Anyone able to help with Lamberhurst (NDLAM) Cab 3 info?

Hi everyone, just wondering if anyone can give me any hope at all that we'll get FTTC/P at any point this year?

Last time you could see a date, OpenReach said it'd be ready end of Dec-14 (after new cab was installed and road dug up to get power to it, I assume). Obviously OR don't give dates anymore

I've used CodeLook but am confused by it and not sure exactly what it's telling me:

Fibre: FTTC or FTTP 30th June 2015

Cabinet P2 FTTP Planned Phase BDUK East Sussex 14b
Cabinet P3 FTTC Planned (exchange ready 22nd May 2014) Phase BDUK Kent 13a

So my interpretation of this is that the Exchange is all setup (nearly a year ago) and either C2 OR C3 is going to get something in June. As each cab seems to be run by a different councils scheme it seems impossible to find out which one is going to get fibre.

KCC is totally useless, their "Make Kent Quicker" website is a total joke with no updates at all on what is going on.

Not sure if there are other tools out there that give a little more info, but if anyone has access to one, I'd really appreciate some insider knowledge!

Many thanks,
S

PS Just tried to be clever and try the East Sussex website - and that seems worse than kent with just the following:

Phase 7

This is the eSussex view of your status based on your postcode:

Good news, your postcode is provisionally covered by phase 7 of our intervention project. This could mean that work will be completed by end of March 2016, but this is all subject to change.

All information displayed has come from the Kent County Council Site.

Cabinet 2 is being worked on now as far as I can see and should be live in the next few months.

Work has already started in your area and services, available from Call Flow Solutions, should be live in the next few months

Cabinet 3 all I can find is the following:

Given the project size, it is not possible to plan every area at the same time, so some areas will be planned and enabled before others. Your area is planned for Phase 4 and work should start between Oct-14 and Mar-15.

This date seems to have been and gone, so there must of been some issues.

Hope that helps.

Paul

To understand it you need to realise that the exchange side might (not the might) be all ready but none of the cabinet areas actually live.

Cabinet 2 is falling under the East Sussex project, so they will get sent the bill by BT and Cabinet 3 is falling under Kent.

Cabinet 2 looked set to get FTTP, which takes longer to install, or plans may change and FTTC used depending on the final surveys and cost analysis.

It is entirely possible the road digging was to put some ducting in and nothing to do with power, and unless the Kent project is willing to find out what the delay is then not much more can be done. i.e. its public money and they are meant to provide information.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.096838,0.388036,3a... appears to be cab 3

http://roadworks.org has some works to install a footway box and spline fibre work at the junction of the A21 and Bewlbridge Lane and is in the foot print cab 2 area, my guess being part of the FTTP roll-out towards Kilndown

East Sussex website has been useful in some cases. Their Roll out table can be helpful. There post code checker though is rubbish, they haven't updated it in about 4 months and it only tells you about the exchange progress, not the cabinet.

If you want, you can visit my new thread (havent posted anything yet) with news on cabs around the south east. I can include news on Cab 2 & 3 if you want and also you can follow MrSaffron's PDF on live cabinets every week.

Thanks for the extra details gents, appears I'll just have to wait and see what happens then as KCC aren't forthcoming with information at all.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.096838,0.388036,3a... appears to be cab 3

This is actually Cab 2 - Cab 3 is here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.100068,0.391654,3a... the sister box has gone up at the other end of the fence to the right. FYI this is directly opposite the exchange!

In reply to a post by FredTheB:

If you want, you can visit my new thread (havent posted anything yet) with news on cabs around the south east. I can include news on Cab 2 & 3 if you want and also you can follow MrSaffron's PDF on live cabinets every week.

Thank you that would be great - I'm already checking the weekly live cabinets by MrSaffron just on the off chance I might see some light - but I'm assuming not.

