DLM on fibre to the home (FTTP/FTTH)

Hi,

I have an openreach modem on the wall and my BT Home Hub 5 is plugged into that, I have had rock solid connection and speeds since day one and I have had fibre to the premises for around 4-5 days.

May I ask what detriment there will be to turning off or unplugging the BT home hub 5, will DLM kick in and murder my speeds etc, should I wait longer? any information would be great on how this all works - many thanks.

Edited by deleted (Sun 31-May-15 12:36:36)

No dlm on the fttp since it always connects at the purchased speed

Oh wow that's pretty cool.thanks for the reply, so I literally don't need to worry about anything? I can plug in and unplug the BT homehub 5 as I feel?? is there anything I need to be wary of? I am brand new to this I have had ADSL for years and years, constantly worrying about sync speed, SNR, and all [censored] like that


I have done a lot of googling but there is just not that much info on fttp

Edited by deleted (Sun 31-May-15 12:59:36)

I wonder if there may be any problems akin to Mobile Phones, when they are not used for a longish period such as six months, the mobile number is "recovered" and passed on to another person?

Anything like that, to re-deploy the DLM circuit etc?

As Mr.S says, no DLM on FTTP based services. All will be well.

Eh?

From newspaper reports, some persons who have mobile phones "for emergencies" and who there fore make very few, if any, calls, have found that their phones have been removed from an active listing after six months non-use, then "cancelled after 12 months" so that the mobile number can be re-used with another mobile customer.

These reports have appeared with some frequency.

In that respect, nothing to do with broadband - but I wondered if anyone has encountered a similar (commercial) difficulty with broadband in the broad sense - that a specific ADSL or VDSL connection has been ceased because it had not been used for a substantial period.

I was talking about unplugging my hub and moving it to another socket not unplugging it for 6 months lol but anyway.

Which I have done and everything is still rock solid http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Fingers crossed everything stays strong

All in all 5 days in and I am over the moon with my new connection, if it remains this good of course.

Edited by deleted (Sun 31-May-15 16:16:24)

No.

Only way this happens with broadband is if you don't pay for it.

With mobiles this will relate to payg where a condition is to use phone every x days to retain number

I've had a number on Orange PAYG for well over a decade. Switched it on perhaps four or five times in that period.

Not only does it work, but the remaining credit is there. I get so many spam calls on it however that it is unusable, but I hang onto it for sentimental reasons. Mainly that I got it long before the initial 7 was inserted into the 0973 ...!

The only action Orange take is to close my online account for it, so if I want to check the balance I have to reopen it. I wonder if that confuses some people?

Oh, I've also got a Virgin PAYG sim that an idiot made me buy to get a particular phone over ten years ago. My O2 sim went straight in when I got home. The last time I checked that sim it still had most of its opening £10 credit available.

Edited by RobertoS (Sun 31-May-15 19:44:01)

O2 PAYG T&C require you to make a chargeable call every 6 months.
After than they they will disconnect it - and I certainly know that after some time beyond that period if not used they DO disconnect it

In reply to a post by zom22:

O2 PAYG T&C require you to make a chargeable call every 6 months.
After than they they will disconnect it - and I certainly know that after some time beyond that period if not used they DO disconnect it

Indeed they do, I had an O2 PAYG with a fantastic number that I wouldn't have minded keeping but lost it due to lack of use.

DLM exists for DSL technologies because carrying data down copper phone lines is essentially a bit of a hack. They were never designed to do that, and as such, the signal degrades with distance, quality of wiring, and a myriad of other things. DLM is designed to try to figure out the best speed that's still stable, using disconnections (among other things) to determine stability at different speeds.

On the other hand, FTTP was designed from the start to provide data access, and as such, the signal loss you experience, even at long distances, is comparatively tiny, so something like DLM just isn't needed.

Also, I'm writing all of this while stupidly jealous, and somehow the fact that you're not on one of the FTTP-only speeds (300Mbps) makes it worse .

Interesting what comes to light!

In reply to a post by Fenn:

I was talking about unplugging my hub and moving it to another socket not unplugging it for 6 months lol but anyway.

Which I have done and everything is still rock solid http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Fingers crossed everything stays strong

All in all 5 days in and I am over the moon with my new connection, if it remains this good of course.

How can you move it to another socket if you have FTTP?

You will have an Openreach ONT with the fibre cable coming in from the little box on the front of your house. Nothing is plugged into a "socket". Sounds like you have FTTC.

Edited by deleted (Mon 01-Jun-15 17:44:56)

can sound like anything you fancy but it's fttp

And you will find it IS plugged into a socket... a power socket.

With my gigantic cat5 I can go laaaaaaj mate

Edited by deleted (Mon 01-Jun-15 17:56:49)

FTTP / FTTH - No DLM.. You have the dream of every person on here lol.. Enjoy it!

In reply to a post by bowdon:

FTTP / FTTH - No DLM.. You have the dream of every person on here lol.. Enjoy it!

Yeah, if all goes well we should finally get our FTTP as well the start of July, granted its been 3.5 years waiting for BTOR to come back to finish off our install, is so annoying knowing and seeing all the hardware in the pit/chamber and up the pole for 3.5 years, and just no blown fibre.

So can hardly wait

Paul

In reply to a post by bowdon:

FTTP / FTTH - No DLM.. You have the dream of every person on here lol.. Enjoy it!

Not everyone. There are others of us with an FTTP connection.

It's a shame I can't afford the extra £14/month for 200mb but it's an 18month contract and money is really tight at the moment, I would have liked to try it though - just for the hell of it!

I had an 0973 number, too. <cough>FSMSC</cough>