Self install FTTP?

Hello

No doubt this question has been asked countless times, so apologies, I've been defeated by the Search function!

Would it be possible for me to run my own fibre from either the local exchange, or local cabinet, to mine and my neighbours premises?

Let's assume the physical installation of cables isn't a problem, but would BT be happy to accommodate the connection into their network?

Presumably this has been done before so any reference sites would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Sam

If you had all the appropriate accreditation, insurance etc i.e. set yourself up as an ISP and be willing to pay leased line backhaul type costs then yes possible.

Thanks for the quick response.

That route may be viable if there were more of us (depending on back haul & lease costs) but I was hoping for a simpler solution, eg my consortium runs the fibre to cabinet/ exchange from our premises, BT connect us into their network based on subscription to their services.

In effect, we would just be extending BTs network for them..

I would be interested in an official answer to this but hell would freeze over before you can find someone to give you a straight answer from OpenReach.

Having a similar problem and a 12 tonne tracked excavator I have yet to be able to get any sense out of Openreach who have the only local infrastructure. B4RN did it without using any Openreach infrastructure I believe.

The message from Openreach is "wait and we might or might not provide you with something at some point in the future, now go away until then".

......and within Mr Saffron's list under 'accreditation' you need OFCOM granted code powers under the 2003 telecommunications act to even be allowed to dig/install cables etc under public roads/pavements.

Custom FTTP builds apart from in areas that are part of the FTTP on Demand availability are not on the Openreach radar currently - something to do with lots of contracts they are busy already fulfilling

Firms like Gigaclear will entertain you, if you can get 200-300 premises in an area with lots of soft dig and close to some existing commercial backhaul.

Take a look at the price of Ethernet services to your postcode from providers like AAISP if high speeds to just yourself is what is wanted

ruraln debugging you not looked hard enougfh or asked the right people-- see openreach FAQ's Rural Broiadband not on a plan

I suspect your main problem would be the finances.

Or local Gigaclear network connects to a manhole with Vodafone written on the cover. I suspect that several fibres are used but I don't actually know. Gigaclear started the installation when about 200 out of 600 premises had signed up.

Gigaclear employed two contractors. Wingnut who dug hoes in the road and laid the cables, and Boxcom who completed the joints, installed and I think now manage the equipment in the cabinets. Terminating (joining) fibres is a slow process. It took two men all week to terminate the lines on my local cabinet. I would guess about 200 lines. Each fibre in the cable in the road is connected to a lead with a plug on the end of it. The plug then fits into the cabinet hardware.

Not necessarily true that code powers would be required. Either that or I have been involved in installing private fibre illegally .

I believe you would only need code powers as a telecommunications provider (i.e. selling to others) which in this context would not be the case. That said the other difficulties mentioned would make such an adventure exceedingly difficult.

Del

You certainly can't dig up public roads and pavements at will .

Code powers reduces amount of planning permission needed, so possible without code powes but more expensive in terms of time and lawyers

I assume you mean http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/rural-broadband...

I suggest a little more humility in your answer when it applies to a community of 2 households. In Wales you can't get a straight answer out of OpenReach or Edwina Heart's office as to when FTT[CP] might become available and what is going to be required to get it. Of course if you could elighten us as to who the right people are, they are not mentioned on that link.

We fail the "Capable of generating the necessary funds." test for the link above to be relevant.

2 is really difficuly if there were a few moe that would be feasible - threre is a contact email address -- but it is around private funding

As I said before for JUST two people Ethernet service is way to go

Typical Ethernet monthly costs appear to be around £1000 per month, compared to £50 p.m. for FTTP. Since both would basically involve laying fibre to the premises, it's easy to work out why no-one is making private FTTP an easy option. Openreach, for example, will only do this on signing of an incredibly restrictive contract. It would be interesting to compare the all inclusive installation cost quotes for the two options. I have spoken to Openreach about the private fibre option, but the closed nature of the contract rules it out here (i.e. additional premises cannot be added once the contract is signed). Mind you, for 2 or more premises, I understand that "private fibre" is usually a better deal than "FTTP on demand".