What is really strange about the KCC website is when you do a Postcode check it says the following:

In addition, superfast broadband is already available to some premises in your area from the infrastructure providers listed below. If you are covered by these operators, you will need to contact your ISP to upgrade your service.

BT Openreach

Yet I cannot find anyone in the village that has it!

Doh! on pasting wrong link in.

On the KCC saying its available to some people, well not on that exchange yet. Depends on what they mean by area - I know some have done things like say 'available in area and area means ME1 which will of course cover multiple exchanges, when you entered ME1 1AA

At least I don't have to be jealous that others, locally, can get it and I can't! I'm hoping I'll get a good connection when it does come through as I get pretty much the full 8Mbits of the standard ADSL service.

To be honest, download I'm not that fussed about, it's the upload that gets me - I work from home and every time I share my screen my VOIP connection just halts and no one hears me. Not great really.

Thanks for the info once again, at least I know I'm not going mad trying to find something out that just isn't available out there. It's a shame that the June 2015 date doesn't really make it clear if it's the FTTP for Sussex being enabled or the FTTC for Kent - but from your comments about roadworks near Kilndown I assume the former (and they need it more than me, average speed there is 1-2Mbits).

Just an update, they've been clearing ducts at the north end of the village recently, and I believe there is planned duct work towards Bells Yew Green/Frant too so I'm guessing fibre is on it's way into the village at some point.

Cabinet 3 seems to serve the vast majority of premises in the village so it'd be a safe assumption that'll be the first to enabled, I'm on cabinet 2 up near the exchange itself... fingers crossed we see that upgraded soon, it's looking pretty old and sad at the moment!

I've noticed some extra vans around recently - but I thought they were more at the South end of the village

CodeLook says this currently: "FTTC or FTTP 30th June 2015"

And looking at the other information it suggests that Cab 2 (near the green) is for remote properties which should be getting FTTP as part of the East Sussex BDUK project and Cab 3 (opposite the parish office and exchange) provides connection to the majority of the main village which should get FTTC as part of the KCC BDUK project.

Which Cab is going live in two weeks (if at all), I have no clue. But as you say, there is planned work in July out to the west of the village (so I assume Cab 2) but nothing has come up about work actually within the village yet.

I hope the date is accurate but assume it's not. Will be a shame if FTTP comes first to people further away from the village - but I guess that's just me being a little jealous (on both counts of getting it first and getting FTTP).

So just went through the village today and saw OR right outside the Fibre Cab - just checked RoadWorks and this has now come up:

LAMBERHURST - PCP3 - 281796 - BDUK - BLOCKAGES - 3 DAYS:BLOCKAGES - Excavate onto BT ducts to clear duct blockage

Assume this means when they had the planned work back in November 2014 to install the power, they couldn't because of a blocked duct and now they are cleaning it out… guess we'll have another 7 month wait to get the power guys back to power up the cab…. 30th June date on CodeLook seems a little unlikely for FTTC so maybe the FTTP people outside the village might get lucky on the 30th?

Blocked ducts are likely to be linked to Openreach's own cable/fibre ducts and not the power connection.

The back to front working by Openreach in some instances results in permits being raised first for civil works to blow the fibre down the ducts (nil excavation works in general), then they find multiple blockages on the route (across one or more roads), then they raise further permits for excavation works to un-block/lay new ducting for the same route.

Openreach permitting could be made far more simpler if they raised the original permit for excavation works as then if they don't need to dig down the permit can be closed as nil excavation. If they raise it as nil excavation first, there system doesn't appear to allow them to then add excavation works to the same permit.

Edited by deleted (Mon 22-Jun-15 21:05:08)

Thanks for the info Yaz - I went down to chat to the guys but they finished 2 days early and it was definitely OR that was doing the work.

So according to CodeLook we should be getting FTTP or FTTC tomorrow - I wonder what the chances of this are? I hope we do, but don't think it'll be then so won't be too upset when it doesn't happen.

