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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 27-Jan-16 18:44:34
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Re: DLM profiles + questions


[re: tommy45] [link to this post]
 
I think the later version has the later driver blob and the webgui one has VLAN 1.301 disabled.
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Wed 27-Jan-16 20:36:33
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Re: DLM profiles + questions


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I may give it a whirl sometime then , never know may see a slight improvement ,but i doubt it
Standard User Leki
(member) Wed 27-Jan-16 20:56:49
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Re: DLM profiles + questions


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Thanks everyone for the replies.

My Huawei modem isn't unlocked but I may go and do that now. Can I check what firmware it is on currently without it being unlocked?

My questions about G.INP were mainly if ISP's had access to turn it off, or if they have any access to tweak the connections on fibre like you could on ADSL. I hate the DLM on fibre as it has only caused problems for me in the past and taken months to restore my connection speeds after a line fault etc. It would be great if BT allowed ISPs more control to disable DLM and tweak settings manually but I don't think BT care about that.

My main problem is I've synced at 80mbps for over 2 years when I was with talktalk and zen and they day G.INP was enabled my connection went bad and I synced at 60mpbs and has never got better. My estimated line downspeed is around 60mbps for my line though so my ISP or BT don't care about the 20mbps loss since they say i shouldn't have been able to get 80mbps anyway.

So I'm wondering if there is anything to do to get the 20mbps back and was thinking since G.INP started all the problems getting rid of it would help.....but maybe using the newer unlocked firmware for my modem could help if it supports G.INP better?


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 27-Jan-16 23:41:28
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Re: DLM profiles + questions


[re: Leki] [link to this post]
 
IIRC that big drop is what happened to everyone with ECI modems on a Huawei cabinet. Originally G.INP was on both downstream and upstream, as tommy, BatBoy and I have been discussing. Then OR withdrew it completely for a short time while they semi-sorted the ECI mess.

They then reintroduced it on downstream only and some say the ECI also received a firmware upgrade sent out online. Maybe yours didn't get that and your line may have been banded. It's quite a fog-bound chain of events! (That's being polite). Or maybe the reintroduction was after you swapped over.

No you can't see a thing with the locked HG612. I haven't got the link for the unlocked software version I'm using at the moment, and Tommy's is the one before. I expect someone else will pop up with it soon - I have a very busy day tomorrow as not done my tax return yet!

Possibly the version in yours is already non-G.INP. The fact that the ECI screwed your line up doesn't men to say that a G.INP HG612 wouldn't fix it, but it's almost certain in my mind that a non-G.INP HG612 wouldn't.

So your problem might not be being unable to turn it off, but just a need to update to use it.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 28-Jan-16 09:44:26
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Re: DLM profiles + questions


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
So your current state is "xdslcmd start --phyReXmt 0x01" - up off / down on
Standard User Leki
(member) Mon 01-Feb-16 23:37:40
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
OK well finally got round to unlocking my modem.

My speed are currently the same but here are the stats:

# xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 21207 Kbps, Downstream rate = 62400 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 63025 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate: 21207 kbps 62400 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power: 6.6 dBm 13.4 dBm
====================================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 U4 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 3.8 19.6 30.0 N/A N/A 10.7 24.8 37.5
Signal Attenuation(dB): 3.8 18.8 29.0 N/A N/A 14.0 24.7 37.5
SNR Margin(dB): 6.4 6.7 6.7 N/A N/A 6.3 6.3 6.3
TX Power(dBm): -5.7 -23.8 6.4 N/A N/A 10.3 7.9 6.9






# xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 21151 Kbps, Downstream rate = 62400 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 63025 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.3 6.8
Attn(dB): 15.7 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.4 6.6
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 243 237
M: 1 1
T: 0 42
R: 10 16
S: 0.1233 0.3781
L: 16483 5374
D: 8 1
I: 254 127
N: 254 254
Q: 8 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 51 0
TxQueue: 17 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 17 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 154 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 6.4000 0.0000
L: 40 0
D: 3 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 939634
OHFErr: 0 7
RS: 120523512 792507
RSCorr: 339 12
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 232217 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 2321556 0
RSCorr: 5 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 61210 0
rtx_c: 22 0
rtx_uc: 0 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 0 0
minEFTR: 63019 0
errFreeBits: 3584551 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 452052087 0
Data Cells: 2111664 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 6
SES: 0 0
UAS: 1899 1899
AS: 3730

Bearer 0
INP: 49.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 3.98
OR: 0.01 64.22
AgR: 63089.80 20063.54

Bearer 1
INP: 4.50 0.00
INPRein: 4.50 0.00
delay: 3 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 79.68 0.01
AgR: 79.68 0.01

Bitswap: 2909/2909 8/8

Total time = 1 hours 33 min 49 sec
FEC: 339 12
CRC: 0 7
ES: 0 6
SES: 0 0
UAS: 1899 1899
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 49 sec
FEC: 24 6
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 78 3
CRC: 0 3
ES: 0 2
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 1 hours 33 min 49 sec
FEC: 339 12
CRC: 0 7
ES: 0 6
SES: 0 0
UAS: 1899 1899
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 1 hours 2 min 9 sec
FEC: 339 12
CRC: 0 7
ES: 0 6
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 02-Feb-16 00:02:47
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Re: DLM profiles + questions


[re: Leki] [link to this post]
 
I can't see how your connection ever delivered a sync of 80000. I can see it may be capped a bit by DLM but the max attainable rate seems a realistic target, even though you're currently syncing higher than that with SNR margin to spare.
Standard User Leki
(member) Wed 03-Feb-16 17:12:31
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
I can't see how your connection ever delivered a sync of 80000. I can see it may be capped a bit by DLM but the max attainable rate seems a realistic target, even though you're currently syncing higher than that with SNR margin to spare.


It was though smile...fast and stable for over 2 years with TalkTalk and Zen, here is my line stats from Zen members area:
http://i.imgur.com/z6Tf68u.png

Of course that ended in March 2015 when G.INP was added to my line/cab frown

I'm with Plusnet now and wondering if there is anything I can do restore my connection to its former glory?

Edited by Leki (Wed 03-Feb-16 17:14:35)

Standard User gt94sss2
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 03-Feb-16 17:42:29
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[re: Leki] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Leki:
It was though smile...fast and stable for over 2 years with TalkTalk and Zen, here is my line stats from Zen members area:
http://i.imgur.com/z6Tf68u.png

Of course that ended in March 2015 when G.INP was added to my line/cab frown


Do you know when/how long before G.INP was added to your line, you last sync'ed?

You would reasonably expect crosstalk to appear after two years with your line syncing at a lower level (as originally estimated)

As such, I suspect the introduction of G.INP didn't cause your problems as such - the resync itself did.

Most report an increase in line speeds if its only down to the introduction of G.INP.

You may have to wait for vectoring to see if that improves things. An ISP cant control whether G.INP is applied to your line.

Edited by gt94sss2 (Wed 03-Feb-16 17:48:42)

Standard User Leki
(member) Wed 03-Feb-16 17:59:23
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[re: gt94sss2] [link to this post]
 
@gt94sss2

Well it never resynced from when it was first connected to zen in that screenshot, the next entry/resync was when G.INP was applied and i had a ECI modem on a huawei cab which of course caused all the problems with slower speeds and higher ping. About a week after i swapped my modem with a friends space huawei modem and my sync increased a little and my ping went back to normal but download speeds never went back to what they used to be.

Edited by Leki (Wed 03-Feb-16 18:00:45)

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