got pretty much the same response.

It took Billion several months to reverse engineer Sky's variant of 1483MER and develop firmware for their 7800 and 8200 series routers that worked with Sky fibre and now all their new routers work with Sky out of the box.

My understanding, from reading up on the issue, is that Option 60 and 61 are an integral part of the DHCP RFC, so it really shouldn't be too much trouble to include them in the configuration settings.

It's not straying into bespoke areas, that a manufacturer would rightly be wary of.

That said, another reason I'll avoid all the Sky broadband offers that I receive in the post!

Thanks for the replys looking at getting a asus dsl-ac68u instead then maby getting a very old fritz box for phone stuff unfortnatly im out of my 28 day returns going to have to sell it on
but trying to find witch dhcp client the fritz uses but no luck i have taken a copy of ps out put if any one can point me in the right direction

BusyBox v1.20.2 (2014-09-26 13:25:19 CEST) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

ermittle die aktuelle TTY
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2 root 0 SW [kthreadd]
3 root 0 SW [migration/0]
4 root 0 SW [ksoftirqd/0]
5 root 0 SW [watchdog/0]
6 root 0 SW [migration/1]
7 root 0 SW [ksoftirqd/1]
8 root 0 SW [watchdog/1]
9 root 0 SW [yield_w/0]
10 root 0 SW [yield_w/1]
11 root 0 SW [yield_w/0]
12 root 0 SW [yield_w/1]
13 root 0 SW [events/0]
14 root 0 SW [events/1]
15 root 0 SW [khelper]
18 root 0 SW [async/mgr]
34 root 0 SW [sync_supers]
35 root 0 SW [bdi-default]
37 root 0 SW [kblockd/0]
38 root 0 SW [kblockd/1]
58 root 0 SW [kswapd0]
59 root 0 SWN [ksmd]
60 root 0 SW [aio/0]
61 root 0 SW [aio/1]
75 root 0 SW [pm_info]
82 root 0 SWN [avm_debugd]
108 root 0 SW [mtdblockd]
117 root 0 DW [ifx_ssc]
128 root 0 SW [l2tp]
132 root 0 SW [tffsd]
133 root 0 SW [avmnet_workqueu]
134 root 0 SW [PhyWaspHeartbea]
140 root 0 SW [avmnet_timer]
142 root 0 SW< [loop0]
179 root 0 SW [yaffs-bg-1]
362 root 0 SW [cleanup_timer_f]
438 root 0 SW [yaffs-bg-1]
453 root 0 SW [capi_pipew/0]
454 root 0 SW [capi_pipew/1]
455 root 0 SW [capi_schedw/0]
456 root 0 SW [capi_schedw/1]
457 root 0 SW [pcmlink_ctrl]
460 root 0 SW [capitransp]
463 root 0 SW< [avm_dect_thread]
543 root 1308 S tail -f /nohup.out
544 root 1300 S < /sbin/udevd --daemon
559 root 0 SW [khubd]
761 root 2608 S /bin/configd
862 root 4136 S dsl_monitor -d
1003 root 2840 S avmipcd
1007 root 3356 S l2tpv3d
1013 root 16216 S ctlmgr
1016 root 9328 S upnpd
1034 root 3536 S upnpdevd
1046 root 4776 S wland -B
1073 root 0 SW [wlan_com_tx_thr]
1106 root 6412 S pbd
1123 root 6304 S telefon a127.0.0.1
1142 root 1312 S /usr/sbin/inetd
1170 root 1300 S < /sbin/udevd --daemon
1178 root 1300 S < /sbin/udevd --daemon
1183 root 1516 S hostapd -g /var/run/hostapd/global
1185 root 8904 S /usr/bin/aha
1187 root 0 SW [tgt_alive_poll_]
1201 root 1180 S /bin/run_clock -c /dev/tffs -d
1208 root 1312 S init
1212 root 1524 S wpa_supplicant -g /var/run/wpa_supplicant/global -D athr
1326 root 3660 S usermand
1329 root 3404 S contfiltd
1496 root 2704 S /sbin/nmbd
1645 root 6216 S < voipd
2002 root 5336 S dect_manager
2979 root 4588 S dsld -i -n
4582 root 4212 S multid
4623 root 1460 S /sbin/chronyd -n -f /var/tmp/chrony.conf
4694 root 1308 S telnetd -l /sbin/ar7login
4741 root 1328 S -sh
4783 root 1308 R ps
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