Fibre: FTTC or FTTP 30th June 2015

In reply to a post by SCollins:

Thanks for the info Yaz - I went down to chat to the guys but they finished 2 days early and it was definitely OR that was doing the work.

So according to CodeLook we should be getting FTTP or FTTC tomorrow - I wonder what the chances of this are? I hope we do, but don't think it'll be then so won't be too upset when it doesn't happen.

Fibre: FTTC or FTTP 30th June 2015

I think that "Fibre: FTTC or FTTP 30th June 2015" means that your exchange will be upgraded then not your cabinet.

If your cabinet was almost ready it would/should give an availability date on the BT DSL Checker.

Paul

But looks like the exchange has already been done according to CodeLook:

FTTC Planned (exchange ready 22nd May 2014)

In reply to a post by SCollins:

But looks like the exchange has already been done according to CodeLook:

FTTC Planned (exchange ready 22nd May 2014)

Not according to SamKnows granted SamKnows has been wrong loads of times but so has CodeLook.

Just that both sites are known to be not always correct and one says the exchange has been done and the other says it hasn't.

Paul

Well I won't be counting my chickens quite yet then….

FYI BDUK cabs tend not to a date for availability on https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html they just appear.

Probably going to miss the 30th, but if the workers are done then it should be soon.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

FYI BDUK cabs tend not to a date for availability on https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html they just appear.

Probably going to miss the 30th, but if the workers are done then it should be soon.

Ah, well I never knew that, something new learnt

Well as far as I can see after some tests is the following:

BT Wholesale Exchange Information.

• Exchange Name: Lamberhurst
• Exchange Code: NDLAM
• County: Kent

• Cabinet: EO
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 0
  • ADSLx: 4
  • None: 0
  
  
• Cabinet: 2
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 0
  • ADSLx: 575
  • None: 0
  
  
• Cabinet: 3
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 0
  • ADSLx: 449
  • None: 0
  
  
• � Detected 8 Issues.

All above information is correct at time of 19:30 29-Jun-2015.

� Detected Issues could be stuff like:
Your address has been successfully matched; however we cannot determine ADSL availability at this address. Please try the Telephone Number or Postcode Checker.

Seems only 4 EO Lines left and the rest all have ADSLx.

Paul

Edited by PaulKirby (Mon 29-Jun-15 19:36:31)

This morning, there were contractors doing something with what I assume was fibre (black with a yellow stripe - I drove past very slowly to have a good nose) at cabinet 2. The BT ground access panels in the road were up, adjacent to the cabinet. Someone's also recently strimmed the grass/bushes near to the cabinet but that's probably just a coincidence. I assumed they would normally upgrade/add another cabinet first before running the fibre so maybe this is nothing to do with BDUK.

They were also doing stuff further down the hill from the exchange towards cabinet 3 (which externally appears to be upgraded already and has done for a while - not sure when it was done (I only moved back to the village last December).

Looks like things are still progressing in the right direction!

I too passed the work near Cab 2 today - does FTTP require the sister fibre cabinet?

I wonder if they are doing the work planned for next week a little earlier?

6th - 13th July:

LAMBERHURST - 301870 - BDUK - BDUK - BUILD JOINT BOX & DUCT- CIVILSTo build new JUF 106 joint box and lay approx 2m of Duct 54 in Verge

Cab 3's sister cabinet went up in October last year but no sounds are coming from it yet so definitely not active. All dates on other sites have gone now, so no clues as to what's going on - also Roadworks seems to have stopped you looking at advanced planning (when trying to do the filters I cannot select different time-periods anymore). Fingers crossed that it won't be long as Andrew hinted might be the case after the work a few weeks back.

does FTTP require the sister fibre cabinet?

Nope, no cabinet, or connection through one in any way for FTTP.

Another update from RoadWorks…. am thinking this is the final piece of the pie?!

