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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 01-Mar-15 16:00:38
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FTTC Available but no one know anything about it?


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I've searched a few exchange sites and they all say similar.

Superfast Fibre is in your area but we can't tell by your postcode/number if you can get it right now. Please contact your communications provider, who can check using your phone number.

If I phone BT who is my provider, Nope nothing available, It has been like this for a year or more now, anyone any ideas?
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 01-Mar-15 16:19:21
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your exchange and cabinet number will help to progress your problem!

Also:

https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html

what does that say ?

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(deleted) Sun 01-Mar-15 16:48:08
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(deleted) Sun 01-Mar-15 17:05:05
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BT45 6GB
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(deleted) Sun 01-Mar-15 19:01:30
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BT's Broadband Availability Checker suggests that most if not all lines in Ronan Manor are Exchange Only lines so FTTC isn't available. BT needs to carry out a network rearrangement and install a PCP (cabinet) before the lines can be upgraded to FTTC. Alternatively you may be lucky and get an FTTP connection.
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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 13:30:39
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There don't seem to be any cabs connected to your home. You seem to be on an EO lines. There doesent seem to be any FTTP planned, so sorry
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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 17:17:23
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Right I took this to my MP who in turn passed it on to the Senior Wholesale Services Manager ( BT Ireland) who got in touch today.

You are right nothing is being done and damn all being planned and here is his explanation why.

In my village there is 3 roads, they put cabinets about half a mile out each of these roads giving them fibre at 16mb+, they did this because they could not get speeds over 2mb, they decided that because we are a small village and all close to the exchange we don't need fibre, yep in theory we get 7mb however we are so congested we only get 1, this doesn't matter, all they are taking into account is distance from telephone exchanges no congestion.
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(staff) Mon 02-Mar-15 17:48:40
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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6861-17m-to-impro...

More money for faster speeds and pay attention to the figures for difference between fibre based and superfast availability.

Probably just the case that there was other areas where by spending the same amount of money they were able to boost the speeds of more people. Or put another with a limited amount of money to spend you have to decide where to spend it and who to miss out.

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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 17:55:06
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So I fall into the 6.3% with no access to an affordable fibre based solution at this time
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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 17:58:38
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There are far more than 6.3% currently without access to a fibre connection in the rest of the UK including London and some of the cities.
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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 18:33:50
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Have you any idea where the congestion issue is with your current ADSL service? If that is resolved or you can work round it by changing ISP, you might be able to get significantly better speeds. It wouldn't be fibre, but there's a dramatic usability difference between 1Mbit/s and 5Mbit/s.
Standard User PaulKirby
(committed) Mon 02-Mar-15 18:59:12
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In reply to a post by MCM:
There are far more than 6.3% currently without access to a fibre connection in the rest of the UK including London and some of the cities.
Yep me tongue
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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 19:08:51
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I came from EE in December, on EE the worst speed I got was 4mb, Its something to do with BT, at peak your down to 1mb which is dire, I live 300 meters from the exchange according to the BT Openreach guy I spoke to today so I should be booming.
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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 20:07:51
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Have u checked to see if you are part of BDUK. I'm not sure if it is in Ireland. Are you in Northern Ireland?
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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 20:30:46
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In reply to a post by falko89:
I came from EE in December, on EE the worst speed I got was 4mb, Its something to do with BT, at peak your down to 1mb which is dire, I live 300 meters from the exchange according to the BT Openreach guy I spoke to today so I should be booming.

It is probably worth your while pursuing BT Retail over the congestion. Most likely, this is on the BT Wholesale network, so will affect all ISPs using BT Wholesale, though it might be specific to the BT Retail service.


Unfortunately, if the information on SamKnows is correct (sadly, it's not always up to date), the Ballyronan exchange has no LLU providers and no 21CN WBC service. If this is accurate, the only ADSL services available to you are over the old 20CN BT Wholesale network, which can be rather congested.

You might find things improving as people who can get FTTC move to FTTC based services, though there is no guarantee.
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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 20:31:28
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Yep in Northern Ireland, Our exchange isn't included in that programme. Our exchange covered quite a distance, it served the mother in law some 2 miles away. She was only getting 2mb speed due to her distance from our exchange, so what this program did was stick cabinets all around the outskirts of our village giving them fibre but ignoring us and what worse is no plans to upgrade us at all., They figure because we are so close to the exchange (200-300 metres) we don't need it.
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(deleted) Mon 02-Mar-15 20:35:51
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In reply to a post by FredTheB:
Have u checked to see if you are part of BDUK. I'm not sure if it is in Ireland. Are you in Northern Ireland?

The state aid intervention is not under the BDUK banner in Northern Ireland - it's a devolved matter handled by the Northern Ireland Department of Enterprise, Trade and Investment. BDUK contributes some money towards the Northern Ireland project.


It sounds like the state aid intervention in this area was the FTTC cabinets with the associated network reorganisation on the three roads heading out of the village. This pushed those lines over the 2Mbit/s threshold.

Unfortunately the original poster has an exchange only line relatively close to the exchange. With the shorter lines outside the FTTC footprint likely having reasonable ADSL speeds, it sounds like it was felt to be a poor use of available funds to rearrange these lines onto a cabinet near the exchange and provide FTTC.

I don't believe the state aid intervention takes backhaul congestion into account. Unfortunately, the original poster appears to be in an area where the only DSL available to those outside the FTTC footprint is BT Wholesale 20CN DSL Max.
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(staff) Mon 02-Mar-15 22:09:25
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The 6.3% refers to NI specifically not the UK as a whole. You may have realised that but worth ensuring

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(deleted) Tue 03-Mar-15 01:03:28
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I do appreciate that but felt that the OP needed reminding that a greater proportion of the rest of the UK don't have access to FTTC/FTTP or cable and that NI was fortunate in the figure being "only" 6.3%.
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(deleted) Fri 06-Mar-15 17:27:01
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Today I received this email.

There is some activity planned to improve broadband services within the BT45 6 area by end of March see http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/information-and-ser...

To date, I don't yet have a list of all premises that will benefit from this work or what technology will be deployed but I can assure you once the work is completed we will mail everyone that can benefit to advise them that improved services are now available.
However, it is important to note that even when improvement work is complete, there is no guarantee that everyone will access basic or faster broadband services.

So not sure what to make of that, BT Wholesale said nothing planned yet this government body say different.
Standard User hoopla
(member) Fri 06-Mar-15 19:39:06
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In reply to a post by falko89:
... in theory we get 7mb however we are so congested we only get 1

That's ridiculous. What is your sync speed?

You ought to be seeing 80% of sync in actual usable speed, unless you chose the cheapest ISP you could possibly find, in which case, more fool you!
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(deleted) Fri 06-Mar-15 19:44:21
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BT Wholesale don't install broadband, that is the role of BT Openreach who, in Northern Ireland will be working in conjunction with the NI Govt. It is quite possible if not probable that BT Wholesale have no knowledge of what is planned until it is near completion and ready for service.
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(deleted) Fri 06-Mar-15 19:48:10
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7mb or so, and it stays at that.
Standard User simon194
(experienced) Sat 07-Mar-15 00:50:24
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My parents are on a Market 1 exchange which until recently was upgraded to 21CN. Before that, on 20CN, even though their line synced at 7.6 Mbps they very rarely got more than 2 Mbps. Once the exchange was upgraded and they switched to ASDL2+ the sync speed went up to just under 20 Mbps and get around 16 Mbps download.

They are with BT.
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