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Standard User Pgre
(experienced) Sun 12-Apr-15 12:42:36
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FOD - will it return?


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Hi.. Due to move to new build in Bedford.
I'm still amazed that very few big home builders provison good broadband.
(There is one who despite being in a more rural area worked with VM to get every home a super fast option. ).

However I'm likely on the end of a long fttc line. So may get 25-30.
Now I know many are likely worse off but im used to 150Mb VM or 80Mb Fttc connections.
Work from home (as dos the other half) so band width very important including upload speeds.

Anyway.. That said I am wondering if FOD will ever make a return.
I have no problem paying a reasonable amount for a fibre.... But FOD from what I read has been put on hold for now.

(Budget wise £200 a month for the 330 service whilst expensive in my view would possibly be affordable... Would partly be ofset against tax)


Does anyone know if FOD will make a return or any other suggestions.

Regards PGre
Standard User witchunt
(member) Sun 12-Apr-15 13:08:57
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Personal opinion- probably not, gfast probably makes a more appealing business case.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 12-Apr-15 13:20:05
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On a long FTTC line, although FTTPoD does not come from the cabinet it does come from an aggregation point that is probably not far from it.

The installation costs are likely to be huge. See this page. Cost to the CP, excluding Vat, a minimum of £1100 for within 200 metres of the aggregation point, to £5125 @ 1000-1499 metres. And more for further. Even that is subject to survey and may be ruled out as impracticable by Openreach.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 12-Apr-15 13:47:53
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If you need more two fttc lines might be better value

Split things like iptv onto one and work on other

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Standard User kasg
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 12-Apr-15 17:27:36
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In reply to a post by Pgre:
Does anyone know if FOD will make a return or any other suggestions.

The last article I read said it had been suspended until 30th April.

Kevin

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 12-Apr-15 18:47:41
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which new build in Bedford as a number dont have currently superfast broadband to do -- though some will have soon
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 12-Apr-15 19:10:56
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It will return very soon and you will be hearing more about it in due course.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 12-Apr-15 19:27:31
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In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:
It will return very soon and you will be hearing more about it in due course.


In the g.fast announcement Openreach clearly stated they will offer a "premium FTTP option".
Standard User Pgre
(experienced) Sun 12-Apr-15 23:39:49
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Hi, thanks for replys.

It's in Kempston - woodlands David wilsons build - but it's on Cab 7 so no Ft tp as far as I can tell.

Regards PGre
Standard User Pgre
(experienced) Sun 12-Apr-15 23:44:07
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I was looking into this and may end up down this route...
Doesn't help much with uploads though unless it's bonded by isp though since traffic would take one route. I do photography'/video work so requires GB uploads.

Regards PGre
Standard User Pgre
(experienced) Mon 13-Apr-15 00:00:26
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Understood... There is a closer fiber cab so may only be 400m or so, although it would of course depend on routing options but I would pay circa £1500 to get an FTTP connection.

Sure it's expensive ... But I can imagine getting really frustrated getting circa 20% of the speeds I get today. Looking into 4G solutions also.. But would prefer the fixed line option.

Regards PGre
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 13-Apr-15 00:10:06
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Are you sure the nearer one is FTTC, not Virgin Media? It's odd you should be on a more distant PCP.

Even at 400m £1500 doesn't look sufficient. Don't forget the distance-related prices need the fixed charge of £750 added.

If you can reclaim the Vat then there is only the ISP's profit margin to add otherwise. Else of course all +20%.

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Edited by RobertoS (Mon 13-Apr-15 00:11:17)

Standard User Pgre
(experienced) Mon 13-Apr-15 15:09:16
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There are 3 FTTC Cabs in the local area. Cab 7 / 5 and 11

This estate is served by Cab 7
I will be right on a Boundary of Kempston and Cab 5 / 11 whilst closer as the Crow flies I am guessing due to history have served other areas.. The estate is in an infill site although I am surprised BT didn't put in a new PCP as there are a good few hundred homes on the site... must have still been spare capacity on the old one I suppose.

No VM on the new estate.. which is a shame.

I guess I am just hoping for an aggregation node a little closer..
I know the Fibre routing for Can 11 goes past the Estate (From speaking to local Engineer one day) about 200m away but no idea where the node is, didn't get chance to ask at the time... but.. I'll have to wait and see how good/bad it is when I move in. As its for business use offsetting against tax could still make it feasible.. but would be good to see what OR are planning... (or not.)

Regards PGre
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 13-Apr-15 15:43:09
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Believe that this premium option will be different to FoD, since by the time g.fast makes it to nodes rather than cabinets a lot more of the FTTH infrastructure is already in place

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 13-Apr-15 16:47:36
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AIUI then you stand a chance of a closer aggregation point smile.

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