27th-29th July 2015:

LAMBERHURST - PCP3 - 313209 - BDUK - BDUK - DUCT OVERLAYS - CIVILSOverlay - Lay approx 23m of Duct 54 in FW to link existing BT Boxes to facilitate spine cabling works.

History seems to be something like:

May 2014 - Enable exchange
Nov 2014 - Install fibre cab
Jan 2015 - Install power
Feb 2015 - Attempt to lay cables
July 2015 - Clear blocked ducts
July 2015 - Attempt to lay cables
?????? "Spine cabling works" what ever this means

Looks like it, for cabinet 3 anyway.

Not sure what's going on for us folk on PCP2 - hopefully something will happen soon but I'm very confused as I saw Codelook referring to PCP2 being in Kilndown village.
It's definitely not, but it seems Kilndown doesn't have a cabinet of it's own and is somehow served by PCP2.

https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=1... - weird!

I am also connected to the Lamberhurst exchange, though I have no idea how I would know whether it is Cabinet P2 or P3?

I am actually located directly off of the A21 in Lamberhurst Quarter.

Codelook now provides this update:

Fibre: FTTC or FTTP 30th September 2015

Fingers crossed, the broadband has become noticeably worse in the last 6 months, which has prompted me to look again at other options but they seem very thin on the ground .

Mobile reception is decent but plan options on all the Mobile operators are quite limited if intending to use a mobile data plan as a replacement for home broadband.

If anyone has any further updates, please let me know, I will follow this with interest and keep my fingers crossed.

I'm pretty sure you'll be on P3 - P2 is effectively (with a few exceptions) everything south, east and west of The Down and Kilndown. I think if you look at the list of post codes on Codelook, it should reflect this.
Codelook has a few things wrong (it lists P2 as being in Kilndown, when it's actually just up the road from the exchange, just before the road that runs past the vineyard.

Looks like only P3 will be getting FTTC (despite there actually being more properties on P2, although I imagine Kilndown are a fair chunk of those). Some of us folk on P2 should be getting FTTP but I'm not holding my breath it'll be any time soon at all - for some reason it's part of East Sussex's BDUK rollout and not Kent.

There's a flurry of Openreach activity going on in the village itself at the moment, duct clearing/duct work I think currently. I should imagine the September prediction is quite plausible!

I've done a bit of digging around and it looks like ONLY cabinet 3 is getting any kind of fibre. Due to CodeLook getting the location of cabinet 2 wrong, it seems to think that FTTP is being delivered in Lamberhurst but I strongly suspect this isn't the case because...

CodeLook incorrectly places cabinet 2 in Kilndown village which IS having FTTP installed by Call Flow Solutions according to the Making Kent Quicker Project site.

The only discrepancy I can see is that CodeLook mentions "Phase BDUK East Sussex 14b" for cabinet 2, yet the Kilndown FTTP project seems to be a Kent thing... And that Lamberhurst is in Kent, not East Sussex. I can't find any data on when/what 14b is either!

I can assure you that Kilndown is not getting FTTP. It's got FTTC by call Flow to the East end of the village (talking Globe and Rainbow or beyond). The rest of us were supposed to get radio from Call Flow last September but the transmitter is currently St Mary's church in Goudhurst! If you can't get line of sight you've had it, if you can you get 6Mbps unless the weather is bad.

So those of us on Lamberhurst cabinet (thanks for letting me know it's Cab 2) are stuffed. So much for superfast roll out. Unless they bring fibre from Cab 2 to Kilndown which I find extremely unlikely.
I've wriiten to Call Flow about a radio relay on Kilndown Church, but dragging heels all round.

56K no, but 1.5 to 2Mbps yes...

Ahh I didn't know it was FTTC, I'd assumed since it was Call Flow (together with some possibly erroneous info in CodeLook regarding East Sussex BDUK) that it was FTTP.

As you say, you're probably stuffed regarding cabinet 2 and FTTC. Even if they decide to enable it, I imagine the distance is too much to make any decent improvement.

How did Call Flow get involved in the first place, was it a community effort?

I had no idea that Kilndown already had FTTC from another company and what a pain about the radio issue from Goudhurst.

This morning whilst on route to Sevenoaks I noticed that BTOR had the Fibre cabinet open and were doing work in it - I was in the car so didn't stop to ask anything but I guess this means Cab3 won't be too much longer (they definitely linked the two cabinets together last week - they had the pavement up between both and laid cables). Codelook says 30th September, maybe it'll be sooner if all the kit is being installed today? So just a case of testing for a few weeks then opening for orders?

Shame the install of equipment doesn't show up on Roadworks or other online databases as this would be useful for others.

I wonder if it already has the power supply connected but just isn't powered up... I'd like to think if they were going to run power into it, it would be done when the ground was already up, but perhaps that's expecting too much common sense!
I'll go have a listen tomorrow to see if the fans are running, they certainly weren't last Saturday when I walked past.

Well I just popped into the Post Office and had a listen - nothing that I could make out (but there was a car parked right next to it with the engine running - so wasn't ideal conditions).

Am guessing we'll see quite a few BTOR vans parked outside if over the coming weeks as it's so close and BT will want to start getting a ROI on the kit ASAP.

Thought that I'd just add that there still aren't any fans running in the cabinet. Had a walk past yesterday and it was deafly silent, unfortunately.

My cabinet was silent after it was installed,one day the lock turned silver and it was powered up, this was the same for another 2 cabinets in my neighborhood - every night i would walk the dog past it just to have a listen.

The 128 version is hard to hear, sounds like listening to the water going through the pipes at home, the 288 is much more noisy, and if it is quite in the street you can hear it without having your ear against it.

Thanks for the info - it's definitely a 288 cab so good to know it will be obvious when it's powered up.

At present it looks just like this: 288 Image - I assume the green bit that bulks out at the front is the thing that you mentioned turned silver? Didn't notice it was a lock per se.

How long after power-up did you get to being able to place an order?

I can only base it on ours, and others will comment that every cab is different, but in our case it was one week after power that I was able to order, and I walked past it every night so I know exactly,

Yes at the moment your lock in the middle will be completely green, on all the cabs in every village around me the middle part of that green lock has gone silver once they have been powered up.

There is a cab in a village near us that was installed way before mine, it is connected to the same exchange but it still isn't live, they have been doing the power, I think this is the second attempt, because a week ago a job appeared to to meet the power company at the cab, a hole was dug, the hole was filled, then again this week another job to meet the power company, this cab looked complete way before mine so you can never tell what needs doing.

You have the same cab as me, once it gets power you will know, they kick out more heat than i expected plus you can hear them clearly (as long as no cars are driving by).

Sounds very promising though fingers crossed you wont have a long wait, my fibre has just been installed today, I managed to speak to the guy at the cab and i was the first and at the moment only one on this cab

Thanks for this info - I've been keeping an eye out for this and yes, Lamburhurst up till yesterday didn't have the silver lock. And as of about 30 minutes ago it now does! Was driving past so didn't have a chance to listen to see if there is power. Fingers cross this was the last stage! If anything to go by your experience it could be next Thursday that we can order.

I just had a walk past the cabinet and YAY there is power and I can hear the fans running. So now it's just a waiting game, have a web-check running on the BT Wholesale checker every 15 minutes now so I can see when it'll become available.

Edited by deleted (Thu 17-Sep-15 20:02:33)

Brilliant news (for those on cabinet 3)!
Looks like that's it for FTTC in the village, wonder if WBC ADSL2+ will be enabled for the rest of us? it's annoying they skipped cabinet 2. I wish I understood the reasoning behind it all, we moved from Brenchley last year and you can't help but trip over enabled cabinets there now, despite there being way less residential properties.

In reply to a post by MilesPortent:

Looks like that's it for FTTC in the village, wonder if WBC ADSL2+ will be enabled for the rest of us?

Fibre on smaller exchanges is often run back to a nearby larger exchange. In that case, the installation of FTTx reduces the potential usage of WBC ADSL(2+), reducing the commercial incentive for BT Wholesale to install WBC compared to the pre fibre position.

The only exchanges that usually get WBC ADSL(2+) alongside fibre are those where the fibre handover is at the exchange. BT Wholesale's WBC network is present at every fibre handover node, so there is little extra expense involved in upgrading the exchange to WBC ADSL(2+) at the same time.

Yay! Just ordered fibre, told it will take up to 10 days for engineer to do work on exchange and will get a text when done to so a self install. Was told I should get 63Mb which is better than I was expecting as we're about 500m direct line from the cabinet. Upload was quoted at 10Mb shame as BT checker say I should get 20Mb - but still way better than the 488kb I get now.

As for Brenchley, they serve other villages (Horsmonden) so the exchange actually serves quite a few more properties than us - which is probably why they got it ages ago - higher ROI for BT.

Congratulations, so what was that 3 days in the end from power to being able to order?

Yes, exactly 3 days even over a weekend! Big thing to do is not listen for power but look out for the lock to be installed (silver). Will walk by and post a picture later today so people can see.

One of my Lamberhurst-based customers had their FTTC order activated a couple of days ago - for some reason an engineer visit was included (a good thing as the existing internal cabling was awful so he sorted it out) and I managed to have a good chat with him.
Amazingly (or perhaps not) they were only the 2nd "FTTC" customer on the cabinet. I'm surprised BT don't locally advertise more when a cabinet/exchange goes live - surely it's in their interest to do so. The parish magazine hasn't picked it up either!

If 'BT' advertises it is accused of being predatory, so down to the individual retailers.

Lots of cabinets have openreach stickers to highlight their presence and new service, plus if a BDUK project cab it is in the councils interest to promote. Where this has been down it is usually a few weeks after the cab has gone live though, i.e. the time it takes to do the PR involved.

Mine was activated yesterday (I was told I was the first to order, but guess that because I'm not with BT had a lower priority on the work done on the cabinet?). I'm SUPER happy with the service so far, was told the max I'd get was 62Mb DL and 10Mb UL. I'm getting the full 80/20 and I"m a good 450m as the crow flies from the cabinet (so was thinking about 600m as the wire is laid as a minimum).

Question for those with more experience… Is it likely that this speed will go down as more people use Fibre? It's great to get the full 80/20 when I was told 62/10 - but would hate to assume that I'll always get 80/20.

Think Broadband Speed Test Result

PS Guess there is some caching going on somewhere for the UL figures as the router says I'm syncing at 20.00Mbs

That is an impressive speed I think for that distance. My cable run is I believe about 600m and I get 45Mb down and 13Mb up.

Cross talk as other users come on line may well reduce your speeds - depends on how much noise margin you have available.

The speed test is explicitly coded to avoid caching, but cannot guarantee that with every combination of PC/browser/AV/router/ISP

http://tbb.st/1444144672245305255 is what another EE user gets on a short lines. The slow ramp up suggests maybe wireless or you have a PC that needs its RWIN tweaking perhaps, but if in everyday use everything is perfect temptation is to just enjoy it.

Mine was activated yesterday (I was told I was the first to order, but guess that because I'm not with BT had a lower priority on the work done on the cabinet?)

A complete untruth.

In reply to a post by SCollins:

I was told I was the first to order, but guess that because I'm not with BT had a lower priority on the work done on the cabinet?

Openreach are required to treat all customers equally. They are not allowed to prioritise work for other BT Group companies.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Mine was activated yesterday (I was told I was the first to order, but guess that because I'm not with BT had a lower priority on the work done on the cabinet?)

A complete untruth.

Well I did say guess Not that I care, just seems weird that someone was activated a couple of days before me and yet was told I was the first to order (within 10 minutes of the ADSL checker showing availability).

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

The speed test is explicitly coded to avoid caching, but cannot guarantee that with every combination of PC/browser/AV/router/ISP

http://tbb.st/1444144672245305255 is what another EE user gets on a short lines. The slow ramp up suggests maybe wireless or you have a PC that needs its RWIN tweaking perhaps, but if in everyday use everything is perfect temptation is to just enjoy it.

I'll just enjoy then Am on Ethernet directly to the router but am running a custom built PC running Mac OSX so could be something to do with that then. I'll just keep my fingers crossed the line stays stable for the next 10 days and this becomes the normal speed i get! For the distance though, it's great speed - must have decent, thick copper wires between here and the cab!

In reply to a post by SCollins:

Question for those with more experience� Is it likely that this speed will go down as more people use Fibre? It's great to get the full 80/20 when I was told 62/10 - but would hate to assume that I'll always get 80/20.

Yes, it is likely to drop over time. If you can see them, monitor the maximum attainable speeds, and the actual SNR value, and you'll likely see them drop too.

The BTW estimation range shows you two speeds for lines similar to yours; the lower value represents the 20th percentile (ie 20% go slower), while the upper figure represents the 80th percentile (so 20% go faster). You should expect a speed to drop down, over time, to within that zone.

Edit: My previous line was around 370m of copper. In 2012, it gave a maximum attainable of nearly 90Mbps; when we left there a year ago, actual speed was around 78Mbps.

If you are managing 80/20 on over 450m of copper, chances are that it is thicker than standard 0.5mm copper. That would extend the range somewhat.

Edited by deleted (Fri 09-Oct-15 17:03:48)

In reply to a post by David_W:

Openreach are required to treat all customers equally. They are not allowed to prioritise work for other BT Group companies.

I'm vaguely becoming aware that this isn't quite true... but I don't have the details of exactly how untrue it might be.

As far as I can make out, Openreach seem to be required to give different treatment to MPF circuits, compared to WLR ones. That would make for different treatment for LLU companies like Sky and TalkTalk.

As far as I can work out, all companies within the WLR category, do get treated under equivalence terms.

However, most textual references make it appear that the MPF circuits get an SLA agreed privately with the LLU company, so it is harder to figure out whether they get any better or worse service. However, some of the references make it look like MPF circuits do get prioritised over WLR.

I'm vague, because I can't find details. And none of the residential CP's want to tell you the SLA terms that they're working under.

My customer was getting about 20 down and 7 up but they are probably one of the furthest away connections on the cabinet so I was never expecting miracles - still vastly better than ADSL Max. For the record they use BT Business as their ISP.

I hope everyone at the bottom of the hill in Lamberhurst on cab 3 is enjoying their FTTC!!!, Has anyone unlucky enough to be on Cab 2 noticed a significant drop in speed? for the last month I have been unable to get over 0.80Mbps and as low as 0.23Mbps in the evenings. Never used to be that bad

adcad, yes it's been pathetic lately. Anyhow Cab2 seems to be on the back burner. I'm having an ongoing battle with the Executive complaints office of BT (originally via Openreach CEO). Try emailing the CEO '[email protected]'. You'll likely get passed onto BT claiming business separation but I got a 'free (Openreach!) engineer visit from BT - no issues found of course. Further I have submitted a request for a part community funded fibre link to Kilndown (supplied by Cab2) - again no response yet. Just got to keep banging on at them. They are a shambles I'm afraid.

I'm also on Cab 2 and had some speed issues a few weeks ago but seem to have returned to the 5 mbps mark now.

Near the crossroads on The Down (beside the phone box) I have noticed some fibre cable coiled up on the side of a pole (black with a yellow stripe) - not sure if this is related to anything ongoing (FTTP maybe?) but might take a few photos and see if the bods here have any idea what the score might be. Codelook shows cabinet 2 as "FTTP Planned"

Edited by deleted (Sat 02-Jan-16 23:08:11)